1Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (Tokyo) [Neko].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:41:10.42ID:3tdioDxv0●
The proliferation of high-rise apartment buildings in cities is causing problems for delivery workers, including those who work for couriers and food delivery companies. Since many households live in one building, it would seem like deliveries could be made efficiently. However, the reality is quite different. There are various rules, including security. It takes time and effort, and in many cases is more difficult than delivery to depopulated areas, so the delivery is expected to result in a loss. I wish they’d charge me extra for it.” An official from a major delivery company spoke out. With the upper limit on drivers’ overtime work coming into effect in April, and the logistics industry facing the “2024 problem” of labor shortages, home delivery to high-rise apartments has become a real problem. When Nippon Steel Kowa Real Estate (Minato, Tokyo) interviewed a major logistics company about the actual situation of collection and delivery, they found that in one day, collection and delivery for a high-rise apartment building in Tokyo (about 50 floors, about 1,000 units) included 27 deliveries, 5 pickups, and 5 absences, totaling 255 minutes. Of this time, 87 minutes, or one third of the total time, was spent waiting for the elevator and riding it. Including this, movement within the apartment building accounted for nearly 50% of the total.
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都市に林立するタワーマンションが宅配便やフードデリバリーなどの配達員を苦しめている。1棟に多くの世帯が集まっているので一見、効率的に配達できそうだ。だが、現実は全く異なる。 「セキュリティーを
6Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (Tokyo) [ro].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:44:46.91ID:dP3BGBRz0
>>1
It would probably take about that long to deliver to a village of 1,000 houses in the mountains, right?
It would probably take about that long to deliver to a village of 1,000 houses in the mountains, right?
24Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (mushroom) [us].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:51:11.19ID:qklGFlj80
>>1
So the prices are going up because of the high-rise residents.
So the prices are going up because of the high-rise residents.
64Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (New Japan) [Nida]Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 07:06:01.54ID:OaiL4CYu0
>>1
Play it by address lol.
Play it by address lol.
78Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (New Japan) [Nida]Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 07:10:51.20ID:OaiL4CYu0
>>1
Well, in depopulated areas, if you drive along the road you’ll reach the front door lol.
Well, in depopulated areas, if you drive along the road you’ll reach the front door lol.
2Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (thread) [in].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:42:25.24ID:NfEBGKEi0
It’s fine if you refuse. Some people don’t like people coming onto the premises.
3Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (Tokyo) [Nida]Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:42:39.34ID:9d+FJZq40
Just take it, it’s an additional charge.
4Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (Aichi Prefecture) [de].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:43:48.88ID:JTveXiid0
Let’s stop delivering to high-rise apartments lol.
5Guard [lv.12] [bud] (yard) [eu].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:44:35.62ID:qogbMU/C0
If we create an Amazon room at the entrance, that will solve the problem. The delivery person won’t have to wander around and you can pick up your package at any time.
7Security guard [lv.12] [Sprout] (Tokyo) [US].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:45:07.58ID:BNTuTe4h0
Next time, make holes on the rooftop of your high-rise apartments that connect to each apartment so we can throw our belongings in.
8Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (Kumamoto Prefecture) [se].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:45:17.89ID:5XER0mDC0
The problem can be solved by paying the high-rise apartment rates.
9Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (Garden) [au].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:45:18.61ID:YFkIEQZO0
A delivery box at the entrance would be fine. If you don’t like it, don’t live in a high-rise apartment.
10Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (Tokyo) [gb].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:45:52.50ID:3aY2GqpK0
*Additional charges will apply for remote island tower condominiums.
11Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (sb-android) [us].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:45:58.26ID:iQdTiibd0
They should hire part-time workers who live in high-rise apartments.
19Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (garden) [de].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:48:52.79ID:Pp0CLPmf0
>>11
There are refrigerated and frozen items, so if you’re not there, it’s over.
There are refrigerated and frozen items, so if you’re not there, it’s over.
12Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (Mikaka) [cn].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:47:06.99ID:LDfJRikC0
Just make delivery boxes for the upper floors and people will be happy to use them.
14Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (Kanto region) [cn].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:47:21.14ID:7eTWnx+x0
There are separate charges for Okinawa, Hokkaido, and other remote islands.
15Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (Mushroom) [Look]Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:47:37.17ID:tE+ZgYxG0
Nowadays, you can set local rules to pinpoint specifics, right? Just send it to the delivery box, take a photo of it in the box, and send it.
16Security Guard [Lv.1] [Sprout] (Zipang) [US].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:47:40.45ID:TdnSXVxR0
Just like on remote islands, we should charge separate fees for high-rise apartments and also impose a heavy property tax.
17Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (SoftBank) [ve].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:48:22.30ID:XvTRqBkK0
It’s good to have an elevator. Wouldn’t it be even more difficult in the five-story apartment complexes built in the Showa era that don’t have elevators?
28Security Guard [Lv.6] [Sprout] (Zipang) [US].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:52:05.84ID:RHMOgzl50
>>17
Five-story apartment complexes without elevators are rare, and although it’s a bit tiring, it doesn’t take long to get there, unlike high-rise apartments.
Five-story apartment complexes without elevators are rare, and although it’s a bit tiring, it doesn’t take long to get there, unlike high-rise apartments.
18Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (myo) [us].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:48:51.73ID:IBJQ0szI0
Can’t I just refuse?
You’ve tried too hard up until now.
You’ve tried too hard up until now.
20Security Guard [Lv.6] [Sprout] (Zipang) [US].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:48:59.92ID:RHMOgzl50
I do Uber Eats, but I refuse to deliver to huge high-rise apartment buildings because it’s a pain.
I don’t know the exact address when I offer to deliver, but I know the general location, so if it’s a high-rise apartment building that requires attention, I refuse it.
Well, sometimes I accept it if the pay is really high.
I don’t know the exact address when I offer to deliver, but I know the general location, so if it’s a high-rise apartment building that requires attention, I refuse it.
Well, sometimes I accept it if the pay is really high.
22Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (SoftBank) [kr].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:49:24.95ID:CN01dQlc0
Speaking of which, it seems that ambulances often can’t arrive in time because they have to wait for the elevators in high-rise apartment buildings.
23Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (Western Japan) [Neko].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:50:39.41ID:Jq6sf2Cr0
I thought it would be easy in an apartment building because you can handle the volume, but it’s not like that in a high-rise apartment building. It would be nice if there were delivery boxes or you could leave the parcels there, but you can’t require a personal seal.
25Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (Tokyo) [cn].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:51:14.74ID:AZwOdnB+0
High-rise apartments should have a collective delivery box at the entrance. All packages should be put there and residents of each apartment should come to pick them up. The concierge on-site should help carry heavy packages.
27Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (Mushroom) [Look]Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:52:03.33ID:0aKbJaZT0
It’s like a remote island, so it’s okay to charge extra.
30Security guard [lv.37](Zipang) [gb].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:52:51.75ID:Yg8Ns8PX0
Treated as a remote island.
32Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (garden) [de].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:53:45.67ID:T+XGlTFg0
Hire delivery staff within the high-rise apartment complex.
33Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (SoftBank) [cn].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:54:06.96ID:fsFBgJbL0
Loser’s school bag.
34Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (sb-android) [us].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:54:21.51ID:5ydNgiTU0
Wouldn’t it be ok to add a fee?
They’re the wealthy.
The shipping fee should be the island region rate.
They’re the wealthy.
The shipping fee should be the island region rate.
35Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (Aichi Prefecture) [us].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:54:39.26ID:qFCoBfyI0
It’s fine for cash on delivery, but if you pay at the sender, it seems like it would be a lot of work to create a system that would detect if the item is a high-rise apartment and change the price accordingly. If the price changed when you entered text in the apartment field, there would probably be people who would try to cheat by writing the apartment name in a place other than the apartment field.
47Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (garden) [de].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:59:54.77ID:Pp0CLPmf0
>>35
If you cheat, it should be returned to the sender without question
and you’ll be charged double the fee.
If you cheat, it should be returned to the sender without question
and you’ll be charged double the fee.
36Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (Hyogo Prefecture) [us].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:54:44.81ID:Pd81Gpwv0
Like on remote islands, buildings with 6 floors or more should be charged separately.
38Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (SoftBank) [fr].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:55:43.30ID:9RzMacC10
>>36
What do you do with an apartment that doesn’t have a fourth floor?
What do you do with an apartment that doesn’t have a fourth floor?
37Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (Garden) [jp].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:55:33.56ID:9D4Yk9zd0
Kuroneko is finished.
42Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (myo) [us].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:58:32.93ID:7PGU9JZ10
Delivery men are slaves.
53Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (garden) [de].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 07:01:51.48ID:Pp0CLPmf0
>>42
Yes, a lawsuit.
Yes, a lawsuit.
43Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (SoftBank) [fr].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:58:40.85ID:9RzMacC10
I used to deliver pizza when I was a student, and it was hourly wage, so I was happy to work in an apartment. I could kill time by walking around the apartment, and I paid 150 yen per delivery. I’m not an independent contractor, but part-time employees who deliver under an hourly contract probably don’t think anything of it, and are probably happy about it.
44Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (Tokyo) [hk].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:58:46.79ID:VZ2Fndq10
Change your shoes. Don’t carry anything that may impact the walls.
45Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (Tokyo) [cn].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:58:48.90ID:1NvXvDsA0
Kuroneko Yamato seems to be in the red, so they should charge a surcharge for apartments with more than a certain number of floors.
46Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (Osaka Prefecture) [be].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 06:58:51.30ID:j8RSju0J0
The problem can be solved by installing a huge delivery box.
48Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (New Japan) [pl].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 07:00:05.45ID:8JvNkw5K0
Laws should be made to require fees to be charged for high-rise condominiums.
58Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (SoftBank) [us].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 07:03:40.80ID:ItlPSaVB0
59Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (Garden) [au].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 07:04:18.36ID:YFkIEQZO0
>>58
That’s Kuwaman…
That’s Kuwaman…
60Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (SoftBank) [us].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 07:04:20.96ID:ItlPSaVB0
67Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (Hyogo Prefecture) [Nida]Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 07:08:54.64ID:oDsofq7I0
>>60
Isn’t it okay to just refuse delivery?
Isn’t it okay to just refuse delivery?
69Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (garden) [de].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 07:09:22.86ID:Pp0CLPmf0
>>60
Places like this can’t be delivered.
If they can’t, they’ll sue for human rights issues.
Places like this can’t be delivered.
If they can’t, they’ll sue for human rights issues.
87Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (Nagasaki Prefecture) [au].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 07:13:09.27ID:n9L9lqHD0
>>60
This sign ruins the look
And what’s with that “chome” thing? It’s so lame.
This sign ruins the look
And what’s with that “chome” thing? It’s so lame.
92Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (New Japan) [Nida]Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 07:15:00.31ID:OaiL4CYu0
>>60
I guess the Towerman admin posted it on his own accord lol.
I guess the Towerman admin posted it on his own accord lol.
66Anonymous @ Teary-eyed. (Garden) [kr].Nov. 6, 2024 (Wed) 07:08:50.55ID:EohGegFv0
They should just charge a separate fee. They live in a high-rise apartment, so they must be wealthy.
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