Over 60% of people are “not confident that they can pay their children’s tuition and education fees.” What do they think is the minimum income necessary to raise a child?

Japanese economy
0001Capital Region Tiger ★.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 09:39:31.31ID:jh3oUZ6D9
Job Research Institute, a research institute run by Persol Career Co., Ltd. (Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo), recently announced the results of its “2024 Japanese Economic Awareness Survey: Low Birthrate Edition.” According to the survey, more than 60% of people responded that they were not confident that they could pay tuition and education fees with their current income. In addition, when asked about the minimum income that people think is necessary to raise a child, the average was “8.317 million yen,” the median was “5.25 million yen,” and the most frequent value was “5.25 million yen.” The survey was conducted online in September 2024 targeting 292 working men and women aged 20 to 50 nationwide who use the company’s anonymous consultation service “jobq town.” First, we asked, “Are you thinking about having children in the future?” to which 65.4% answered “Yes.” Looking at this by annual income, 80.4% were “8 million yen or more,” 80.0% were “6 million to less than 8 million yen,” 69.3% were “4 million to less than 6 million yen,” 52.4% were “2 million to less than 4 million yen,” and 44.8% were “less than 2 million yen.” For the full text, see source. Last updated: 10/23 (Wed) 7:30.

子どもの「学費・教育費を払える自信がない」人が6割超 子育てに必要だと思う最低限の収入は?(まいどなニュース) - Yahoo!ニュース
パーソルキャリア株式会社(東京都千代田区)が運営する調査機関『Job総研』は、このほど「2024年 日本経済の意識調査~少子化編~」の結果を発表しました。同調査によると、6割以上の人が「現収入で学費
0010Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 09:47:49.78ID:T7t8QbvW0
>>1
The entire amount is a loan in the child’s name.
0002Security guard [lv.8].Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 09:41:10.90ID:ERY56YVT0(1/2)
So that’s why you’re single?
0003Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 09:42:28.79ID:+NbsFCrJ0
Even so, both parents and children use iPhones.
0039Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:05:17.99ID:vGDLRyDR0
>>3
It’s an iPhone Pro.
0004Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 09:42:58.38ID:fE+LMLcK0(1/3)
The median and mode are 5.25 million and the average is 8.31 million, so does that mean some people are giving extremely biased answers?
0024Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 09:56:08.81ID:SFvShM1t0
>>4
It’s just an online survey. Some people may give unrealistic answers like 20 million or 100 million.
0005Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 09:44:23.58ID:lhcd63FA0
Taking the university entrance exam with a deviation score of 40.
0006Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 09:45:07.71ID:xjanykZR0
If they have children, they will have a mortgage of tens of millions of yen, they will need at least 20 million yen for each child’s upbringing, and it is even said that they will need 40 million yen for their own retirement.
0008Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 09:46:35.85ID:fE+LMLcK0(2/3)
I think it’s tough to have kids on an annual income of 2-4 million yen, but I wonder if there are people who are still new graduates who are answering that they will do it in the future. It’s hard to tell unless you take age and gender into account.
0012Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 09:49:39.34ID:fE+LMLcK0(3/3)
If you’re going to ask people if they want to have children in the future, you should only ask people in their 20s. What’s the point of asking people in their 50s? There aren’t many people to answer, so what do they want to do?
0025Security Guard [lv.11] [Sprout].Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 09:57:03.61ID:6dDJEW0q0
>>12
You want to correlate income with the desire to have children. See, it’s because we don’t have the money! Support us by handing out money. Cause and effect doesn’t matter. Their job is to create correlations that seem plausible and create vested interests.
0013Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 09:49:58.33ID:WHnAXyRD0
You had a child even though you couldn’t afford to pay for its education?
That’s just too irresponsible.
0014Security Guard [lv.2] [Sprout].Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 09:52:14.97ID:iJ/xHqz+0(1/9)
Liberalizing the ban on child labor for low-income families who can’t afford education fees.
Realizing that we’re a developing country, we should treat children as a source of labor like in the old days.
Morning Newspaper Taro and the milk-delivering ladybug brothers did the same thing.
Children without money should contribute to society from an early age, give money to their families, and make their finances more stable.
It’s all good.
0016Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 09:52:27.35ID:4Buckq7I0
There is a huge gap in education between the rich and poor in cities and the countryside. In poor rural areas, unless a child’s intelligence and motor skills are extremely high, they will completely fail.
0041Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:06:10.28ID:cqTkzAWA0(1/2)
>>16
People like that should become nurses.
Even if they have low intelligence, if they have the physical strength they can earn more than the average Japanese salary.
0017Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 09:52:54.53ID:+FHiq1FE0
To begin with, it’s not so much a declining birthrate as there’s no one in the generation to have children…
Generally speaking, there are fewer children among the current 55-65 age group.
0079Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:19:16.44ID:cNLrkW6X0
>>17
My parents are the youngest of many poor children
My uncles and aunts only have 1 or 2 children
They either couldn’t have children or didn’t want to have children
It seems like it’s both.
0018Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 09:53:09.62ID:seM2hNrd0(1/2)
The cost of living alone is huge, and it’s not just tuition fees.
0019Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 09:53:15.10ID:PEfYgbvP0
Also, preferential treatment is given to the wealthy.
0020Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 09:54:49.92ID:qoZMVSwV0
I have two kids and I have about 12 million yen saved up for their college education, but is that enough?
0021Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 09:55:25.61ID:U+uOVobN0
It should be collected from single people without children.
0022Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 09:55:31.80ID:4qs7XpV20
Well, even if measures to combat the declining birthrate go well and the birth rate exceeds 2, it will be 30 years before we see results…
0023Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 09:55:34.00ID:7813v14A0
We should provide more support for child rearing. Taxes for young people should be reduced. Middle-aged and older single people with no future should be treated poorly, just get more out of them.
0026Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 09:57:17.76ID:psxykO6R0
Osaka City “We will make education free of charge”
As a result, the focus is on private schools.
0027Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 09:57:24.64ID:JbH3GuE80
Japan has too much population, so it’s fine for the birthrate to fall. There’s no need to give preferential treatment to the child-rearing generation. I’d rather they tax children.
0029Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 09:59:27.57ID:JgsG290P0(1/2)
Give the money allocated to the elderly to families with children. Also, there’s a huge budget for gender equality projects, but there’s too much of it we don’t need. Dismantle it and reassess the budget. Give it to us.
0030Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 09:59:40.13ID:ptpac1SK0
I think having children is hard. I think that we are squeezed dry of all our money until we graduate from university, and when we leave 20 years later we will be living in a society where AI has risen to power and all we need is one person in a position of responsibility in the workplace. It costs money but you can’t expect anything in return… The old idea that having children would bring you a return has collapsed.
0032Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:02:01.06ID:sKV6pRbh0
>>30
Someone said something similar around the time of the IT revolution.
How many decades has it been since then?
0053Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:11:26.20ID:RyFwMuPp0(2/16)
>>30
No, in a few years, AI will take over jobs in non-creative liberal arts jobs.
Or rather, companies will go bankrupt because productivity won’t increase if they don’t do that.
Even design and editing jobs where you can just copy other people’s designs.
And announcers who don’t have the ability to interview people and get their stories out.
Humans will still be responsible for things like actually moving around and filming, knowing the structure of the equipment and physically building it, and inspecting it by hand.
0031Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:01:53.76ID:D8DEQst00
Exam fees are too expensive in Japan, and the tuition itself isn’t that expensive.
0033Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:02:06.47ID:RyFwMuPp0(1/16)
If you don’t have money, just send your child to a public school. There’s no need to live in Tokyo and have them take the entrance exams for private schools from elementary school, or to enter some other crazy world. Whether or not they can study depends on whether their parents are at a level where they can easily teach them for the high school entrance exams.
0046Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:08:59.73ID:cqTkzAWA0(2/2)
>>33
It seems like even if you spend that much money, you’ll only get a March rank
Well, if those people don’t do anything, they’ll probably end up in the F column…
0034Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:02:58.34ID:6INvKE3a0
There are too many people who are not living within their means.
0037Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:04:50.79ID:EnXj2Uh/0
There’s no choice but to increase taxes through energy conservation levies.
0038Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:05:12.19ID:kOG/kfCC0(1/2)
They’re too poor and too spoiled. All animals work themselves to the bone to raise their young.
0042Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:06:40.74ID:E+AC2Wg/0(1/2)
If you think like that, it’s better not to have children.
0043Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:06:59.97ID:y4aPqqlJ0(1/2)
The reason for the declining birthrate is because single men over 40 don’t get married, don’t have children, and live as they please, so we should collect single men’s savings for retirement as a singles tax and give it to young people to get them married.
0045Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:08:38.17ID:pcbIAPnK0
>>43
Housing a home loan is tough.
How many tens of millions of yen do you have left to pay off that debt?
0044Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:07:03.80ID:lgcMNECl0
I’m not sure I can afford it…

After getting married and having kids? lol
Are parents these days stupid if they don’t think about it before getting married?

0048Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:10:04.68ID:v9EJ7qs40(1/3)
>>44
The situation was worse in the past, which is why we have a declining birthrate today.
0051Security guard [lv.9].Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:11:16.60ID:ERY56YVT0(2/2)
>>44
That’s stupid.
And there’s no point in relying on a single person.
0054Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:11:38.18ID:seM2hNrd0(2/2)
>>44
Until now, marriage and childbirth were just a part of the momentum, and things were somehow getting by.
But now that there are so many goody-goody people saying things like that, the birthrate is declining at a rapid pace.
0083Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:20:28.49ID:k/CO40DT0
>>44
You’re complaining about the government not coming up with any good policies or producing any decent results, even though you’re saying that not having children will lead to a declining birthrate and it’s going to be a big problem.
0049Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:10:19.64ID:BqsLJ9Vy0
So what did people do in the Showa era?
I’m sure the costs of cram schools, extracurricular activities, smartphones, etc. were mounting.
0072Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:18:02.05ID:RyFwMuPp0(4/16)
>>49
Prices and annual income are different.

A normal salaryman’s income increases based on seniority, and he lived in Tokyo and sent his children to cram school.
It’s not possible to do that in Tokyo now, but
in a regional city, you have to be extravagant, like replacing your car every 3-5 years.

0084Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:20:38.74ID:bjyyQZKA0(2/4)
>>49
If you just get married through an arranged marriage or introduction and just have sex, the baby will be born.
Once the baby is born, you have no choice but to raise it in a way that suits your household’s financial situation at the time.
0050Security Guard [lv.2] [Sprout].Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:10:58.54ID:iJ/xHqz+0(2/9)
In capitalism, it’s natural to spend money on children, and if you can’t invest, it’s bad debt. Who would willingly buy such high-risk financial products? If someone with no money gambles on speculation, the world will call them stupid.
0057Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:12:26.21ID:RapaMtK00
Birth rate: Tokyo 0.99, Okinawa 1.60. Low income means low birth rates.
0077Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:18:57.52ID:v9EJ7qs40(2/3)
>>57
Having money or not is a relative matter.

In Okinawa, where a high school diploma is the norm, Tokyo requires a college degree, and Tokyo has less money.

0059Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:13:50.15ID:BZGsHUXU0
I seriously want taxes to be increased for childless people.
0067Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:16:36.80ID:tBnW2LTm0
>>59
People who have children without thinking about the future will be taxed mercilessly.
Become food for the LDP!
0068Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:16:54.00ID:LHbv34u80
>>59
Don’t you understand that doing something like that would only accelerate the decline in the birthrate?
0065Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 23, 2024 (Wed) 10:16:21.94ID:KGKKHDPH0
As things stand now, there is too much inequality between those with and without children, so tuition fees should be made completely free.
Reference: https://asahi.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1729643971/, World Data and graph

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