A friend’s elderly father was denied a lease despite financial stability and guarantees, highlighting challenges for older renters.
1Boiled eggs★.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 10:59:38.76ID:aHaMrWiV9
“My dad got turned down for a lease. I said I’d come over every day and take responsibility for paying the rent, but it didn’t work out…”
I was surprised to hear this from my friend. My father, who is in his 80s, is a strong-willed man with no financial worries. My friend lives in a detached house in Tokyo, and her father lives alone in a rental property nearby, but when she found a property closer to her house and tried to move, she was denied the screening. I had heard that it was difficult for elderly people to sign rental contracts, but I never imagined that even people who seemed fine enough would be turned down… What is the current situation regarding elderly people searching for rental properties? We spoke with Ryo Yamamoto, president of r65 Real Estate, the only real estate company in Japan that specializes in helping elderly people find housing. ■Real estate companies mechanically refuse applications based solely on age, with some saying they will refuse applications from age 40 and up
[Ryo Yamamoto, CEO of r65 Real Estate]
The reality is that it is difficult to rent a property just because you are elderly. Only about 5 percent of rental properties are suitable for people aged 65 or older. Real estate companies don’t look at the person, but simply turn them down based on their age. Standards vary from company to company, and as an extreme example, there are companies that say, “We will not accept anyone over the age of 40.” One of our clients, a doctor living in Setagaya Ward, wanted to sell his house and rent a place near his son, but was repeatedly turned down due to his advanced age. After desperately searching for three months, he finally found a place. Her son had opened a clinic in Toshima Ward and asked her to live nearby and help out, so she moved there. I’m okay with supervision and have the money. Still, he won’t lend it to me. You will be turned down simply based on your age…they will mechanically respond with, “Sorry, we turn down people over 65.” Moreover, there isn’t any particular reason why the age is 65, it’s just that “65 years old = elderly” so it’s not acceptable. Isn’t that strange? Even if you think, “This person will be okay,” you may be told, “It’s not possible because of company regulations.” Continued below
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2024/11/23 (Sat) 8:00
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I was surprised to hear this from my friend. My father, who is in his 80s, is a strong-willed man with no financial worries. My friend lives in a detached house in Tokyo, and her father lives alone in a rental property nearby, but when she found a property closer to her house and tried to move, she was denied the screening. I had heard that it was difficult for elderly people to sign rental contracts, but I never imagined that even people who seemed fine enough would be turned down… What is the current situation regarding elderly people searching for rental properties? We spoke with Ryo Yamamoto, president of r65 Real Estate, the only real estate company in Japan that specializes in helping elderly people find housing. ■Real estate companies mechanically refuse applications based solely on age, with some saying they will refuse applications from age 40 and up
[Ryo Yamamoto, CEO of r65 Real Estate]
The reality is that it is difficult to rent a property just because you are elderly. Only about 5 percent of rental properties are suitable for people aged 65 or older. Real estate companies don’t look at the person, but simply turn them down based on their age. Standards vary from company to company, and as an extreme example, there are companies that say, “We will not accept anyone over the age of 40.” One of our clients, a doctor living in Setagaya Ward, wanted to sell his house and rent a place near his son, but was repeatedly turned down due to his advanced age. After desperately searching for three months, he finally found a place. Her son had opened a clinic in Toshima Ward and asked her to live nearby and help out, so she moved there. I’m okay with supervision and have the money. Still, he won’t lend it to me. You will be turned down simply based on your age…they will mechanically respond with, “Sorry, we turn down people over 65.” Moreover, there isn’t any particular reason why the age is 65, it’s just that “65 years old = elderly” so it’s not acceptable. Isn’t that strange? Even if you think, “This person will be okay,” you may be told, “It’s not possible because of company regulations.” Continued below
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92Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:12:16.56ID:MLCKowlA0
>>1
A girlfriend in her 80s? lol.
A girlfriend in her 80s? lol.
2Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:00:17.12ID:kSh7y6Bk0
Apparently there’s a prison there.
22Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:02:50.01ID:nqSkad8d0
>>2
Some prisons don’t have air conditioning, and many inmates die from heatstroke.
Some prisons don’t have air conditioning, and many inmates die from heatstroke.
91Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:12:13.71ID:JKn3I4ZD0
>>2
If you’re over 70, you’re not allowed into prison.
If you’re over 70, you’re not allowed into prison.
4Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:00:37.87ID:hZS4N8gj0
There’s public housing, so it’s no problem. Yes, that’s the argument.
28Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:03:51.36ID:3GyrJk1d0
>>4
I live in a new building run by the semi-public Urban Renaissance Agency, and although it’s a one-room apartment, it has underfloor heating and is spacious and comfortable.
However, there is a large-scale redevelopment project going on right in front of me, so I’m bothered by the loud noise of motorcycle gangs during the day on weekdays.
I live in a new building run by the semi-public Urban Renaissance Agency, and although it’s a one-room apartment, it has underfloor heating and is spacious and comfortable.
However, there is a large-scale redevelopment project going on right in front of me, so I’m bothered by the loud noise of motorcycle gangs during the day on weekdays.
6Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:00:59.10ID:GQZ8gsqc0
If you have assets and a family, the family should do something about it. If you have no assets and no family, work as a live-in employee.
7Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:01:04.11ID:zlUa2s7e0
The momentum is amazing.
8Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:01:17.50ID:8VDI3TME0
There’s a ton of land in the countryside, so buy some and live in your car. I’m sure there are people who would do it for free if they could get rid of the land.
58Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:06:59.50ID:0gBtgmm90
>>8
Can you put your address there?
Can you put your address there?
11Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:01:22.07ID:PdKhURYk0
I hope there are a lot of vacant houses by now lol.
16Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:02:26.58ID:e/9CDK4t0
I lost the neighbor gacha…I want to die.
44Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:05:18.82ID:DCSn4CnV0
>>16
Just buy the land next door.
Just buy the land next door.
18Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:02:42.46
I bet someone will set fire to the place soon. I hope they do lol. If you can’t rent a room, set it on fire and go to prison. It’s the punishment for discrimination. Tragic things like this could happen, so discrimination is absolutely not allowed!
20Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:02:46.22ID:s85262R+0
However, in this case, it would be better to give the child the down payment, take out a loan in the child’s name, and then make the payments yourself. I get the impression that they’re the kind of parents who like to interfere in their kids’ lives but are bad with spending money.
23Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:02:50.76ID:a2m6ZYSH0
Can the lender win this in court?
26Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:03:21.08ID:NVOgA8xQ0
If you have the assets, put it in a nursing home or rental with assisted living. I don’t rent out regular rental properties because landlords lose a lot of money when people die alone.
27Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:03:37.55ID:N1RO+nqa0
When sales slow down in the real estate industry, they resort to all sorts of articles to make people feel anxious about not owning a home and make it embarrassing to live in their parents’ home.
30Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:04:01.41ID:7bzHtWGs0
My parents’ house is in Muroran, but there are a lot of vacant houses. We’ll just have to learn to coexist with the bears.
31Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:04:02.49ID:SstK7J+R0
That’s up to the lender.
32Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:04:05.82ID:wsNsfw1k0
Renting is a luxury.
33Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:04:09.35ID:/C+wTurU0
If you have a pension, you won’t be left without a pension, and if you have a son, he can collect the body. I wish they’d make it a condition to get a Secom with sensors.
46Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:05:38.15ID:nqSkad8d0
>>33
Put a blue tarp on the floor to prevent dirt.
Put a blue tarp on the floor to prevent dirt.
35Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:04:20.80ID:xIFxtH7V0
That’s why we’ve been calling for the quick construction of apartment complexes specifically for people who die alone.
36Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:04:22.55ID:hTW2srVt0
Take care of yourself in your own home.
37Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:04:25.18ID:ZehElDXY0
If you have family homes in rural areas and are currently living in urban areas, will you move back there in the future?
If you continue to live in urban areas, won’t your abandoned family homes become a negative legacy?
If you continue to live in urban areas, won’t your abandoned family homes become a negative legacy?
45Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:05:25.36ID:WWfGYotg0
>>37
There are still loads of them out there.
There are still loads of them out there.
38Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:04:25.32ID:vFfZ46Yv0
Don’t leave your parents’ house in your 30s-50s, because irresponsible women are the ones who are inciting you to leave.
Even if you do leave, the women inciting you to leave won’t take any responsibility.
Rental is only for people in their 20s.
39Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:04:45.30ID:OShCaOH90
Don’t hear about people who are single and live in a high-paying area close to work until retirement, then when they retire, they try to move to the suburbs, but are turned down and continue to live there.
40Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:04:46.30ID:pWw4OcbC0
Once you’re over 60, it’s not surprising that someone comes to pick you up at any time, and especially if you’re single, you’ll probably be turned away.
41Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:04:57.88ID:d+Au7qj50
The elderly have no choice but to live with their children
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Elderly: “That’s true.”
Children: “Living alone means you won’t get senile! It’s important to be self-sufficient!”
Elderly people with families who have nowhere to go.
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Elderly: “That’s true.”
Children: “Living alone means you won’t get senile! It’s important to be self-sufficient!”
Elderly people with families who have nowhere to go.
43Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:05:13.54ID:JPfVaF3s0
I wish they would let them live in vacant houses. Even if it’s found muddy, we can just demolish it.
48“” Guard [lv.7] [Sprout].Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:05:56.91ID:RGFq0sWM0
This is why people are neglecting the safety net and money doesn’t go towards consumption.
49Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:06:11.90ID:IEuVoBBR0
Would it be better to lend it to Mr. Nguyen than to an elderly person?
56Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:06:54.51ID:vFfZ46Yv0
>>49
Nguyen-san lives in a one-room apartment with about 10 other people.
Nguyen-san lives in a one-room apartment with about 10 other people.
50Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:06:28.79ID:BdvACqp10
Of course, if they die within their natural lifespan, it becomes a haunted property.
51Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:06:31.64ID:6sCXgeNp0
Even if they say elderly people are welcome, it’s still scary.
52Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 11:06:32.88ID:V5pmGYFY0
Well, I guess when you get older the only option is a nursing home.
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