0001Tarumon ★.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 07:52:15.35ID:7Kfy34lT9
Comments made by Yuichiro Tamaki, leader of the Democratic Party for the People, at a party leaders’ debate held at the Japan National Press Club on October 12, 2024, ahead of the House of Representatives election (nominations announced on the 15th, voting on the 27th) regarding the “legalization of dignified death” have caused a stir. Mr. Tamaki has been busy responding to the situation, including making explanations about his own actions. ■ “We have also begun to review medical care for the elderly, especially end-of-life care.”
The debate was attended by seven leaders of ruling and opposition parties, including the new president of the Liberal Democratic Party, Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba, and involved discussions. What is causing a stir is Tamaki’s argument for a “review of end-of-life medical care, including the legalization of euthanasia.” Tamaki said, “In order to lower social security premiums, we have also begun to review medical care for the elderly, especially end-of-life care. “This includes legalizing death with dignity,” he said, adding, “I believe that taking these measures, as well as reducing medical care benefits and social insurance payments for young people, will stimulate consumption and encourage the next virtuous cycle and wage increases.” “I realized how difficult it is to explain things in such a short time.”
There has been much discussion surrounding “death with dignity,” a delicate topic that concerns life and death. In this context, Tamaki’s discussion of dignified death in relation to social insurance premiums drew a series of criticisms on social media. On the evening of the 12th, after the debate had ended, Tamaki explained through his account, “At the Japan National Press Club, I mentioned the review of end-of-life medical care, including the legalization of death with dignity, and I received criticism and comments such as, will we abandon treatment for the elderly in order to reduce medical costs? However, the legalization of death with dignity is not something that is being done in order to reduce medical costs.” Regarding euthanasia, he explained, “It is a matter of an individual’s right to self-determination, so among our key policies we have deliberately positioned it under the heading of human resource development, rather than under the heading of reducing social insurance premiums.” Regarding the criticism he received, he said, “I had to explain everything in one minute today, so I apologize for the rough explanation. “I realized how difficult it is to explain this in such a short amount of time,” he said, adding, “I would like to reiterate that I view death with dignity as a matter of the right to self-determination.” “It’s not that we should allow dignified death in order to reduce the burden of social insurance premiums.”
Tamaki has previously expressed his views on dignified death. At a press conference announcing key policies on September 20, he stated, “We would also like to undertake a review of end-of-life medical care, including the legalization of dignified death.” “As a result, I believe this will lead to a reduction in medical expenses and a lighter burden in social insurance premiums,” he said, but added, “However, this does not mean that we should allow euthanasia in order to reduce the burden of social insurance premiums.” “The reason we deliberately wrote it here (in the section on human development) is because (death with dignity) is about ’how a person lives,’ ’how one ends one’s life’…it is something that relates to ’way of life,’ how one spends one’s final moments as a parent, grandparent, etc.,” he explained. He continued, “This is what is known as ACP, advance care planning (an initiative in which the patient, family members and other close people, and medical professionals repeatedly discuss in advance the medical treatment and care to be received in the final stages of life). “I have set out here that we will firmly establish such family meetings and legislate them, and will review how we spend our final days.” Posted on 10/13 (Sun) 11:46
Yuichiro Tamaki (Representative of the Democratic Party for the People)
@tamakiyuichiro
★1: 2024/10/13 (Sun) 23:13:37.33.
The debate was attended by seven leaders of ruling and opposition parties, including the new president of the Liberal Democratic Party, Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba, and involved discussions. What is causing a stir is Tamaki’s argument for a “review of end-of-life medical care, including the legalization of euthanasia.” Tamaki said, “In order to lower social security premiums, we have also begun to review medical care for the elderly, especially end-of-life care. “This includes legalizing death with dignity,” he said, adding, “I believe that taking these measures, as well as reducing medical care benefits and social insurance payments for young people, will stimulate consumption and encourage the next virtuous cycle and wage increases.” “I realized how difficult it is to explain things in such a short time.”
There has been much discussion surrounding “death with dignity,” a delicate topic that concerns life and death. In this context, Tamaki’s discussion of dignified death in relation to social insurance premiums drew a series of criticisms on social media. On the evening of the 12th, after the debate had ended, Tamaki explained through his account, “At the Japan National Press Club, I mentioned the review of end-of-life medical care, including the legalization of death with dignity, and I received criticism and comments such as, will we abandon treatment for the elderly in order to reduce medical costs? However, the legalization of death with dignity is not something that is being done in order to reduce medical costs.” Regarding euthanasia, he explained, “It is a matter of an individual’s right to self-determination, so among our key policies we have deliberately positioned it under the heading of human resource development, rather than under the heading of reducing social insurance premiums.” Regarding the criticism he received, he said, “I had to explain everything in one minute today, so I apologize for the rough explanation. “I realized how difficult it is to explain this in such a short amount of time,” he said, adding, “I would like to reiterate that I view death with dignity as a matter of the right to self-determination.” “It’s not that we should allow dignified death in order to reduce the burden of social insurance premiums.”
Tamaki has previously expressed his views on dignified death. At a press conference announcing key policies on September 20, he stated, “We would also like to undertake a review of end-of-life medical care, including the legalization of dignified death.” “As a result, I believe this will lead to a reduction in medical expenses and a lighter burden in social insurance premiums,” he said, but added, “However, this does not mean that we should allow euthanasia in order to reduce the burden of social insurance premiums.” “The reason we deliberately wrote it here (in the section on human development) is because (death with dignity) is about ’how a person lives,’ ’how one ends one’s life’…it is something that relates to ’way of life,’ how one spends one’s final moments as a parent, grandparent, etc.,” he explained. He continued, “This is what is known as ACP, advance care planning (an initiative in which the patient, family members and other close people, and medical professionals repeatedly discuss in advance the medical treatment and care to be received in the final stages of life). “I have set out here that we will firmly establish such family meetings and legislate them, and will review how we spend our final days.” Posted on 10/13 (Sun) 11:46
Yuichiro Tamaki (Representative of the Democratic Party for the People)
@tamakiyuichiro
★1: 2024/10/13 (Sun) 23:13:37.33.
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0006Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 07:54:05.69ID:qsGA/NWS0
>>1
[Important]
“We would also like to work on reviewing end-of-life care, including legalizing death with dignity.”
“As a result, I think this will lead to reduced medical expenses and a reduction in the burden of social insurance premiums.”
“As a result, this will lead to a reduction in the burden.” Tamaki has consistently stated that the most important issues are reducing the burden on the working generation and imposing a fair burden on the elderly. That’s pretty much all there has been recently, and “death with dignity” was one of the topics discussed. No doubt, what is in mind is “death with dignity,” aimed at reducing social security burdens. That should never happen. At the very least, the explanations given so far do not clear up the suspicions.
[Important]
“We would also like to work on reviewing end-of-life care, including legalizing death with dignity.”
“As a result, I think this will lead to reduced medical expenses and a reduction in the burden of social insurance premiums.”
“As a result, this will lead to a reduction in the burden.” Tamaki has consistently stated that the most important issues are reducing the burden on the working generation and imposing a fair burden on the elderly. That’s pretty much all there has been recently, and “death with dignity” was one of the topics discussed. No doubt, what is in mind is “death with dignity,” aimed at reducing social security burdens. That should never happen. At the very least, the explanations given so far do not clear up the suspicions.
0007Security guard [lv.20].Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 07:54:53.78ID:QV0Es6MR0(1/6)
>>1
I think it’s worth discussing. What do you think about forcing someone over 90 years old, who is practically dead, to live by connecting them to tubes? Don’t sacrifice young people to make doctors profitable.
I think it’s worth discussing. What do you think about forcing someone over 90 years old, who is practically dead, to live by connecting them to tubes? Don’t sacrifice young people to make doctors profitable.
0083Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 08:06:35.18ID:VjTyNMnw0(1/3)
>>1
That’s not going to cut medical costs, much less the Ministry of Finance and the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare cut insurance premiums. Tamaki is intentionally mixing up different stories to pander to the finance bureaucrats. What a dirty guy.
That’s not going to cut medical costs, much less the Ministry of Finance and the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare cut insurance premiums. Tamaki is intentionally mixing up different stories to pander to the finance bureaucrats. What a dirty guy.
0005Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 07:54:00.55ID:EJS5+Myy0
Free the young from the slavery of the old.
0012Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 07:55:26.78ID:aOudLf2p0
>>5
The Ice Age people who became slaves to the elderly when they were young will be killed as slaves to the young when they become old.
The Ice Age people who became slaves to the elderly when they were young will be killed as slaves to the young when they become old.
0008Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 07:55:04.09ID:wLrbmQql0(1/5)
If that happens I want to die.
0009Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 07:55:10.91ID:NHA7VLy20(1/2)
Ripples? Good suggestion.
0010Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 07:55:13.71ID:eVkLMKOV0
That’s a good thing.
0011Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 07:55:24.11ID:icg4uW+h0(1/5)
This will solve your medical expenses and pension problems at once.
0013Security guard [lv.33].Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 07:55:35.65ID:21oZNiak0
That’s true, but he’s just not good at handling things…
0014Security Guard [lv.12].Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 07:55:59.55ID:agpk9tXB0
Tamakin is the best!
I won’t vote for the LDP
The Democratic Party for the People is the only choice.
I won’t vote for the LDP
The Democratic Party for the People is the only choice.
0015Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 07:56:06.18ID:/PIlPIgG0
He wants the people to die as a result of his mismanagement.
0028Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 07:59:47.81ID:VwOI58Io0
>>15
Would you like to live connected to tubes?
Would you like to live connected to tubes?
0016Security guard [lv.20].Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 07:56:07.53ID:QV0Es6MR0(2/6)
Even though we are still young, we have to think about things like how we will die.
0017Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 07:56:15.76ID:NHA7VLy20(2/2)
If I were to develop dementia, I would want to die with dignity.
0018Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 07:56:58.59ID:X5DOc0GD0
Great! If I can no longer make money, I can choose to end my life in a comfortable way and without causing you guys any trouble.
0019Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 07:57:04.68ID:VSG9lZ4Z0
I think it is necessary to draw a line as to how far medical care should be provided. I wonder if treatment simply to keep the heart beating is a bad idea.
0020Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 07:57:10.09ID:awG5iGHJ0(1/7)
In a silver democracy, comments like this will be heavily criticized, and Japan will continue to decline.
0021Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 07:57:23.02ID:jO2Rl5uD0
The unavoidable reality for the Japanese, a nation of old people: the way people die is not normal in Japan.
0024Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 07:58:27.80ID:FeQ/GGmI0(1/6)
I want a euthanasia system. When I become unemployed, I want to die quickly and peacefully so as not to cause trouble for my family. I hope they enact a euthanasia system soon.
0031Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 08:00:34.59ID:NpA5Zu/F0
>>24
Even in places where there is a system, they don’t recognize it unless it’s an incurable disease.
Even in places where there is a system, they don’t recognize it unless it’s an incurable disease.
0044Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 08:02:38.31ID:iHCAfxGO0(2/2)
>>24
So true.
So true.
0046Security guard [lv.20].Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 08:02:45.50ID:QV0Es6MR0(3/6)
>>24
For these reasons, euthanasia is not permitted.
For these reasons, euthanasia is not permitted.
0025Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 07:59:10.99ID:L4m6aYBL0(1/2)
There’s no point listening to someone who keeps changing what they say.
0026Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 07:59:40.13ID:QNrF3srm0
Is it really happiness to force someone to live by connecting them to tubes?
0027Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 07:59:43.08ID:wkgIutUD0(1/7)
You can’t trust anything they suddenly start saying once the election has started, and this is true for all parties.
0050Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 08:02:56.13ID:622mRB/S0(1/2)
>>27
The next big thing is the presidential election.
The next big thing is the presidential election.
0029Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 08:00:17.52ID:ZLVvUSbo0
I guess it was tied to medical expenses. Now I understand this guy’s values lol.
0030Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 08:00:24.66ID:h3Ph2/EB0
I’m sure there’s room for debate, but I think the explanation that it’s for money creates a negative feeling.
0032Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 08:01:14.76ID:iHCAfxGO0(1/2)
Allow euthanasia.
0035Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 08:01:41.53ID:wkgIutUD0(2/7)
I can trust Yamamoto Taro’s “abolition of the consumption tax” because he’s been saying it ever since the party was founded, but Tamaki is a liar who changes his pledges every election, so I really can’t trust anything.
0036Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 08:01:43.28ID:KIJY/8kc0
The issue of nursing care for the elderly has been an issue for a while. Someone had to say something, but all the politicians are silent. They can get good care because they have money, but for ordinary people who can no longer receive that, they should at least give them a place to die peacefully.
0037Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 08:01:51.09ID:6292nlu+0(1/2)
The time has finally come for me to exercise my right to vote. If they make euthanasia a campaign promise, I’ll even donate.
0039Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 08:01:58.14ID:SLie81Mt0
Tamaki always tries to get Japan to replicate the failures of other countries.
0040Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 08:02:01.89ID:6+QPN3X+0
This is certainly true. The idea that the longer you live, the better is clearly a distorted value. Wasting the lives of young people to care for the elderly is far removed from the true nature of life.
0041Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 08:02:02.24ID:mDVCUQbj0(1/2)
More importantly, there will be restrictions on generic drugs and cuts to doctors’ wages, and the end result will be only 1 trillion yen.
0043Security Guard [lv.10] [Sprout].Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 08:02:18.38ID:w4avxAru0(1/2)
Euthanasia and euthanasia have been around for a long time, but almost no country has implemented it properly.
0047Security guard [lv.13].Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 08:02:51.34ID:KQv3rVP20(1/2)
There was a specialized hospital where patients were hooked up to tubes with no hope of recovery. No one came to visit them, so there was no point.
0071Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 08:05:42.05ID:KhY6OgXR0(2/2)
>>47
I heard that a nurse I know has been a nurse for 20 years.
She said that because nurses have a tough job, they’re secretly happy to have easy-going patients like that.
I heard that a nurse I know has been a nurse for 20 years.
She said that because nurses have a tough job, they’re secretly happy to have easy-going patients like that.
0048Security Guard [lv.7] [Seedling].Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 08:02:51.60ID:9XukMVCU0(1/2)
Ooh!
0051Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 08:03:08.22ID:D5ke+RJa0
If he continues to speak out strongly after the election is over, I’ll give him some credit.
0052Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 08:03:21.80ID:eYANUSRw0
In many countries overseas, dialysis is paid for by the individual after retirement. When the money runs out, the harsh reality is that life is over.
0055Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 08:03:49.67ID:PxD6OBna0(1/3)
I want people to die with dignity.
0057Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 08:03:59.25ID:ZELLkzBI0(1/4)
If your parents get sick, can you say to them, “We lived in a good time, so why don’t you just die?”
0068Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 08:05:29.14ID:PxD6OBna0(2/3)
>>57
Because it’s not the child’s decision.
Because it’s not the child’s decision.
0061Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 08:04:44.78ID:pGwMeuxT0
I often say this about topics that you think in your heart but will get criticized if you say it out loud.
0112Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 08:10:44.12ID:QMUeR/980
>>61
I really think so
I hope a big movement happens
My perspective is completely different, but I once voted for the Euthanasia Party, but the results were terrible, so I guess there’s still a negative reaction outside of 5ch. But that’s what I thought.
I really think so
I hope a big movement happens
My perspective is completely different, but I once voted for the Euthanasia Party, but the results were terrible, so I guess there’s still a negative reaction outside of 5ch. But that’s what I thought.
0066Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 08:05:26.81ID:hyBAwqJ30
Tamaki is still a terrible politician. Should I say that now?
However, I think that euthanasia should be considered.
However, I think that euthanasia should be considered.
0075Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 14, 2024 (Mon) 08:06:01.04ID:UcKUlJfK0
As the population ages, spending is on the rise and there’s nothing we can do about it.
Other languages: 【国民民主党】玉木代表「社会保障の保険料を下げるために高齢者医療、特に終末期医療の見直し…尊厳死の法制化も」発言が波紋, El comentario del representante Tamaki “Revisar la atención médica para los ancianos, especialmente la atención al final de la vida, para reducir las primas de seguridad social... También legislar sobre la muerte con dignidad” causó revuelo.
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