[EV] Electric vehicles are stalling worldwide, with sales not commensurate with huge investments, leading Mercedes and Volvo to abandon plans.

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0001paradise★.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:47:51.61ID:cemVBPVe9
The “EV (electric vehicle) stall” is shaking up major automakers around the world. German automaker Mercedes-Benz has withdrawn its plan to go all-electric by 2030. Sweden’s Volvo Car, which had also pledged to make all new cars EVs by 2030, has also been forced to abandon the plan. General Motors has frozen EV investments at its Michigan factory for two years. Ford Motor has canceled development of an EV model of a large SUV. According to a source at an affiliated parts manufacturer, Toyota Motor Corp. has also revised down its global EV production target from 1.5 million units in 2026 to 1 million units. The company that shocked industry insiders the most was Volkswagen (VW). The company is “considering” closing some of its production facilities in Germany, which would be the first time since the company was founded in 1937. They are even prepared to “terminate” employment guarantee contracts for employees until the end of 2029. Since its diesel engine fuel economy fraud scandal came to light, VW has been shifting its focus solely to EVs. The government also announced plans to allocate over 14 trillion yen (89 billion euros), or 60% of its total investment over the next five years, to EV-related areas in 2021. However, the company has not been able to achieve sales results that justified the huge investment, and has been forced to cut costs. The company operates six vehicle factories and four parts factories in Germany, employing 130,000 people. It has been said that “at least one factory each” will be closed, and there is local talk that “VW brand car factories will be targeted,” as they are relatively less profitable than the subsidiary brands Porsche and Audi. Naturally, the union is strongly opposed. Meanwhile, major companies are watching Honda’s moves with bated breath. This is because the company still maintains the slogan of “100% EV/FCV (fuel cell vehicle) rate by 2040.” To achieve this goal, in May of this year the company announced plans to invest a cumulative 10 trillion yen in EV and software development from fiscal 2021 through fiscal 2030. However, Honda’s research and development expenses have already ballooned to a level that exceeds the operating cash flow it generates in the fiscal year ending March 2024. “How long can they endure such a heavy financial burden?” (Toyota official) Market participants are worried that if they are unable to recoup their losses through cash inflows from expanded sales, “they will eventually reach a dead end.”

世界の自動車大手を揺さぶる「EV失速」巨額投資に見合う販売実績なし - ライブドアニュース
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0003Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:48:49.96ID:zQQVyVMc0(1/6)
Return to clean diesel.
0020Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:53:03.49ID:5Wn8IBhs0
>>3
So true.
0004Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:49:34.32ID:ssnU9fnA0
Toyota: “That’s what I said.”
0005Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:49:51.49ID:JiJAPMmK0
Is Mazda coming?
0006Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:49:52.60ID:8JiS98dz0(1/2)
Will Honda, which has let go of its entire engine division and engineers, be able to survive this crisis?
0105Security guard [lv.21].Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 12:06:12.39ID:chdHAFHd0
>>6
Mazda has a lot of unsuitable new engines, so they should merge.
I’d like to drive something like a Freed Skyactiv-d.
A 6-cylinder 3.3-liter diesel engine for the underpowered Freed.
A 4-cylinder 2.5-liter gasoline engine for the Vezel.
0007Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:50:10.01ID:nQYywvp50
Let’s keep going and get the diesel fuel going.
0009Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:50:44.95ID:kXzYafpt0
EV fanatic lol.
0010Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:50:45.01ID:8xNQG2VD0
Yota: “Not only was he a lap behind, but he also came back from going off course.
0011Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:51:03.15ID:MYBS3+VZ0
People were worried about the power loss in the cold and the charging time, but no one noticed how quickly the tires wear down. It’s good that people are actually using them and finding out the bad points. All we need to do is learn from this and make a better EV. That’s how technology has advanced.
0017Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:52:04.66ID:A/REGeQO0(2/2)
>>11
No, no, no
That’s only natural if the car is heavier.
0063Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:59:45.52ID:xTzC90Pd0
>>11
The damage to the roads is horrendous.
0013Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:51:21.53ID:A/REGeQO0(1/2)
Yes, this is the global trend.
0014Security guard [lv.28].Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:51:26.28ID:pQQ/HWDj0(1/2)
Toyota is always right.
0016Security guard [lv.34].Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:52:01.59ID:7AP2c7bw0
German cars have failed again. After their big defeat to Mazda over diesel regulations, their falsification was exposed, and the myth of German cars came to an end,
they’ve been lost.
0019Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:52:15.50ID:0ed3Uehe0
Why did Honda take the EU’s outdated blather seriously?
0026Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:53:45.17ID:kMSZGi+V0
>>19
That’s probably because they favored liberal arts students.
0037Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:56:13.46ID:uagUvuFs0(1/4)
>>19
The EU even goes so far as to ban gasoline
They’re the yakuza that decides the environmental rules.
0057Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:58:55.25ID:0+rB8ZC40
>>19
They said publicly that they were going to stop making engines, but I think they continued research and development in anticipation of this happening.
0089Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 12:03:23.85ID:TsC0YEOy0
>>19
The president came from sales, not technology, and the company took a foolish turn by abandoning the independent research lab.
The seeds of decline had been sown for decades.
0022Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:53:17.57ID:+stIvBut0
Honda, Nissan and Mitsubishi are finished.
0023Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:53:32.62ID:kmDsEM0d0
That’s pretty much it, unless there’s a breakthrough in batteries.
0025Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:53:37.97ID:5Hwru9V60
At least not before the battery explodes.
0027Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:53:54.53ID:Eo44qu5s0
A clean, worn-out Volkswagen that burns a lot of coal.
0028Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:54:10.04ID:UXujY29b0
Honda has brought back hydrogen so they should be fine.
0029Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:54:39.97ID:nflM+mTH0
Rather than using oil or other fuels to generate electricity, wouldn’t gasoline be better?
0032Security Guard [lv.16].Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:55:07.68ID:6/IyyIX10(1/2)
In the first place, why were people so desperate to start talking about electric cars? Of course, global warming is a factor, but even without that, it’s still not something that can go mainstream. The market itself is definitely growing, but I’d like to know what’s behind this sudden desperation.
0099Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 12:05:31.94ID:AJTvX6/30(2/2)
>>32
China wanted to rise in the car industry. Europe, frustrated with no chance of beating the Japanese, jumped on China’s bandwagon. Europe was left in the dust by China.
0033Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:55:14.88ID:DVSuPQ4O0
Yumi Matsutoya’s husband said that EVs will be around in the future, and they’ll be pretty comfortable.
0058Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:58:58.44ID:qDOejSBn0(2/3)
>>33
They’re already on the market
The age of electric cars is already here
There hasn’t been much progress since the days of electric cars
But still, it’s better than level 5 autonomous driving at least that they’re on the market.
0034Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:55:18.04ID:4TDJ7Ylc0
Let’s revive thermal power generation.
0035Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:55:44.49ID:UUdPa2ET0(1/5)
Soichiro isn’t really suited for management either…
0036Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:56:00.63ID:qDOejSBn0(1/3)
In the end, hybrid cars with internal combustion engines are what sell (laughs).
0039Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:56:19.67ID:1NVDgylD0
Many people in the individual electric car threads on the car board are satisfied with their cars, but I often see complaints about the fact that the discounts and free charging services offered by dealerships have disappeared due to the recent rise in electricity prices.
0044Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:56:56.90ID:tTHmpBBU0
>>39
You’re not satisfied lol.
0040Security Guard [lv.29].Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:56:19.94ID:5otS/w1I0
It would be one thing to convert city commuter vehicles like kei cars into EVs, but converting all cars into EVs would be the height of stupidity.
0041Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:56:24.59ID:9jjJ212I0
I ride a bicycle. It’s comfortable. There are no traffic jams.
0042Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:56:27.59ID:zQQVyVMc0(2/6)
After eliminating Toyota, we were defeated by BYD.
0043Security Guard [lv.10] [bud].Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:56:55.30ID:sEC85T8x0
I mean, the current Yaris can go about 1000km on a 5-minute refueling, right?
No matter how you look at it, there’s no way it can beat an EV.
0045Security Guard [lv.11] [new].Sep. 16, 2024 (Mon) 11:56:57.14ID:QgIAPfwH0
It accelerates well and is quiet. Charging would be a little easier if I had a garage or somewhere similar, but if I don’t it’s a bit difficult and I can’t go on long trips.
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