Is it inevitable that Fuwa-chan will be criticized? The reason why Japanese people “truly” don’t approve of celebrities who speak informally.

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0001Green onion udon★.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:12:13.50ID:HiF1U3Mx9
The issue of Fuwa-chan’s abusive posts against Yasuko on x led to her suspending her entertainment activities. After a huge uproar, Yasuko apologized directly, and it seemed that she was deeply hurt and saddened, but she never showed any intention of fighting from the beginning, and it can be said that the matter has been brought to a resolution for the time being. This post caused a huge outrage because it exceeded the “tolerance” of many more people than Yasuko. Things that had been tolerated up until now, such as casual speech, calling people by their first names, and being rude, have all suddenly turned against them with just one post. A character who uses casual language, which is considered “heretical” in Japanese society. He also uses casual language and calls Takeshi, Sanma, and Tetsuko Kuroyanagi by their first names. Broadly speaking, older duos like Tunnels and Downtown might also fall into this category, but in the entertainment industry, which is often obsessed with hierarchy in terms of years of experience and rank, characters who speak in a casual manner are an anomaly. Of course, there are some people who dislike it, find it rude, or find it difficult to deal with. Because he is an unorthodox person, his closeness makes him a kind of rare animal that piques people’s interest, and once that happens, his forthright way of speaking also leads to more and more liking for him, with people saying things like, “He’s quick-witted,” “He can actually read the mood,” “He’s cheerful,” “He’s fun,” “He’s stylish,” and so on. In Japan, a society that basically relies on polite language, characters who speak in a casual manner could be considered rude, but I think that this is largely tolerated because of their attributes. Fuwa-chan was also accepted as an “outcast.” In Fuwa-chan’s case, it seems that viewers have digested and transformed her attributes, such as “she’s a YouTuber (not a celebrity or comedian)” and “she’s a returnee,” and accepted them on their own. Being good friends with Rino Sashihara also likely had a positive effect on her gaining recognition and popularity among viewers. There is a big gap starting from a negative image. It’s like the guy you thought was a delinquent turns out to be really kind. If that happens, his popularity among the general public will soar. Not only in comedy variety shows, but also in news-based information variety shows, casual speaking characters were accepted as being able to express their opinions without hesitation. However, once popularity has risen rapidly, it can also quickly fall back down. What is known as a “flip-flop” occurs. “I thought she was a nice girl,” “I liked her,” “She was just a fabricated character.” As mentioned earlier, female celebrities who talk in a casual manner are not a sudden sudden appearance like Fuwa-chan, and are not that rare. Just thinking about it…
Lola, Mizusawa Allie, Mori Izumi, Darenogare Akemi, Kinoshita Yukina…It’s interesting that there are quite a few people who have been criticized and then changed their minds. It seems that the aforementioned “attributes” of these casually speaking female characters in the entertainment industry can be divided into several categories. ・Half, quarter category
・Returnee category
・Celebrity category
・Gal category
・Natural/silly category
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フワちゃん炎上は必然か。“タメ口”タレントを日本人が「本心では」認めていない理由 | 日刊SPA!
芸能活動休止という事態を招くに至った、フワちゃんのやす子に対するXでの暴言投稿問題。大炎上の末、当人の直接謝罪、当のやす子も深く傷き悲しんでいたようだったが争う姿勢は最初からなく、一応この件について…
0003Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:13:43.86ID:w0RibV1Y0
Come to think of it, there aren’t any male characters who talk casually.
0057Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:23:23.28ID:eJlO5j9B0
>>3
Demon Kakka has been calling Tamori by his first name since his debut lol.
0062Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:23:55.15ID:++0vdyYR0
>>3
How about Bobby Ologun?
0077Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:25:12.63ID:MB4oV5Bb0(1/3)
>>3
There are apparently some young people who have just entered the industry, but they are either retrained or kicked out.
Yusuke Uechika tends to talk casually to people who are older than him, but it doesn’t seem like he would do that with big names.
0004Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:14:12.63ID:TF2bRoVO0(1/2)
It depends on the country.
0005Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:14:13.11ID:QY5PQYWO0
Demon Kogure is also a popular personality, but he hasn’t been rejected.
0010Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:15:01.87ID:e8d4ybtM0(2/3)
>>5
He’s 1 billion 60 years old, so he’s probably younger than you.
0040Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:19:48.05ID:MrQSAYFM0
>>5
His Excellency is clever in that he uses honorific language and titles, and calls people “Lady” instead of “Grandma.”
0069Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:24:26.62ID:Zypa/C8j0
>>5
Demon Kakka is so considerate in his speech that when the NHK announcer called her “grandmother,” he reprimanded her by saying “it would be better to say lady.”
0006Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:14:19.32ID:e8d4ybtM0(1/3)
When creating a character, I think everyone will be happier with something like Korinboshi rather than a character who speaks casually.
0007Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:14:26.32ID:n4rclnGj0
At the apology press conference, it was revealed that Bobby Ologun could speak normal, proper Japanese.
0008Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:14:27.48ID:oWdpnDTA0
People who feel uneasy if their age or title doesn’t guarantee them absolute safety without being threatened by younger or subordinate people will probably dislike characters who talk casually.
0009Security guard [lv.19].Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:14:31.94ID:PljcZ1ek0
I always end up becoming Fur-chan and getting laughed at. Is there any trick to saying it well?
0015Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:15:44.81ID:X10OFcuP0
>>9
There’s no need to say it correctly.
0092Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:26:33.60ID:FRN2QLV60(1/2)
>>9
She insists that because she’s a returnee, it’s fwa, not fuwa.
0012Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:15:21.81ID:M8WOArCb0
I don’t think anyone thought Fuwa-chan was actually a good person lol

I just realized that this is the kind of person he is after all.

0013Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:15:29.84ID:z3//gcke0
I also get sent off shopping by younger people at work who speak to me in a casual manner.
0014Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:15:35.83ID:hH1D8QY40
Although Horimai, the gold medalist in skateboarding, doesn’t speak in a casual manner, he doesn’t use honorific language either, so I’m sure many older people find his way of speaking to be an annoyance.
0085Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:25:54.59ID:0QIscyes0
>>14
You’re being made fun of by people your age because you can’t speak Japanese properly.
If you don’t feel that way, then you’re also a member of the intellectually inferior class.
0016Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:15:46.15ID:XlUqBmSd0
Japan is a stupid nation, getting angry and trying to dominate others with honorific language. Everyone would be happier without honorific language. Stupid people lol.
0018Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:16:13.13ID:M8QTJUin0
I’m sure he thinks he can get away with speaking casually forever. There’s no way a senior at work who’s more than 10 years younger than him will ignore it forever, you idiot.
0032Security Guard [lv.26].Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:18:35.88ID:J8sxixMf0
>>18
I can imagine how often your seniors scold you for your poor Japanese in the first line, so your opinion is persuasive.
0019Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:16:23.64ID:RCzL/LnG0
Laura is memorable.
0021Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:16:40.23ID:PSQv1/pC0
Miguel: “She’s weak…Fuwa has no backbone as a celebrity.”
0022Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:16:49.29ID:FiNrPJYA0
I’ve never been impressed by celebrities who get popular by being told they’re stupid but have a quick mind. That’s a dubious compliment.
0023Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:17:00.41ID:e8d4ybtM0(3/3)
I like Takizawa Karen. I don’t remember if she used casual language though.
0047Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:21:57.77ID:vg5Q1vry0(1/3)
>>23
The phrasing is unique, but it’s basically polite language.
0025Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:17:11.64ID:nw1Dmhq30
Japanese people who speak casually, other than foreigners or returnees, are generally rude.
0026Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:17:21.24ID:gFudUQia0
It seems that Fuwa-chan herself gets angry when people younger than her speak to her in a casual manner.
0034Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:19:01.69ID:SHj2M9Wp0
>>26
Yeah, that’s a double standard.
0106Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:28:16.91ID:87fovXmN0
>>26
He goes into his seniors’ dressing rooms and films himself, but gets angry when regular people take his picture.
0027Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:17:22.15ID:SvlxVyJK0
Machaaki: “I thought about hitting him but held back.”
0074Security Guard [lv.7] [Sprout].Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:25:01.62ID:hs5YOFFP0
>>27
As expected from Machaaki, Mr. Hidden Talent!!!
0028Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:18:11.96ID:z/BvJxG90
No, I’m not saying it in a casual manner, but it’s not right for a celebrity to tell someone on social media to “die”…
0029Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:18:13.35ID:a/lD2d7h0
Maybe parents today don’t think about things they don’t want their kids to see. The number of monstrous kids is going to increase dramatically.
0030Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:18:33.26ID:NwXL1v500
I don’t think the reason for the outrage was the casual language…
0031Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:18:33.41ID:dWNH5P+B0(1/6)
Even if someone is an honest and polite character, if they post something like “please die,” it’s going to cause an uproar.
0033Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:18:52.58ID:4hVbk4/+0
Utada Hikaru also speaks in a casual manner.
0035Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:19:06.28ID:cCF/JheM0(1/2)
It would have been better if I had no concept of honorific language and spoke casually in every situation, but now it’s obvious that I have to use honorific language when I need to protect myself lol.
0036Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:19:13.26ID:DXm9cN5P0(1/3)
I was surprised that there was such a high reaction rate. I think the majority of people found it unpleasant and creepy.
0037Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:19:15.35ID:eMkZuFY50
Your humanity shows on your face.
0046Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:21:03.29ID:kpfkPYAI0
>>37
Lord Demon…
Oh, he was a demon.
0038Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:19:38.66ID:ppJJRL900
You can’t communicate unless you first determine which is up and which is down.
0039Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:19:44.79ID:kJwoG7Xk0
In that respect, Ano-chan is smart.
0042Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:20:01.03ID:GrK6NKw10
If you have talent it’s a different story.
0060Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:23:37.91ID:OPNaHXvt0(1/3)
>>42
That’s right.
0043Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:20:17.73ID:kszs8sbG0
People who have been abroad for a long time are generally tolerated.
0044Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:20:25.39ID:EDb5UOxB0
Makino, stop speaking so casually.
0045Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:21:02.00ID:dWNH5P+B0(2/6)
Even though he’s usually a rude character, he can speak properly and seriously when he wants to, so I thought he had manners and respect. Japanese people like that kind of gap. Personally, I think it’s a shame.
0048Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:22:03.43ID:h6Xk2pt10
Laura is alive because Tetsuko forgave her.
0051Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:22:16.15ID:pBn32bTJ0
I don’t want anyone to speak in a casual manner.
0053Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:22:45.12ID:iQsCX0cj0(2/2)
It will only become an unnecessary spark.
0055Anonymous @I’m sorry.Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:22:52.76ID:YuHDKUjG0
If you’re a working adult, you should use honorific language regardless of age.
0067Security Guard [lv.9] [Sprout].Aug. 14, 2024 (Wed) 11:24:18.69ID:AwP04uCx0
I don’t know if they are returnees or what, but I think they would have been taught honorific language in the process of learning Japanese.
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