“Is greetings really that important?” The anguish of a middle manager in his 50s who is troubled by how to deal with subordinates who can’t use honorific language or greet others.

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0001Mr.Shoko★.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:28:30.56ID:i8cxjQ+A9
“Is greetings really that important?” – shocking bombshell! A middle manager in his 50s worries about how to treat subordinates who can’t use honorific language or greetings, saying, “Young people these days don’t want to say that…” (Forza Style) – Yahoo!News
7/26 (Fri) 7:17am
What do you think about subordinates who can’t use honorific language? Crisis management consultant Toshiki Hiratsuka says this. “There was an article about a female celebrity calling a senior singer by his first name. I actually watched the show, and there were some really nasty things going on. People talk about diversity and the freedom not to greet others, but I think there is still some courtesy that we should have as human beings.” It is certainly an essential element in building good human relationships. (Omitted)
“It’s pretty tough being a middle manager, living between the younger generation and the higher-ups.” The person who said this shyly is Suzuki Shinya (pseudonym, 52 years old). “I don’t want to say anything about young people these days, but I do feel a difference in common sense and a generation gap.” We live in an age where even a single message on LINE can be considered harassment. “. In our day, it was unthinkable that wearing a mask could be considered harassment. However, if that is said to be the current common sense, then we are required to respond in accordance with it as much as possible. It really is tough to be caught in the middle.” Among all these employees, the one who gives Shinya the most trouble is 28-year-old male employee A. “There are so many things to point out, I’m really at my wit’s end. Being free-spirited may sound nice, but it’s really a lack of manners. This is not a school, it’s a company. I’d like to ask the person who interviewed him why they chose to hire someone like that. However, since it’s a company, they can’t force me to quit. This is my fourth department transfer. I also want to get rid of it as soon as possible.” Judging from the indignation of the seemingly gentle Shinya, it must be pretty bad. “First of all, I really can’t use honorific language. Not only their spoken language, but even their email writing is terrible. It would be fine if it was just a small mistake, but I think they deliberately avoid using it. According to him, it’s about being considerate and not wasting the other person’s time. It’s true that there’s no need to make it unnecessarily long, but surely there is some basic courtesy involved? That was completely ignored. I’m really at my wit’s end.” Amidst all this, the one thing Shinya continues to say he wants to improve is greetings. “Even when we bumped into each other in the morning in the lobby, he didn’t greet me, probably because he had headphones on and couldn’t hear me. Of course, they don’t completely ignore you around the desk, but their greetings are in a mosquito-like voice. There’s nothing to see.” By the way, it’s not just Shinya who is not greeted, but all of the employees. As more and more members began to question the response, and Shinya himself became very concerned, he asked about the true meaning of it. Then came the surprising answer. -Huh? Are greetings really that important?
Shinya was apparently speechless. In the second part, we will look into the even more shocking statements made by Mr. A. Interview and text by Yuuki Ritsu
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「挨拶とか意味あります?」20代部下の爆弾発言に衝撃。今どきの若者はなんて言いたくないけれど…「自分らしさ」を履き違えた若者の末路(FORZA STYLE) - Yahoo!ニュース
敬語が使えない部下についてあなたはどう思うだろうか?危機管理コンサルタントの平塚俊樹氏はこう話す。 「ある女性タレントが目上の大御所歌手を呼び捨てにしていたことを取り上げた記事がありました。私も実
【続きはこちら】「俺らしくやっちゃダメっすか?」挨拶に意味はないと断言する20代部下に悪戦苦闘。巷に蔓延る「自分らしさ」の真意を問う
【前編のあらすじ】鈴木真也さん(仮名・52歳)は、28歳の部下に手を焼いていると話す。「イマドキの若いやつはなんて言いたくはないんです」と控えめな真也さんをもイラつかせるのは、挨拶をしない、敬語が使…
0002Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:29:09.74ID:gse+BFgx0
(´・ω・`)Good morning you guys.
0009Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:32:18.84ID:HcVAWEJd0
>>2
Good morning(´・ω・`).
0059Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:42:18.61ID:pk87P9GN0(1/3)
>>2
Yessss (´・ω・`).
0004Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:31:06.52ID:KiXlSJXR0
If you spend about two years in the Self-Defense Forces as part of your new recruit training, that will fix it.
0054Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:40:57.42ID:8bV1MQCm0(1/2)
>>4
I’ll quit, or rather, I’ll run away.
0005Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:31:31.14ID:LFS8Utam0
That’s the company that hired me.
0006Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:31:33.80ID:JJVhXrLk0
The kind of person who is always walking while looking at their smartphone.
0008Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:32:08.81ID:NudH7PBN0
Lament your own inadequacy for having to work for a company where people like that can get a job. The level of the people around you is your level.
0010Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:32:21.06ID:I/Y1/9jQ0
Are people in their 50s middle managers?
0062Security Guard [lv.6] [Sprout].Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:43:25.07ID:HLajKWWp0
>>10
General managers, section chiefs, section chiefs, and supervisors are middle managers.
0013Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:32:37.49ID:HeOK3fSa0
That’s the kind of education they teach in compulsory education.
0082Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:45:57.11ID:wQrmwP3Y0(1/3)
>>13
It’s a matter of discipline.
In the past, people would say things like “I want to know where you’re from” or “I want to see your parents’ faces,” but now the parents don’t know what’s embarrassing about this anymore, so it’s all over now.
0014Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:33:07.57ID:1saTh5la0
When a country sinks, it means it’s sinking from within. You’re a defeated nation, so give up.
0015Security Guard [lv.25].Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:33:19.97ID:OuIC1NvP0(1/2)
No need to match?
0017Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:33:48.56ID:nFCxU9AW0
There are many bosses who are unable to greet people cheerfully.
0020Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:34:18.39ID:nE6D47ac0
Is this also a kind of ice age bullying?

Even if you survive, it’s hell.

0022Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:34:28.06ID:8PTv99w00
Before you know it, you’ll be overtaken by your juniors and looked down upon, and you’ll be gone.
0024Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:34:30.89ID:iJu/WhsJ0
If you can’t say hello to people close to you, you’d be afraid to let them meet business partners.
0026Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:34:34.04ID:qNDaU2hl0
I think there’s no harm in just saying hello first.
0027Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:34:41.89ID:7aQAKIbu0
I’m neglecting my child’s upbringing. It’s him who suffers. By the time you realize it, it’s too late.
0037Security Guard [lv.25].Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:37:37.16ID:OuIC1NvP0(2/2)
>>27
Cool!
0032Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:36:42.95ID:bfvoWy6S0
Well, it’s an expression of intent that says “I will follow the hierarchy in human groups” lol. In human relationships in this country, “hierarchy” – that is, “king or slave” – ​​is the most important thing, and “children” who don’t understand this are basically rejected.
0033Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:36:53.67ID:GcfqKiIq0
If you are confident in your abilities, you can just go about your life without having to greet people openly.
0034Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:36:56.62ID:KirtF3VM0
Are big name singers great?
0035Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:37:22.49ID:O3Oa7/NG0
New employee: “Boss, your breath stinks.”
Manager: “Hey… you…!”
President: (Wow, this kid is a big shot.)
0083Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:45:58.63ID:UEjkv/Gs0
I guess they expect or even prescribe this kind of flow >>35
In reality, it’s more like the manager says “What’s wrong with this guy…”, the president says “What’s wrong with this guy…”, and the client says “What’s wrong with this guy…”.
0036Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:37:37.15ID:/VsEWotf0
No, it’s not just young people who feel this way lol. There are bosses who never return greetings.
0038Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:37:42.58ID:K2Nz9KMv0
Greetings are important! That’s what the Kojiki says.
0041Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:38:23.46ID:FBIE2sXK0
Is this subordinate okay? Has he been living on a deserted island this whole time?
0042Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:38:29.65ID:POjSEcwP0(1/2)
Parental discipline.
0044Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:39:05.86ID:ZI8J41DG0
If my subordinate did this to me, I would probably do the same thing. Everyone at my workplace is good at greeting people, so it’s not a problem.
0045Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:39:45.80ID:OJ/f7czU0
There are quite a few people who don’t respond when you say hello. It happens especially when there’s no one else around. It’s good because it gives you an idea of ​​their character.
0046Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:39:46.64ID:e/kWd9eY0
He doesn’t realize that greetings can actually help protect him. This guy is missing out.
0110Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:49:53.44ID:pk87P9GN0(2/3)
>>46
That’s it.
0050Anonymous Donburako.Jul. 26, 2024 (Fri) 07:40:03.56ID:q3RI1mYz0
This is poor personnel management. Fire him immediately.
Reference: https://asahi.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1721946510

Other languages: 「挨拶ってそんなに重要っすか?」…敬語も挨拶も使えない部下の扱いに…悩む50代中間管理職の苦悩

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