Honda and Nissan’s integration talks highlight over 9,000 overlapping partners. Restructuring and supply chain optimization expected.
1Flea market ★.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:14:17.44ID:Od6eY+Xo9
According to Teikoku Databank by the 24th, there are over 9,000 domestic companies, including parts manufacturers, that have business relationships with both Honda and Nissan Motor, which have announced they are entering into discussions about a business integration. In the memorandum of understanding, the two companies stated that they would work to “optimize the supply chain,” which may lead to accelerated restructuring and integration of subcontractors and other entities in the future. According to Teikoku Data, the automotive industry has a broad base, with the two companies’ supply chains numbering more than 40,000 companies in total. Of these, 9,242 companies overlap, with 4,507 companies (about half) having sales of between 100 million yen and 1 billion yen, and 1,752 companies (about 20%) having sales of less than 100 million yen. In addition to rising prices and labor shortages, subcontractors are also struggling to survive as the global development race over electric vehicles (EVs) and other technologies accelerates. If Honda and Nissan go ahead with their business integration, they will be forced to standardize their standards and review their contracts, which could lead to more mergers and acquisitions (M&A). At a press conference on the 23rd, Honda President Toshihiro Mibe emphasized, “We cannot proceed with (optimization) until we have had various discussions and our (business partners) are satisfied.” They indicated their intention to continue careful dialogue while taking into consideration the circumstances of each company. Teikoku Data points out that “manufacturers are required to take into consideration the market environment, comply with the Subcontracting Act, and establish fair trading conditions.” Jiji Press, Economic Department, Published on December 24, 2024 at 9:01pm.
ホンダ・日産、取引先の再編加速も 9000社超が重複―帝国データ:時事ドットコム
帝国データバンクが24日までに明らかにしたところによると、経営統合の協議入りを表明したホンダと日産自動車の双方と取引関係のある国内企業は、部品メーカーなど9000社超。両社は基本合意書で「サプライチェーン(供給網)の最適化」に取り組むとして...
2Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:15:03.08ID:RwLukrLm0
Honda Leopard.
3Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:15:30.99ID:DU5ZeNjT0
It’s going to be tough from now on.
4Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:15:37.18ID:jdIN649O0
We don’t need Nissan’s subcontractors or factories, and we don’t need Nissan’s dealers or sales people either.
20Guard [lv.12] [Bud]:0.00089932.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:25:40.88ID:GeFthshG0
>>4
Nissan’s management is the worst.
Nissan’s management is the worst.
6Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:16:30.44ID:zJuWoXQL0
It’s a pretty tough industry for subcontractors, especially Toyota, so I’m sure there will be a lot of companies that get dumped and end up like that.
7Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:18:12.08ID:AhkRIyht0
“Reorganization” is a convenient term, but in essence it’s accelerating bankruptcies.
8Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:18:45.39ID:85V5Nv650
I guess all the suppliers will be Honda.
9Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:19:14.52ID:yM5RL0ub0
That’s what happens.
10Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:20:08.66ID:/Cl1mG800
Since you were being bullied, it’s good to be set free.
12Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:20:33.07ID:OmOZhU/I0
Leave epower alone. They drive with a shitty gap between them and stop without braking.
48Security guard [lv.6].Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:59:25.91ID:/OfBAOEW0
>>12
You can do one-foot even with modern CVTs!
Engine braking is now very effective!
You can do one-foot even with modern CVTs!
Engine braking is now very effective!
55Security Guard [lv.9] [Sprout].Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 08:05:01.02ID:QUpfR+px0
>>12
Look straight ahead. It doesn’t slow down as much as the MT’s engine brake.
Look straight ahead. It doesn’t slow down as much as the MT’s engine brake.
66Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 08:15:42.57ID:EHBnJoii0
>>12
It’s not so much the type of car, it’s the Tama Shonan area
It’s an area where it’s problematic to drive too close together, so I’ve given up.
It’s not so much the type of car, it’s the Tama Shonan area
It’s an area where it’s problematic to drive too close together, so I’ve given up.
13Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:20:37.66ID:FZmvktCT0
This merger is likely to fail, Nissan should just be sold to Taiwan.
14Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:20:56.09ID:tBmRRM1i0
All Nissan employees should retire early.
15Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:23:22.05ID:wwB6eJsk0
Unbelievable baggage.
17Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:24:57.04ID:yF8hYpGS0
Only Toyota will survive.
18Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:25:14.24ID:zI8MgpcQ0
I really feel sorry for Honda and Honda-related companies who have been forced to carry such a heavy burden.
22Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:27:12.26ID:GpzMbfck0
>>18
The stock prices of these three companies are skyrocketing. That’s seriously stupid lol.
The stock prices of these three companies are skyrocketing. That’s seriously stupid lol.
19Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:25:17.59ID:Dq0VxuWg0
Will small and medium-sized local auto parts factories go bankrupt? lol.
23Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:28:14.41ID:H49kFL500
The e-power brake lights are annoying.
25Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:29:47.13ID:EGRJfvXC0
Maybe it’s better to quit. Nissan is already bankrupt. It’s better to let it go bankrupt. It will drag everyone down and everyone will go down together. It’s pointless.
26Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:31:23.67ID:AatbGVvo0
If they were to make the company go bankrupt like JAL did, they could get rid of the shareholders, directors, and subcontractors.
27Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:31:34.07ID:auaCh4AP0
Marrily.
29Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:34:32.91ID:GTZ/ElZR0
They’re only going to set up a new company in a year and a half, and they’re saying with a straight face that they’ll keep each company’s brand. That’s not going to lead to any reforms or improvements to each company. In the end, it’s obvious that they’ll just lose their competitive edge as time passes, dragged down by anti-Nissan forces. The only way to fix this is to consolidate many of the Nissan-affiliated companies.
30Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:34:55.86ID:7y0ICmvV0
Even if there are overlaps, Nissan cars aren’t selling, so parts aren’t selling either. Nissan’s parts store is on the verge of bankruptcy, so they’ll have no choice but to ask Honda’s parts store for some work.
61Security Guard [lv.9] [Sprout].Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 08:08:53.86ID:QUpfR+px0
>>30
Aren’t Honda parts from Korea?
Aren’t Honda parts from Korea?
31Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:35:34.94ID:kZnEwiuc0
It would be better to let the Japanese economy collapse even if it means it hits rock bottom temporarily.
32Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:36:24.25ID:de9NiJQy0
Both companies will inevitably go bankrupt. It’s so mysterious that the stock prices are rising that it’s funny.
33Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:38:39.66ID:lhID6DaL0
Honda has little advantage. Stupid.
35Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:39:35.29ID:zG2IxlVs0
Is this a rephrasing of bankruptcy restructuring?
37Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:41:14.03ID:6Z0mkD8G0
Restructuring has begun, not for business partners but for subcontractors.
38Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:41:38.26ID:YzNGXwKh0
If a company does business with both, it means it’s important to both, so it’s likely that business will continue even after the merger. However, if the company isn’t a parts manufacturer, there’s a chance that business will be cut in half.
39Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:41:48.73ID:5K7/p4zC0
Can they beat BYD, which has started to put humanoid robots into production?
Bring back ASIMO quickly.
Bring back ASIMO quickly.
41Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:44:15.55ID:EHBnJoii0
Will logistics also be integrated?
42Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:46:15.09ID:tfVN8oLi0
Electric vehicles do not have engines and therefore do not require engine oil, which reduces ongoing running costs.
43Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:47:51.09ID:Dyx3n5P70
First, withdraw from F1 and the HondaJet. Next, withdraw from the US and China. Sell motorcycles in Asia and minicars in Japan.
44Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:49:47.59ID:BOQTvY110
From the subcontractor’s perspective, it would have been better if they had been bought by China.
45Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:52:59.17ID:5HaRFLA+0
It’ll be the best Christmas present ever, with a ton of Abe fans losing their jobs. I’m so glad.
46Security Guard [lv.25].Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:54:24.25ID:0c9ewShp0
Selling Honda cars to Nissan customers won’t make much difference.
47Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:58:45.67ID:561qMYJv0
Everyone’s talking about Nissan and Honda, but don’t forget they come with a bonus: Mitsubishi.
50Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:59:45.82ID:1cb5Yh3S0
>>47
It’s probably Nissan rather than Mitsubishi that we don’t need.
It’s probably Nissan rather than Mitsubishi that we don’t need.
51Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 07:59:49.59ID:blRgXZeS0
In fact, it would be beneficial to have overlapping products because they would be able to deliver to both companies at the same standard right away.
If you only do business with one company, you’ll probably get cut off unless your products are exceptionally good.
If you only do business with one company, you’ll probably get cut off unless your products are exceptionally good.
57Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 08:06:49.48ID:YzNGXwKh0
>>51
I hope they’ll be the same standard
I’m curious to see what happens to the wheel nuts
I think how they deal with this will give us a sense of how serious they are about the integration
On the other hand, I think it’ll stick around forever.
I hope they’ll be the same standard
I’m curious to see what happens to the wheel nuts
I think how they deal with this will give us a sense of how serious they are about the integration
On the other hand, I think it’ll stick around forever.
52Security Guard [lv.1] [Sprout].Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 08:02:40.55ID:YVSuTxTM0
Even if Nissan goes bankrupt, it won’t be a big problem for the 9,000 other companies.
53Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 08:03:52.07ID:X4f5K7Gg0
The automobile industry has a wide base.
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