Chairman Okutani denies rumors linking his relative’s bankruptcy to personal grudge against Governor Saito, calling it “not a family business.”
1Mr.Shoko★.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:51:30.22ID:+1rV0nto9
Josei Jishin
Posted: 2024/11/22 06:00
Updated: 2024/11/22 10:10
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The company of Chairman Okutani’s relative went bankrupt → Did he take part in the Saito downfall out of personal grudge? He completely denies the rumors spreading on x, saying “It is not a family business at all.”
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He firmly denies the rumors spreading on x, saying “It is not a family business at all.”
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[Photo included] Governor Saito agrees to take a selfie with a woman
(Omitted)
On the other hand, Tachibana declared on x on the 19th, “I will sue Chairman Okutani Kenichi for defamation against Tachibana Takashi!” Furthermore, on the 21st, he posted, “It looks like Chairman Okutani’s relative’s company has gone bankrupt!” One user quoted and reposted a post pointing out that a fireproof board manufacturing and sales company run by a relative of Mr. Okutani had gone bankrupt. However, this incident has apparently led to the spread of false rumors about Mr. Okutani. According to a bankruptcy information website, the fireproof board manufacturing and sales company in Miki City, Hyogo Prefecture, received a decision to commence bankruptcy proceedings in February of this year. It has been pointed out in x that Mr. Okutani’s late father served as vice president of the company. On the other hand, the website listed the reasons for the bankruptcy as follows: “The company had a large number of deliveries to government construction projects, but government construction work continued to decrease. Furthermore, the COVID-19 outbreak has led to a series of postponements of construction projects and the cancellation of planned projects. As a result, the company’s sales have been sluggish and it has been struggling to manage its finances, leading to the current situation.” Because of this, some people are beginning to view Okutani with skepticism, linking him to the Saito administration. Tachibana’s post has received comments such as, “This is one of the reasons for the uproar over Governor Saito’s removal!” and “The 100-Article Committee was formed out of personal grudge.” In other words, it is being interpreted that “Mr. Okutani’s family company, which was contracted to carry out construction work for government agencies, has seen its work reduced under Governor Saito’s administration, and so Mr. Okutani holds a grudge against Governor Saito.” Indeed, during his first term, Saito froze plans to rebuild the prefectural office building as part of fiscal reform. ■He firmly denies the rumors spreading about x: “It’s not a family business at all.”
On the 21st, we were able to speak to Okutani himself about these “rumors” about x (below, the person in parentheses is Okutani). First of all, it is true that his relative’s company went bankrupt, but Okutani says, “I didn’t know about it until my mother told me.” The company was founded by Mr. Okutani’s grandfather and was run by his father’s younger brother, who was also his uncle. He said that his relationship with his uncle was “estranged from the start,” and added, “When I was running for the Hyogo Prefectural Assembly election (in 2015), I visited my uncle, who lives in the same ward, to say hello. But we just had a little conversation,” he said. On the other hand, Mr. Okutani’s father was LDP House of Representatives member Michiru Okutani, who passed away in July 2003 at the age of 51. Okutani recalled, “I heard that my father served as vice president of my uncle’s company for a period of time, but ever since I was old enough to understand, all I remember is him as a politician.” Originally, Michi was secretary to the late House of Representatives member Kenzaburo Hara, but when he returned to his hometown and tried to run for Hyogo Prefectural Assembly seat, he was met with fierce opposition from his family and relatives. Okutani said, “At that time, my grandfather told me, ‘If you work hard in your local area for four years, I will allow you to become a politician. “I think it was probably those four years when he served as vice president at my uncle’s company,” he speculated, emphasizing. “I didn’t even know that my uncle’s company had gone bankrupt, and I knew absolutely nothing about the business. I first found out (about the company going bankrupt) when my mother told me. So it’s not a family business at all. Although I was indebted to my uncle in some ways, our relationship was more or less estranged.”
Regarding the suspicion that “I was involved in the reconstruction of the prefectural office building,” which has surfaced in X, he said, “I don’t think I was involved. “With all due respect to my uncle, I don’t think the company is large enough to take on the task of rebuilding the prefectural office building,” he said, firmly denying the claim. He then frankly shared his thoughts about the situation in which false rumors are being spread on x. “Actually, I’m really scared right now. Although the rumors were denied at the press conference, people still said things like, “It must be true because Tachibana said so.” To be honest, I find myself wondering “what should I do” in this situation. I’m so confused that I don’t even have the energy to refute this new rumor, which seems to have been exaggerated and expanded.”
Posted: 2024/11/22 06:00
Updated: 2024/11/22 10:10
Page 1
The company of Chairman Okutani’s relative went bankrupt → Did he take part in the Saito downfall out of personal grudge? He completely denies the rumors spreading on x, saying “It is not a family business at all.”
Page 2
He firmly denies the rumors spreading on x, saying “It is not a family business at all.”
Page 3
[Photo included] Governor Saito agrees to take a selfie with a woman
(Omitted)
On the other hand, Tachibana declared on x on the 19th, “I will sue Chairman Okutani Kenichi for defamation against Tachibana Takashi!” Furthermore, on the 21st, he posted, “It looks like Chairman Okutani’s relative’s company has gone bankrupt!” One user quoted and reposted a post pointing out that a fireproof board manufacturing and sales company run by a relative of Mr. Okutani had gone bankrupt. However, this incident has apparently led to the spread of false rumors about Mr. Okutani. According to a bankruptcy information website, the fireproof board manufacturing and sales company in Miki City, Hyogo Prefecture, received a decision to commence bankruptcy proceedings in February of this year. It has been pointed out in x that Mr. Okutani’s late father served as vice president of the company. On the other hand, the website listed the reasons for the bankruptcy as follows: “The company had a large number of deliveries to government construction projects, but government construction work continued to decrease. Furthermore, the COVID-19 outbreak has led to a series of postponements of construction projects and the cancellation of planned projects. As a result, the company’s sales have been sluggish and it has been struggling to manage its finances, leading to the current situation.” Because of this, some people are beginning to view Okutani with skepticism, linking him to the Saito administration. Tachibana’s post has received comments such as, “This is one of the reasons for the uproar over Governor Saito’s removal!” and “The 100-Article Committee was formed out of personal grudge.” In other words, it is being interpreted that “Mr. Okutani’s family company, which was contracted to carry out construction work for government agencies, has seen its work reduced under Governor Saito’s administration, and so Mr. Okutani holds a grudge against Governor Saito.” Indeed, during his first term, Saito froze plans to rebuild the prefectural office building as part of fiscal reform. ■He firmly denies the rumors spreading about x: “It’s not a family business at all.”
On the 21st, we were able to speak to Okutani himself about these “rumors” about x (below, the person in parentheses is Okutani). First of all, it is true that his relative’s company went bankrupt, but Okutani says, “I didn’t know about it until my mother told me.” The company was founded by Mr. Okutani’s grandfather and was run by his father’s younger brother, who was also his uncle. He said that his relationship with his uncle was “estranged from the start,” and added, “When I was running for the Hyogo Prefectural Assembly election (in 2015), I visited my uncle, who lives in the same ward, to say hello. But we just had a little conversation,” he said. On the other hand, Mr. Okutani’s father was LDP House of Representatives member Michiru Okutani, who passed away in July 2003 at the age of 51. Okutani recalled, “I heard that my father served as vice president of my uncle’s company for a period of time, but ever since I was old enough to understand, all I remember is him as a politician.” Originally, Michi was secretary to the late House of Representatives member Kenzaburo Hara, but when he returned to his hometown and tried to run for Hyogo Prefectural Assembly seat, he was met with fierce opposition from his family and relatives. Okutani said, “At that time, my grandfather told me, ‘If you work hard in your local area for four years, I will allow you to become a politician. “I think it was probably those four years when he served as vice president at my uncle’s company,” he speculated, emphasizing. “I didn’t even know that my uncle’s company had gone bankrupt, and I knew absolutely nothing about the business. I first found out (about the company going bankrupt) when my mother told me. So it’s not a family business at all. Although I was indebted to my uncle in some ways, our relationship was more or less estranged.”
Regarding the suspicion that “I was involved in the reconstruction of the prefectural office building,” which has surfaced in X, he said, “I don’t think I was involved. “With all due respect to my uncle, I don’t think the company is large enough to take on the task of rebuilding the prefectural office building,” he said, firmly denying the claim. He then frankly shared his thoughts about the situation in which false rumors are being spread on x. “Actually, I’m really scared right now. Although the rumors were denied at the press conference, people still said things like, “It must be true because Tachibana said so.” To be honest, I find myself wondering “what should I do” in this situation. I’m so confused that I don’t even have the energy to refute this new rumor, which seems to have been exaggerated and expanded.”
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百条委員会・奥谷委員長 親族の会社が倒産→私怨で斎藤おろしに加担? Xで拡散する疑惑を「一族経営では全くない」と完全否定 | 女性自身
前知事の斎藤元彦氏(47)が返り咲いた先の兵庫県知事選。斎藤県政の2期目がスタートしたが、パワハラなどの疑惑が指摘された内部告発文書問題は百条委員会で調査が継続されている。 いっぽう選挙戦をめぐっては、物議を醸した出来事も。斎藤氏を応援...
56Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 11:04:06.21ID:ONyHFZ+N0
>>1
Saito fans are really disgusting
They criticize everything with their delusions.
Saito fans are really disgusting
They criticize everything with their delusions.
2Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:52:08.78ID:8mw+FP0a0
It’s too late now, it’s become known.
3Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:52:52.68ID:ZJO+h7eB0
Did Tachibana-san say that?
95Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 11:10:20.34ID:8CHltUbE0
>>3
I know.
I know.
4Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:53:10.74ID:XWKFl1rj0
The Protocol of Sien.
5Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:53:55.66ID:OXZdtbCz0
A member of the 100-Article Committee who resigned from his seat in the Diet and fled had fabricated the actions of Governor Saito…
議員辞職して逃亡した百条委員会の委員、斎藤知事の行為を捏造していた・・・ [135853815]
5ちゃんねるの涙目ニュース速報 5ちゃんねる壊滅、元に戻るのは・・・二年かかるでの議論に参加しましょう:「議員辞職して逃亡した百条委員会の委員、斎藤知事の行為を捏造していた・・・ 」。
6Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:54:06.51ID:vCUZjd+e0
Even if it was personal grudge, does this guy have that kind of power?
7Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:54:26.53ID:yxN3qJBX0
Oh, are you playing the victim?
8Security Guard [lv.1] [Sprout].Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:54:43.19ID:VSQmv6WR0
This is not a completely anonymous message board. Your identity may be revealed if a disclosure request is made. Please be careful.
9Security Guard [lv.15] (Eternal Garden).Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:54:50.07ID:jLlPi9750
Tachibana probably wasn’t aware of this either.
11Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:55:08.81ID:OXZdtbCz0
[Sad news] The video that Saito Anon spread widely in which Chairman Okutani said “there was no power harassment” was “extracted.”
【悲報】斎藤アノンが散々拡散した奥谷委員長「パワハラはなかった」動画は『切り取り』でした [115996789]
5ちゃんねるのニュース速報(嫌儲) mango shake!での議論に参加しましょう:「【悲報】斎藤アノンが散々拡散した奥谷委員長「パワハラはなかった」動画は『切り取り』でした 」。
62Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 11:05:05.02ID:EqvsNDgr0
>>11
Even though they criticize the mass media’s cuts, it seems that Saito’s followers’ cuts are good cuts.
Even though they criticize the mass media’s cuts, it seems that Saito’s followers’ cuts are good cuts.
79Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 11:07:08.50ID:PUFBs7Ls0
>>11
How can Ishimaru’s supporters, who kept shouting about the media intentionally cutting him off,
reconcile Ishimaru’s rise to power with the intentional cutting video?
Well, I guess facts are fine as long as they make you feel good.
How can Ishimaru’s supporters, who kept shouting about the media intentionally cutting him off,
reconcile Ishimaru’s rise to power with the intentional cutting video?
Well, I guess facts are fine as long as they make you feel good.
12Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:55:09.88ID:TI/b0zGV0
Was there any bidding? I want a thorough investigation.
34Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:59:55.48ID:YU5U790r0
>>12
I can’t say that this is the case here, and I won’t say it, but it’s a common rumor in the countryside that even if you’re not directly involved, deliveries have to go through such and such a place…
I can’t say that this is the case here, and I won’t say it, but it’s a common rumor in the countryside that even if you’re not directly involved, deliveries have to go through such and such a place…
13Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:55:11.91ID:uZL+Kjz30
There are still many companies like this in the world.
15Security guard [lv.34].Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:55:46.26ID:rUcaZn9X0
Won’t there be suspicions of inducement of benefits? Let’s hold a 100-article committee to dispel those suspicions.
16Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:55:53.80ID:5ZXoF+ql0
Their vested interests have been taken away.
17Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:56:21.56ID:nG5AbG6b0
It’s a shame that Okutani-san is being slandered because of false rumors.
86Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 11:08:01.12ID:BISljU6a0
>>17
Saito supporters only take social media at face value.
Saito supporters only take social media at face value.
18Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:56:36.44ID:qd6MXeMS0
I don’t know if this guy is sane or not, but it’s good that he denied it so clearly.
19Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:56:37.07ID:1Otqm1yC0
[Extra Edition] Anti-Saito Motohiko hero, Rep. Maki Maruo, “Deciding to fight against accusations of begging being fabricated” – Seeking donations to cover disclosure request costs!
【号外】アンチ斎藤元彦のヒーロー丸尾まき議員「おねだり疑惑の捏造などと言われ闘う決意」開示請求費用のカンパ募集へ! [339712612]
5ちゃんねるのニュース速報(嫌儲) mango shake!での議論に参加しましょう:「【号外】アンチ斎藤元彦のヒーロー丸尾まき議員「おねだり疑惑の捏造などと言われ闘う決意」開示請求費用のカンパ募集へ! 」。
20Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:56:55.14ID:7C14L4yH0
Don’t adjust your hat under a plum tree.
21Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:56:56.43ID:NAKMikvx0
I shouldn’t have gotten carried away and gone to the rehearsal…
22Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:56:57.32ID:Ti135NQ+0
That’s just too far-fetched lol.
23Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:58:09.79ID:iKvIKg010
If the media doesn’t get the facts out quickly, the misdeeds of the Inamura camp will keep coming to light, right?
To stop that, wouldn’t it be better to interview the Okutani family and broadcast the results? That would be the first step towards regaining trust.
To stop that, wouldn’t it be better to interview the Okutani family and broadcast the results? That would be the first step towards regaining trust.
24Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:58:12.96ID:3N7JhaEJ0
Unless Mr. Okutani clearly explains who he heard say “Tachibana said that,” you will be committing defamation again by spreading false information.
25Security Guard [lv.5] [Sprout].Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:58:13.02ID:x5od0sUW0
Is she Haraken’s secretary, who had the Akashi Kaikyo Bridge built at a cost of several trillion yen?
32Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:59:21.80ID:zOTDp1su0
>>25
The fact that it was the epicenter of the Great Hanshin-Awaji Earthquake is
publicly indecent!
The fact that it was the epicenter of the Great Hanshin-Awaji Earthquake is
publicly indecent!
27Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:58:39.64ID:EDAxyS2N0
Well, he will likely deny it, but the dots about his persistence will connect, so I think an explanation will be required.
28Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:58:41.52ID:PUFBs7Ls0
Japanese people love lies. They feel good and omnipotent with conspiracy theories that even pets like dogs and cats can understand.
29Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:59:19.19ID:4cOHe8vS0
Unlike Saito-san, if I deny it everyone will understand.
30Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:59:19.93ID:Qhk2KIL40
It’s finally out.
33Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 10:59:28.45ID:ZodACYWD0
No matter how much he denies it, it’s a disadvantage when the facts are right in front of him. It’s all down to how each person perceives it.
35Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 11:00:11.31ID:UVsEg8Lc0
Personal grudge lol
It’s because he’s a messed up governor who got fired unanimously lol.
It’s because he’s a messed up governor who got fired unanimously lol.
39Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 11:00:59.33ID:OS77neut0
Aren’t we going to hold an Article 100 committee on this matter? Hey you.
40Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 11:01:02.92ID:ezOxzboN0
Watching the Payo-chin dancing after the election, I was glad that Saito was the winner.
42Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 11:01:22.56ID:EqvsNDgr0
I guess that’s because they said they’re not a company large enough to take on the contract. If they were actually taking on the contract, it would come out, so this is just nitpicking.
44Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 11:01:30.19ID:3iwVf8iK0
But one line is clear: architects, public buildings, maintenance.
45Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 11:01:49.64ID:VVdkQxQ80
Okutani was originally a member of the Saito supporters, so he’s probably quite easily influenced.
46Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 11:02:01.06ID:/LyicGfh0
Idiot believer: “Old media!”
Is this what you do in a world that denies old media?
The internet is just following in the footsteps of old media (lol).
Is this what you do in a world that denies old media?
The internet is just following in the footsteps of old media (lol).
48Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 11:02:08.29ID:v8osLEUZ0
In rural areas, it is common for companies affiliated with the previous governor to go bankrupt when a new governor is appointed.
49Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 11:02:40.03ID:5Y5xuuBq0
Are there still fools worse than cats and dogs who are controlled by Tachibana?
50Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 11:02:41.82ID:Qn9/hkRH0
They are against cutting things off on TV, but when Tachibana cuts things out they blindly believe it. This is why Tachibana calls the people of Hyogo stupid.
51Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 11:02:51.16ID:3Fy2dRUP0
The fact is that my parents were involved, and the company my uncle was president of went bankrupt after losing the job to rebuild the government building due to Governor Saito’s cost-cutting orders. It’s up to each individual to decide whether to take that fact as a personal grudge or not.
63Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 11:05:10.77ID:Of7CntGE0
>>51
> What is the source of the “fact” that the company whose president is my uncle lost the job of rebuilding the government building due to Governor Saito’s cost-cutting orders and went bankrupt?
> What is the source of the “fact” that the company whose president is my uncle lost the job of rebuilding the government building due to Governor Saito’s cost-cutting orders and went bankrupt?
74Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 11:06:30.74ID:e6fY672R0
>>51
Is it true that you were involved in rebuilding the prefectural office building?
Is it true that you were involved in rebuilding the prefectural office building?
52Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 11:03:25.77ID:JaY8IZwZ0
It’s a coincidence.
57Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 11:04:20.69ID:xzX0zgAT0
Evil will be destroyed lol.
59Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 11:04:35.74ID:07yzW6aL0
“I didn’t know until my mother told me.”
Isn’t that a denial?
Isn’t that a denial?
68Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 22, 2024 (Fri) 11:05:35.00ID:wR+o1NTw0
Are they going to attack Okuya this time?
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