As TV networks rehire former Johnny’s talents, Smile-up faces backlash with lawsuits and unresolved victim compensation cases.
1ailuropoda melanoleuca★.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:30:52.74ID:i0c8+J6I9
As TV stations are shifting gears to resume hiring former Johnny’s talents, an unusual situation has arisen in which a former executive of a victims’ group has been sued by the former Johnny’s agency. It directly interviewed the people at the center of the controversy. ***
Last fall, the former Johnny & Associates agency “smile-up.” (hereafter Smile-sha) acknowledged the sexual assault allegations by the late Johnny Kitagawa and apologized. Since then, as of the end of October this year, compensation terms had been agreed upon with 524 victims. “More than 1,000 people have reported the damage so far, but for many of them we have been unable to contact them or to confirm their employment status or the facts of the damage they suffered. “Apart from these victims, we have already reached an agreement with about 97% of those who are eligible for compensation,” (Commercial Broadcasting Station Reporter)
However, there are four victims whose negotiations with the Victim Relief Committee set up by Smile Inc. to handle compensation have not concluded and the matter has moved to mediation. We visited Ishimaru, who lives on welfare…
The only person we couldn’t come to terms with in terms of money was Ishimaru Shimon (57), vice-representative of the “Johnny’s Sexual Abuse Issues Stakeholders’ Association” (disbanded on September 7). “I heard that the difference between the amount of compensation notified by the Relief Committee and the amount requested by Mr. Ishimaru was too large, so a settlement proposal could not be agreed upon. As a result, the arbitration committee instructed Smile to mediate and consider withdrawing the claim, which the company decided to do. At the same time, Smile Inc. filed a lawsuit against Ishimaru on November 5th, seeking confirmation that the debt does not exist.” (The aforementioned reporter) Smile Inc. has consistently shown a willingness to pay compensation, but the gap with Ishimaru’s claims is impossible to bridge, so they have decided to leave the matter to the court. How much was Ishimaru’s demand, which led to the breakdown in the talks? When we visited Ishimaru, who is currently living in an apartment in Saitama Prefecture while receiving welfare benefits, he revealed for the first time the details of what had happened up until that point. “Moving to Hawaii”
“It is true that the mediation ended in failure over the amount of money. The amount of compensation that Smile initially notified me of was 18 million yen, the same as that given to other victims. In the end, it was increased to 20 million yen, but that is not an acceptable amount,” Ishimaru said, before revealing another shocking fact. “The compensation amount I initially proposed was 1,845,680,320 yen. You may think that this is a high amount, but this is a number that I have a basis for. Joining Johnny’s turned my life into a mess. So we calculated what she would have earned in her lifetime if she had gotten a regular job without joining Johnny’s, and what she would have earned if she had continued to work at Johnny’s without being sexually assaulted, and we recorded the median of these as her lost earnings,” said Ishimaru.
This came to about 500 million yen, and she also said she had included the cost of moving overseas. “One of our members was pushed down the stairs by someone after coming forward with a complaint. I also have a cracked face and live in constant fear for my safety. Since I have experience studying abroad in the United States, if possible I would like to move to Hawaii, which is close to Japan, and live a safe and secure life. The costs of relocating included the $1.05 million (approximately 160 million yen) required to obtain permanent residency (green card).” (ibid.)
Additional costs, apparently totaling 1.8 billion yen… “If there is a reason to be convinced that 20 million yen is acceptable.” However, Ishimaru later gave up on his plans to move to Hawaii and gradually lowered his requested amount to 900 million yen, then 400 million yen. “The former Johnny’s Entertainment Agency was supposed to be offering ‘compensation beyond the law.’ But in the end, compensation is only provided within the framework of the law. “I am also willing to accept the 20 million yen offered by Smile if there is a convincing reason for it,” (Ishimaru) said.
I also asked Smile about the reasons for filing the lawsuit, but they responded, “We will refrain from commenting on individual cases out of respect for privacy.” Even if the matter is settled in court, there is a big difference in the amount of compensation that each side is considering. It looks like it will take some time. Related threads
Shimon Ishimaru, former vice president of the “Stakeholders’ Association,” asks for “400 million yen” as the minimum agreed-upon amount for compensation, but to no avail… Smile Inc. has filed a lawsuit against him, leaving him with “a hole in his heart” [muffin★].
Last fall, the former Johnny & Associates agency “smile-up.” (hereafter Smile-sha) acknowledged the sexual assault allegations by the late Johnny Kitagawa and apologized. Since then, as of the end of October this year, compensation terms had been agreed upon with 524 victims. “More than 1,000 people have reported the damage so far, but for many of them we have been unable to contact them or to confirm their employment status or the facts of the damage they suffered. “Apart from these victims, we have already reached an agreement with about 97% of those who are eligible for compensation,” (Commercial Broadcasting Station Reporter)
However, there are four victims whose negotiations with the Victim Relief Committee set up by Smile Inc. to handle compensation have not concluded and the matter has moved to mediation. We visited Ishimaru, who lives on welfare…
The only person we couldn’t come to terms with in terms of money was Ishimaru Shimon (57), vice-representative of the “Johnny’s Sexual Abuse Issues Stakeholders’ Association” (disbanded on September 7). “I heard that the difference between the amount of compensation notified by the Relief Committee and the amount requested by Mr. Ishimaru was too large, so a settlement proposal could not be agreed upon. As a result, the arbitration committee instructed Smile to mediate and consider withdrawing the claim, which the company decided to do. At the same time, Smile Inc. filed a lawsuit against Ishimaru on November 5th, seeking confirmation that the debt does not exist.” (The aforementioned reporter) Smile Inc. has consistently shown a willingness to pay compensation, but the gap with Ishimaru’s claims is impossible to bridge, so they have decided to leave the matter to the court. How much was Ishimaru’s demand, which led to the breakdown in the talks? When we visited Ishimaru, who is currently living in an apartment in Saitama Prefecture while receiving welfare benefits, he revealed for the first time the details of what had happened up until that point. “Moving to Hawaii”
“It is true that the mediation ended in failure over the amount of money. The amount of compensation that Smile initially notified me of was 18 million yen, the same as that given to other victims. In the end, it was increased to 20 million yen, but that is not an acceptable amount,” Ishimaru said, before revealing another shocking fact. “The compensation amount I initially proposed was 1,845,680,320 yen. You may think that this is a high amount, but this is a number that I have a basis for. Joining Johnny’s turned my life into a mess. So we calculated what she would have earned in her lifetime if she had gotten a regular job without joining Johnny’s, and what she would have earned if she had continued to work at Johnny’s without being sexually assaulted, and we recorded the median of these as her lost earnings,” said Ishimaru.
This came to about 500 million yen, and she also said she had included the cost of moving overseas. “One of our members was pushed down the stairs by someone after coming forward with a complaint. I also have a cracked face and live in constant fear for my safety. Since I have experience studying abroad in the United States, if possible I would like to move to Hawaii, which is close to Japan, and live a safe and secure life. The costs of relocating included the $1.05 million (approximately 160 million yen) required to obtain permanent residency (green card).” (ibid.)
Additional costs, apparently totaling 1.8 billion yen… “If there is a reason to be convinced that 20 million yen is acceptable.” However, Ishimaru later gave up on his plans to move to Hawaii and gradually lowered his requested amount to 900 million yen, then 400 million yen. “The former Johnny’s Entertainment Agency was supposed to be offering ‘compensation beyond the law.’ But in the end, compensation is only provided within the framework of the law. “I am also willing to accept the 20 million yen offered by Smile if there is a convincing reason for it,” (Ishimaru) said.
I also asked Smile about the reasons for filing the lawsuit, but they responded, “We will refrain from commenting on individual cases out of respect for privacy.” Even if the matter is settled in court, there is a big difference in the amount of compensation that each side is considering. It looks like it will take some time. Related threads
Shimon Ishimaru, former vice president of the “Stakeholders’ Association,” asks for “400 million yen” as the minimum agreed-upon amount for compensation, but to no avail… Smile Inc. has filed a lawsuit against him, leaving him with “a hole in his heart” [muffin★].
「当事者の会」元副代表・石丸志門氏、補償金最低合意額として「4億円お恵み下さい」も虚しく… SMILE社から訴状届き「心に穴ぽっかり」 [muffin★]
5ちゃんねるの芸能・音楽・スポーツニュース速報での議論に参加しましょう:「「当事者の会」元副代表・石丸志門氏、補償金最低合意額として「4億円お恵み下さい」も虚しく… SMILE社から訴状届き「心に穴ぽっかり」 」。
「ハワイへの移住費など18億円を要求」 SMILE-UP.に提訴された、「当事者の会」元副代表の言い分 「ハワイで安全に暮らそうと」 | デイリー新潮
テレビ各局が相次いで旧ジャニーズタレントの起用再開にかじを切る中、被害者団体の元幹部が旧ジャニーズ事務所から提訴されるという異例の事態を迎えている。…
50Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:50:15.99ID:NwwB5ETP0
>>1
This might be an aftereffect.
This might be an aftereffect.
70Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:54:30.73ID:zB/TAvxV0
>>1
You can ask for Hawaii or whatever, but get to work!
Whether it’s a convenience store, a care home, or a food store, people are saying that no one is coming.
You can ask for Hawaii or whatever, but get to work!
Whether it’s a convenience store, a care home, or a food store, people are saying that no one is coming.
2Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:31:36.69ID:Ttlzja9A0
This is called extortion.
3Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:32:15.34ID:N/9kfmtT0
I wonder if 20 million yen is the legal limit.
5Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:34:53.62ID:MqtSO77G0
Ishimaru whirlwind.
6Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:35:17.05ID:7Njacw6x0
Even if the old man were to still be alive and a criminal case were made and civil compensation sought, he wouldn’t be able to get much. It’s going too far to take 1.8 billion yen from someone who has offered to compensate without considering the statute of limitations for civil and criminal cases.
7Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:35:52.08ID:qgxb5vJY0
Too greedy lol.
8Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:36:15.54ID:loMW3twT0
Johnny’s should be thankful to this guy.
10Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:37:30.58ID:AieK7Orf0
Are you a yakuza lol?
11Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:38:01.77ID:mz44PRhD0
After reading this article, you will understand why Urawa and Omiya have been in constant conflict for so long.
13Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:38:48.09ID:tsXFiESp0
As you’d expect from a former Johnny’s member, he would make a claim for “Tarareba.”
14Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:39:02.63ID:JqwB9HRN0
Hawaii lol.
16Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:39:35.59ID:l//U11KK0
In America, I think you could go to court and get around 200 million yen, and in Japan it might be around 30 million.
17Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:39:40.98ID:5q4MASzF0
I knew it wasn’t much compared to the amount of money the more popular members made, so I decided to ask.
18Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:39:47.70ID:BSamRzMv0
It probably wouldn’t be possible in a Japanese trial, but it would be possible in an American trial. Did Johnny take her to America at the time?
19Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:39:50.94ID:yah69x8Q0
> The median of her lifetime salary if she had a normal job and if she had continued to work smoothly at Johnny’s without being sexually assaulted was calculated
> It seems to be about 500 million yen
Hmm… I think she’s overestimating herself.
> It seems to be about 500 million yen
Hmm… I think she’s overestimating herself.
43Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:48:48.84ID:eH1J5khS0
>>19
The average salaryman earns around 200-300 million yen
So if you take the median amount for a successful Johnny’s member, isn’t that about right?
20Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:40:07.08ID:14lgmAiL0
20 million isn’t attractive at all when you think about the fact that your welfare benefits will be cut off lol.
21Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:40:26.25ID:FLlOcA6b0
That’s not how lost profits are calculated.
22Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:41:11.52ID:95bvNf1e0
Isn’t it based on the fact that about 97% of people agree?
23Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:41:13.29ID:balClvB/0
As is the case with Bunshun, this is what happens when you get greedy.
24Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:41:44.09ID:/j1xyT9G0
Victim business.
25Security guard [lv.28].Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:41:44.72ID:vxiWKopL0
They’re trying to damage Ishimaru Hiroya’s reputation.
26Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:41:50.07ID:PDgI8OeE0
If there are 1,000 people, there will be one or two people like this.
27Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:41:57.63ID:mqK2OurM0
Ishimaru looks like TKO Kinoshita.
28Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:42:10.61ID:RVOl108F0
Why is this welfare grandpa being attacked?
He got 1.8 billion yen for a big lie! So he’s being attacked by his shady part-time job because illegality is justice lol.
He got 1.8 billion yen for a big lie! So he’s being attacked by his shady part-time job because illegality is justice lol.
29Security guard [lv.28].Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:43:11.94ID:vxiWKopL0
I want celebrities to take over Slam Dunk, Demon Slayer, etc. →Just run a negative campaign with the same surname.
30Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:44:05.20ID:ujK6rARl0
Now I have no choice but to legally talk to this guy. Well, it’s past the statute of limitations so it’ll probably cost me nothing.
31Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:44:28.82ID:l//U11KK0
I think that’s a totally plausible number if he was one of the candidates for SMAP.
32Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:44:38.20ID:mqK2OurM0
This guy has never worked before (´^ω^`;).
34Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:45:45.70ID:0QUKnOkI0
How many people do you think will gather? lol
What a bunch of scum.
What a bunch of scum.
35Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:45:58.84ID:mqK2OurM0
Something Renho might say: Ishimaru doesn’t understand anything about society.
36Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:46:03.15ID:7pIcyCNP0
With things like this mixed up, it’s no wonder there’s trouble for the victims’ association.
37Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:46:11.19ID:bVUMqlhn0
Why did this guy think he could win 1.8 billion yen by himself, which is more than a lottery ticket?
38Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:46:20.87ID:FiHtBuK10
It’s so trashy it’s disgusting.
40Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:46:47.75ID:nDy0EAlJ0
Even comfort women didn’t earn that much 😡😡😡.
41Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:47:23.49ID:eH1J5khS0
I think 1.8 billion is too much, but 20 million is cheap. Even though they have to pay other things, one person’s life is probably ruined.
61Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:51:49.32ID:psiFhWbV0
>>41
If you say that, you’ll have to pay 1.8 billion yen in compensation lol
I was bullied in the past, so my life is ruined. I’m not asking you to pay 1.8 billion yen lol.
If you say that, you’ll have to pay 1.8 billion yen in compensation lol
I was bullied in the past, so my life is ruined. I’m not asking you to pay 1.8 billion yen lol.
42Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:47:50.38ID:kCyujDku0
Well, you’re free to wish for whatever you want.
45Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:48:52.05ID:dFkdsVMy0
In legal terms, Johnny was not arrested as a rapist, so Smile has no legal obligation to pay compensation.
46Anonymous @I’m sorry.Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:48:54.34ID:1Ts35aR60
Ishimaru Shimon’s plea for 400 million yen is in vain… Smile Inc. has filed a lawsuit, leaving him with “a hole in his heart.”
石丸志門氏「4億円お恵み下さい」も虚しく… SMILE社から訴状届き「心に穴ぽっかり」(東スポWEB) - Yahoo!ニュース
ジャニーズ性加害問題当事者の会(現在は解散)で副代表を務めた石丸志門氏のもとに、SMILE―UP.(以下、スマイル社)から19日付で訴状が届いたことが分かった。 石丸氏が被害者救済委員会から通
48Guard [lv.44].Nov. 23, 2024 (Sat) 12:49:20.01ID:/oBwm06h0
This is why we have welfare benefits.
Other languages:「ハワイへの移住費など18億円を要求」SMILE-UP.に提訴された、「当事者の会」元副代表石丸の言い分「ハワイで安全に暮らそうと」, “Exigir 1.800 millones de yenes para mudarse a Hawai, etc.” Ishimaru, ex vicepresidente de la “Asociacion de Partes Interesadas”, presento una demanda contra smile-up, diciendo “Quiero vivir con seguridad en Hawai”. ’’
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