Apartment management fees are increasing one after another, with the number of consultations regarding an average increase of 30% the highest ever.

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0001Boiled eggs★.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:14:16.41ID:di0v2e0t9
Problems surrounding the maintenance of apartment buildings are on the rise. According to the Condominium Management Center, a public interest incorporated foundation, the number of inquiries received from condominium residents, management associations, management companies, etc. in fiscal 2023 reached 14,253, the highest number ever. The number of consultations regarding management fee hikes and dissatisfaction with management association chairpersons and management companies has been increasing over the past five years, and according to a staff member at the center, some of the consultation cases include the following: “An extraordinary general meeting will be held to discuss raising the management fee, but the notice does not explain the specific amount of the increase.”
“The board of directors is considering raising the management fee, but they are just following the management company’s orders without considering ways to save money.”
“The management fee account is in the red, so we are considering raising the fee, but do you have any materials that investigate the average management fee for condominiums?”
“The board of directors has already decided to raise the management fee.”
The background to the trouble is the increase in condominium management fees. Sakura Office, a real estate consulting firm, looked into apartments built by major developers such as Mitsui, Mitsubishi, Nomura, Sumitomo and Tokyu in nine central Tokyo wards, including Chuo, Minato, Shibuya, Shinjuku, Meguro, Setagaya and Koto, and found that the average management fees for new apartments had increased by 30% over the seven years from 2017 to 2023. This is because rising prices are driving up labor costs for security, cleaning, and other maintenance work. Teruyuki Tsuchiya, a condominium management consultant, says, “When management companies outsource services such as cleaning and security to contractors, they add on fees, which makes the costs higher. This means that residents are resistant to this and have recently led to many problems.” What can I do to prevent problems? Tsuchiya says, “If you can’t accept the price hike, you could consider changing management companies, but with prices rising, I think the situation is the same everywhere,” and advises that management companies also need to make an effort to provide clear accounting for the breakdown of management fees, etc. “If you want to reduce management fees as much as possible, one option is for the management association to manage the property independently. However, maintaining the quality of an apartment building requires significant management costs. The residents and the management company have no choice but to have a thorough discussion and reach a compromise.” (Editorial Committee Member, Morishita Kae) [Asahi Shimbun] 2024/10/13 (Sun) 18:00 ★12024/10/14 (Mon) 09:15:45.24 * Previous thread.
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マンション「管理費」の値上げ相次ぎ、平均値4割増 相談は過去最多 ★2 [煮卵★]
0034Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:55:55.36ID:XvHTY4df0
>>1
Well, they take 10% even if there is no sales on the invoice,
and it’s tough if you have a tenant.
0002Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:15:11.79ID:FCCExk620
“Renting is the best,” says a poor single man living in a rented apartment.
0044Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 10:08:12.60ID:AZZoSRbj0(1/3)
>>2
Winners.
0003Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:18:06.42ID:3puF7bQM0(1/4)
It seems more people are going to be in trouble because of rising maintenance fees and repair reserve funds than self-proclaimed power couples going bankrupt because of rising mortgage interest rates.
0005Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:19:31.58ID:O8+Dypxf0(1/2)
The Condominium Act is an evil law that turns apartment residents into slaves.
0006Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:20:35.66ID:+XSf6t5H0
A high-rise apartment resident dies.
0045Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 10:08:39.88ID:AZZoSRbj0(2/3)
>>6
It’s going to go up even more.
0007Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:22:09.01ID:0RyRVZ9d0(1/2)
Last year, I was on the management association’s board of directors.
We raised prices, but we also cut costs wherever possible.
The other residents complained, but…
Thanks to them, we were able to turn our accounts, which had been bleeding red ink, into a profit.
0015Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:30:57.26ID:twAmDTfP0
>>7
Thank you for your hard work.
When reforms are made, there are always people who continue to complain in secret.
It’s better if people openly voice their opposition, as it will solve the problem faster, but if you don’t think carefully about how to respond, some people will resent you for “embarrassing yourself by speaking out publicly,” and it’s difficult.
0008Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:22:53.63ID:2E9emEmc0
Inflation means costs go up, and at the same time, asset values ​​go up too.
0018Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:33:53.15ID:lQqPZGgF0(2/2)
>>8
Inflation will increase the maintenance costs of all buildings,
but it doesn’t mean that the asset value of all apartments will increase…
0009Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:24:47.23ID:+NiEU4VC0
Repair cost reserves will also increase.
0010Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:24:58.98ID:Fc/u8iqQ0
Single elderly people will have no choice but to die alone.
0012Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:26:42.96ID:MJVS5s8w0
The fruits of Abenomics are coming to fruition.
0013Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:26:45.89ID:bSToJtHd0
Even if you say that condos are assets because they sell for a high price, if you pay a high monthly fee separately, how is that different from a rental apartment? Well, it’s just food for general contractors lol.
0014Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:28:50.01ID:tZkX7+8y0
It’s unavoidable at a time when prices are rising.
0017Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:33:02.37ID:q4zCq0Rc0
Even the consumables we use every day for cleaning are becoming more and more expensive.
0019Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:40:02.12ID:pJTJe+Fm0
A small price increase would be unavoidable, but in the previous thread some people said it had tripled, so I thought that was a stretch.
0039Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 10:02:20.41ID:IYwW5s9U0(2/8)
>>19
The condominiums that are saying it’s three times higher are just suffering a backlash from having been unfairly undercharged up until now.
There are many condominiums where the management fees, which should have increased gradually, are kept unfairly low due to a structure that bullies subcontractors.
0061Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 10:20:07.56ID:yrlTnwH/0(1/2)
>>19
They said that they make those kinds of things really cheap at first so they’ll sell easily
Have they been banned yet?
0022Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:42:41.20ID:PoNjtfNu0
Prices are going up all over the world, so I want my salary to go up even more.
0032Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:52:55.41ID:vMQd7czw0(2/3)
>>22
> I want salaries to go up even more than that.
The reality is that in order to raise salaries for people in their 20s and secure wages for those over 60 who are reemployed,
they are cutting salaries for people in their 40s, who are the most expensive for child-rearing! That’s why lol.
0024Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:44:16.65ID:hZ7nZEUx0
Even if you’re living on 200,000 yen a month with a take-home pay of 200,000 yen, just because your take-home pay goes up to 500,000 yen doesn’t mean you can’t save money. If you’re living on 500,000 yen a month with a take-home pay of 500,000 yen, you’ll be able to cope with the price hike. If you’re living on 200,000 yen a month with a take-home pay of 500,000 yen, you’ll be comfortable.
0025Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:45:35.34ID:7kYpUKLQ0(1/2)
Aren’t they getting a wage increase to cover that amount?
I don’t know about pensions though.
0027Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:47:26.45ID:lriVxtVt0
My income has quietly increased by 1.5 times, but I guess that can’t be helped.
0028Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:50:34.84ID:vMQd7czw0(1/3)
The person in the previous thread who said renting is more profitable, why did they calculate it assuming they would only live in the house for 10 years and then sell it?
Buying a house is linked to your children, so you probably wouldn’t sell it until they’re independent, I think.
0029Security guard [lv.27].Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:50:50.88ID:740O2O9a0
Since it’s a multi-story tenement house, it’s bound to show signs of wear and tear.
0030Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:52:22.71ID:7kYpUKLQ0(2/2)
Rental property that was bought, sold, and contracted at the right time >> detached house >> rental property that didn’t come along at a time when a suitable property was suitable for a life-changing moment

Right?

0031Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:52:31.79ID:My6DHTAL0
There’s nothing you can do about high-rise apartments.
0033Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:54:05.37ID:3puF7bQM0(2/4)
Some people say that it’s hard to get along with neighbors in a detached house, but I think the relationships are much closer in an apartment. That can’t be helped, since you’re all roommates in the same boat, sharing assets with people whose backgrounds you don’t know.
0035Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:57:26.14ID:gx/oXCSH0
Rents are likely to go up soon…
0036Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:58:38.74ID:IYwW5s9U0(1/8)
Even detached houses require garden maintenance, and it costs money if you outsource it to a professional.
0037Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 09:59:22.32ID:14iQ92zs0
The previous board members created a carryover fund that allowed us to avoid raising prices, but that will soon run out.
0038Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 10:01:31.24ID:3puF7bQM0(3/4)
Well, they can be sold for a decent price now, so those with money will sell it and run away. Apartments aren’t meant to be lived in permanently, so the best thing to do is move around every 10 years. The ones left unable to move will have to draw the jackpot at the end, in a grand Old Maid game.
0041Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 10:04:02.05ID:3puF7bQM0(4/4)
Many apartment building workers know this, so they live in detached houses.
0043Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 10:08:03.26ID:PNmzJ8l70
Living in a tenement house is tough.
0046Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 10:08:47.08ID:7jZKJ+NJ0(1/2)
Management fees for new apartments are set low intentionally by developers to make them look cheap to buyers, and in the future they will need to raise them substantially to make the property viable. I think it’s better to just rent a place and relax than to pay tens of thousands of yen a month in management fees and repair reserves.
0048Security guard [lv.27].Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 10:10:03.94ID:BKP7n2G40
>>46
Won’t the rent increase?
0049Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 10:10:30.48ID:u5VURBBE0(1/5)
It’s best to buy a house or apartment around age 50.
0054Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 10:14:31.31ID:OfxGlJ+d0(2/2)
The major real estate companies are deeply involved with Keidanren, so that’s what it comes down to.
0058Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 10:19:07.85ID:kUCdvcSD0(1/3)
Just pay the maintenance fees for an apartment for 10 years and you can buy a rundown house in the suburbs — 3.8 million yen in Mie Prefecture
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0059Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 10:19:29.54ID:fweSmH3Q0
Mortgage interest rates keep rising, monthly maintenance fees keep rising, and the apartment we bought by stretching our budget with a loan that was too high is causing discord in our household!
0096Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 15, 2024 (Tue) 10:52:16.17ID:Z28v9ngg0
Apartment repair costs have gone up drastically, and even if we order it now, the work will take several years to complete.
Reference: https://asahi.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1728951256, World Data and graph

Other languages: マンション「管理費」の値上げ相次ぎ、平均値3割増相談は過去最多, Las “tarifas de administración” de los condominios han ido aumentando una tras otra, y el número promedio de consultas, con un aumento del 30%, es el más alto de la historia.

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