0001Gure ★Jul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 08:49:04.41ID:1baFlsX29
※2024/07/23 05:00
Yomiuri Shimbun
It has been revealed that the suicide of a male employee (24 years old at the time) of a housing manufacturer in 2020 was recognized as an industrial accident by the Kashiwa Labor Standards Inspection Office (Chiba Prefecture), which ruled out the development of a mental illness due to “customer harassment” caused by severe nuisance from customers. It is unusual for an industrial accident recognition that recognizes a causal relationship between suicide and customer harassment to be made public.
The man joined Polas in Koshigaya City, Saitama Prefecture in April 2019 and was in charge of sales of custom-built homes at an affiliated company. At the end of August 2020, while working at a housing exhibition center in Chiba Prefecture, he jumped from his room in the employee dormitory and died, and his parents filed for industrial accident compensation in February 2022.
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Yomiuri Shimbun
It has been revealed that the suicide of a male employee (24 years old at the time) of a housing manufacturer in 2020 was recognized as an industrial accident by the Kashiwa Labor Standards Inspection Office (Chiba Prefecture), which ruled out the development of a mental illness due to “customer harassment” caused by severe nuisance from customers. It is unusual for an industrial accident recognition that recognizes a causal relationship between suicide and customer harassment to be made public.
The man joined Polas in Koshigaya City, Saitama Prefecture in April 2019 and was in charge of sales of custom-built homes at an affiliated company. At the end of August 2020, while working at a housing exhibition center in Chiba Prefecture, he jumped from his room in the employee dormitory and died, and his parents filed for industrial accident compensation in February 2022.
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住宅メーカー社員の自殺、カスハラ原因と労災認定…「銭なんか払えねえ」と客から強い口調でクレーム
【読売新聞】 2020年に住宅メーカーの男性社員(当時24歳)が自殺したのは、客から著しい迷惑行為を受けた「カスタマーハラスメント(カスハラ)」などで精神疾患を発症したことが原因だとして、柏労働基準監督署(千葉県)が労災認定していた
0035Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:07:41.46ID:5IUpVGya0(1/3)
>>1
After reading the article
The house next door? They were dirtying the exterior walls of the building and parking on the street, causing trouble for the neighbors… I don’t know
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>I was forced to clean the exterior walls of the neighboring property that the contractor had dirty, and I was also angry that he didn’t answer the phone on a holiday. The bosses were not aware of the details of these complaints.
>In early August 2020, a customer complained in a strong tone that the contractor was parking on the street near the site and causing trouble for the neighbors.
After reading the article
The house next door? They were dirtying the exterior walls of the building and parking on the street, causing trouble for the neighbors… I don’t know
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>I was forced to clean the exterior walls of the neighboring property that the contractor had dirty, and I was also angry that he didn’t answer the phone on a holiday. The bosses were not aware of the details of these complaints.
>In early August 2020, a customer complained in a strong tone that the contractor was parking on the street near the site and causing trouble for the neighbors.
0085Guard [lv.7] [Sprout]Jul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:31:38.80ID:41uAnf0Q0(1/2)
>>1
>>In early August 2020, a customer complained in a strong tone that a contractor was parking on the street near the work site and causing a nuisance to local residents. The man’s cell phone said, “I’m not going to pay you for that.”
There are still places to park on the street these days.
It’s your fault.
>>In early August 2020, a customer complained in a strong tone that a contractor was parking on the street near the work site and causing a nuisance to local residents. The man’s cell phone said, “I’m not going to pay you for that.”
There are still places to park on the street these days.
It’s your fault.
0119Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:48:00.98ID:v1+3z5dk0(1/18)
>>1
No lol
It’s fine to go to court lol
It’s a company lol
Even Ishimaru from Aki-Takata City is taking legal action
No lol
It’s fine to go to court lol
It’s a company lol
Even Ishimaru from Aki-Takata City is taking legal action
0004Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 08:52:01.36ID:odfPbd8O0
A shocking case of an overly arrogant and malicious complainer who was murdered by an angry beef bowl restaurant manager [Monster Complainer Case Files]
調子に乗りすぎた悪質クレーマー、キレた牛丼店店長に殺害された衝撃的な事件【モンスタークレーマー事件簿】 - ライブドアニュース
クレーマーは店舗責任者にとっては非常に厄介な存在。悩みのタネとなっている人の中には、「殺してやりたい」と思うこともあるだろう。通常そのような場合、警察や運営会社に相談することが適切だと思われるが、
0005Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 08:52:33.72ID:krGWa2mH0
Because I made a mistake
0078Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:28:53.63ID:NLIdk9O50
>>5
This.
You should also state the cause.
“Customer harassment” has become the magic word, but isn’t it diversity?
This.
You should also state the cause.
“Customer harassment” has become the magic word, but isn’t it diversity?
0006Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 08:53:43.79ID:ohabZtiR0
“Kasuhara” is a good word. It has a double meaning.
0007Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 08:54:13.60ID:0sB7f+HX0(1/5)
The example given in the article is of course the home builder wiping the mess, but they just haven’t been there to manage the contractor.
0030Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:06:20.83ID:4N6N4Odn0
>>8
If this is true, then the subcontractors are to blame.
It’s bad publicity to say “We use these kinds of companies.”
If this is true, then the subcontractors are to blame.
It’s bad publicity to say “We use these kinds of companies.”
0032Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:06:26.16ID:6tphLHwo0
>>8
This is the case of a college graduate salaryman who can’t say anything to a former delinquent site supervisor.
If the former delinquent acts humble and silly, he’ll be in a good mood.
This is the case of a college graduate salaryman who can’t say anything to a former delinquent site supervisor.
If the former delinquent acts humble and silly, he’ll be in a good mood.
0037Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:08:05.90ID:eFTroMH10
>>8
Is this customer harassment?
Isn’t this the basic thing to do before filing a complaint?
Scary.
Is this customer harassment?
Isn’t this the basic thing to do before filing a complaint?
Scary.
0040Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:09:27.16ID:0/Sf25yo0
>>8
The victim was 24 years old at the time of her death.
She had never been scolded by anyone until she entered the workforce,
and had always been raised with a strong sense of praise,
so even a little scolding would probably cause her mental breakdown.
The victim was 24 years old at the time of her death.
She had never been scolded by anyone until she entered the workforce,
and had always been raised with a strong sense of praise,
so even a little scolding would probably cause her mental breakdown.
0046Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:12:37.45ID:XyQxsmrZ0(1/3)
>>8
If this was actually the case, I think it wasn’t customer harassment, but something had happened with the site supervisor.
If this was actually the case, I think it wasn’t customer harassment, but something had happened with the site supervisor.
0060Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:16:39.51ID:HPk4oHWm0
>>8
If this is called customer harassment, it’ll be awful
The customers won’t be able to say anything.
If this is called customer harassment, it’ll be awful
The customers won’t be able to say anything.
0088Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:32:29.12ID:ZqqahFe/0
>>8
It’s hell to stand there and deal with this.
It’s hell to stand there and deal with this.
0094Guard [lv.7] [Sprout]Jul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:34:38.24ID:41uAnf0Q0(2/2)
>>8
Why didn’t they fire the contractor?
Why didn’t they fire the contractor?
0096Guard [lv.8] [Sprout]Jul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:35:22.99ID:FfNgfaVA0
>>8
After all, craftsmen are shit.
They act cool like they’re making a living off their skills.
After all, craftsmen are shit.
They act cool like they’re making a living off their skills.
0097Shinzo AbeJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:37:00.75ID:n/VQtzxi0
>>8
That’s true. I think the companies’ sense of street parking is crap and I’d go to the real estate agency to complain.
That’s true. I think the companies’ sense of street parking is crap and I’d go to the real estate agency to complain.
0009Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 08:54:24.62ID:6WpcguN50
Sales is hard, right? If you’re not cut out for it, work in a factory.
0010Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 08:56:10.68ID:9JZILYPW0
A classmate of mine also graduated and started working in real estate sales, but ended up going crazy. It’s tough to force sell things that don’t sell.
0011Security Guard [lv.16]Jul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 08:56:52.90ID:7CZJXB920(1/2)
If you make even the slightest complaint, you’ll be treated as customer harassment. You’ll have to go to court straight away.
0013Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 08:57:44.26ID:JnLqwfAZ0(1/2)
Shouldn’t you just not insult people? I understand the desire to insult people, but it’s not okay.
0014Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 08:58:25.49ID:+vAuhmdU0
Of course he’d be angry if an additional fee was charged. The main reason is probably that the people around him couldn’t follow up.
0015Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 08:58:50.67ID:jQX7gxwc0
Polus had a good image.
0016Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 08:59:08.86ID:fnMWbw7B0
From what I read in the article, it seems like it’s the contractor who is at fault…
0018Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:00:54.21ID:vYoJ8qrJ0
Because the dead man’s argument prevails.
0020Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:01:29.57ID:0sB7f+HX0(2/5)
I don’t know if the additional costs were due to the customer’s request or if the estimate was too low, and it’s not a proper article to begin with.
0021Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:01:50.81ID:ql/4xdai0
I don’t know how it was phrased, but I think the culprit is a contractor.
0022Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:01:52.02ID:xed4K6RQ0
Since the suicide was recognized as a work-related accident due to customer harassment, and there is a clear causal relationship, we can sue the customer for damages. It is no longer a place to build a house.
0023Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:02:03.01ID:usYdOf8b0
They get angry about additional costs after the contract is signed, and even in tough transactions between companies, they’ll say “I won’t pay you a single yen, yay!”, and they’ll blame the sales department or the front desk for any mismanagement on the ground.
0024Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:03:16.04ID:efJ6XKgp0
No, it’s because the company didn’t follow up.
0025Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:04:20.89ID:6tcHjcU90
Is this really due to customer harassment?
0026Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:04:30.58ID:1cPdQoKB0(1/6)
The language is foul and harsh, but I think the complaints are generally reasonable.
0027Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:04:42.06ID:S9DMo9G50
Please file a complaint with the complainer.
0028Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:05:44.54ID:ZfzM3ago0
The complaint is legitimate. I guess the company’s organizational response was crap and he was caught in the middle, so it was recognized as an industrial accident.
0029Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:06:16.68ID:M4SEhq5S0
People who complain to the sales department should be considered customer harassment. The proper route for this is to go to the consultation desk. And forcing sales to run the consultation desk is power harassment.
0031Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:06:25.86ID:UV+g4LfB0(1/2)
Will customers be required to record calls as well?
Even legitimate complaints could be treated as customer harassment.
What if we were told in this case that there would be no additional charges?
Even legitimate complaints could be treated as customer harassment.
What if we were told in this case that there would be no additional charges?
0034Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:07:24.26ID:0sB7f+HX0(3/5)
In the first place, the customer had no idea about the division of roles between the home builder and the contractor, so it was only natural that they would complain to the home builder.
0039Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:09:20.72ID:+TAAE7UI0
>>34
You’re probably complaining to the weaker, easier person.
If you’re watching the scene, you just need to be careful then.
You’re probably complaining to the weaker, easier person.
If you’re watching the scene, you just need to be careful then.
0042Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:10:11.60ID:c6j/fT980(1/3)
When I renovated my room, the contractors were persistent in asking about parking for their vehicles, and even the half-day air conditioner installation guy checked the parking lot beforehand.
When they couldn’t provide parking, they warned me in advance, saying, “We’ll charge you for parking nearby.”
Why did you park on the street?
When they couldn’t provide parking, they warned me in advance, saying, “We’ll charge you for parking nearby.”
Why did you park on the street?
0048Anonymous DonburakoJul. 23, 2024 (Tue) 09:12:50.37ID:5IUpVGya0(2/3)
The construction work continues on weekends, so if there are any problems, you will have to complain to the housing company. And they will say that you called on a day off…
Other languages: 【埼玉】住宅メーカー社員の自殺、カスハラ原因と労災認定…「銭なんか払えねえ」と客から強い口調でクレーム
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