Why Hiroyuki says “People who get angry at welfare recipients have low annual incomes”: “Those with an annual income of around 4 million yen are the most angry”

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0001Green onion udon ★Jul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:26:30.39ID:Fk5RTCIt9
Hiroyuki and Higeoyaji`s co-authored book “A New Way of Life” (Fusosha) is a book born from the YouTube content “Tenkaichi Unemployed Society,” which introduces posts from unemployed people.

Many people are angry at welfare recipients, saying that they are “wasting our hard-earned tax money.” However, the two men question, “How many Japanese people are paying welfare from their own taxes?” What is the true nature of the anger that these two have deduced toward the unemployed and welfare recipients?

“Welfare is tax” – is it really your tax money?

Higeoyaji: There are also people who say about welfare, “That`s our tax money, isn`t it? Don`t waste it!”

Hiroyuki: I wonder how many Japanese people can call welfare money “my tax money”…

Higeoyaji: You`re saying that? I don`t want to hear it. My taxes are paying for welfare (laughs).

Hiroyuki: Of course, there are people who are paying it. But if Japan`s national budget is over 120 trillion yen and there are about 100 million people, then anyone who doesn`t pay more than 1 million yen in taxes per person per year is a burden.
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Hiroyuki: I think negative opinions of the unemployed and those on welfare come from misfortunes in their own lives.
Bearded Old Man: Rich people don`t fight. For example, I think that among people who earn more than 10 million yen a year, the percentage who are angry at people on welfare is quite low.
Hiroyuki: Yes. I think people who earn around 4 million yen a year are the most angry. Because there is no difference between the amount that welfare recipients can spend and their disposable income.
Bearded Old Man: If you look like you`re having fun even though you`re having such a hard time, it makes you look like you`re having fun. People who are unemployed and boast about being on welfare on the internet look like they`re getting carried away. I think they probably do it for entertainment, but I feel like they take it seriously and get angry by focusing only on the parts they don`t like. But if you become friends with an unemployed person, you won`t think anything of it.

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0095Guard [lv.3] [Sprout]Jul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 15:04:14.90ID:g8k0aOjL0
>>1
What? Aren`t you angry that people who can work and foreigners are getting it? Shit.
0002Guard [lv.10] [Sprout]Jul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:27:54.32ID:C1HpKw3b0
Frankly speaking, I have no interest in people on welfare.
0019Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:35:06.61ID:0MYC8Dkk0
>>2
Because there are cases where people who have lived sloppy lives can get more than pensioners who have worked normally and properly?
I can`t forgive that.
0003Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:28:44.08ID:XF9uNltu0
People who are angry at Hiroyuki are because he won the lawsuit but didn`t get any compensation.
0004Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:29:15.02ID:6/yxEx0G0
Of course.
0006Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:30:38.79ID:63tV1Hxm0
I`ve had to pay 3 million yen in taxes, but I`m pissed off at the welfare state pension.
0008Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:31:03.82ID:FYdOl3ma0
Of course.
0009Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:31:04.06ID:vCJ+LuSN0
of course
0012Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:31:54.94ID:lh1Igrv90(1/5)
If you include exemptions and subsidies, it`s worth more than that.
0013Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:32:26.97ID:QRbxBGIe0
The point is, isn`t it wrong to receive benefits fraudulently?
0015Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:32:56.71ID:oSE4Evqa0
>If Japan`s national budget is over 120 trillion yen and there are about 100 million people, then anyone who doesn`t pay more than 1 million yen in taxes per person per year is a burden.

At this point, his way of thinking is already strange, and it`s not about making 4 million yen a year or anything like that. What is this guy?

If you press him, he`ll just say “It`s entertainment” and run away, right? Don`t start a thread about a guy like that.

0016Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:32:58.40ID:gFC/jBvy0
Of course lol
0017Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:33:37.62ID:9ZZwU5qd0
That`s true. People who live comfortably don`t get angry about welfare every time.
0018Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:35:04.60ID:skEdCGdc0
There are too many people who pick up opinions on the internet and say it as if it were their own opinion.
0020Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:35:18.88ID:JFZdmbBo0(1/3)
There`s no evidence for that, right?
0021Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:35:56.41ID:ATCWoO/+0
Is it even permissible to be angry?
0022Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:36:01.03ID:FGWpFN0R0
Since they are a reserve force, wouldn`t it be better to just accept it without getting angry?
0023Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:36:06.01ID:b0RbR2+50
Won`t the baggage rebel?
0024Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:36:16.89ID:lh1Igrv90(2/5)
Conclusion: There`s no way around it
0025Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:36:28.02ID:3Zw2OYoo0
Even though society is short of manpower, the number of people on welfare is increasing. This is because Japan has too high a welfare system, and people can live a better life on welfare. We should abolish the welfare system immediately and make lazy people work.
0114Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 15:12:37.68ID:ymKY4I8P0
>>25
If someone like that were a convenience store owner or a supermarket HR manager,
I wonder if they would hire someone who said they were on welfare.
0027Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:36:39.24ID:baJBpGxA0
The fact that they intentionally did not include the phrase “for foreigners” is malicious.
0028Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:36:42.17ID:AKkCFbMj0(1/2)
I heard that people who get angry at welfare recipients have fixed incomes, and that a rogue YouTuber mentalist who makes money by saying things like “If you have money to feed people on welfare, save cats,” “Homeless people`s lives don`t matter,” “They`re in the way,” and “They stink” has become a debate king YouTuber.
0029Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:36:57.43ID:vQlwQ/D40
I don`t know why, but I was looking at the internet and seeing people angry about welfare and buraku privileges.
0030Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:37:06.35ID:wNxQVp/Z0(2/2)
First of all, can you calculate how much corporate tax you are paying per person for the company you work for?
0031Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:37:38.83ID:F9QWIClF0
Please stop giving it to poor businesses and bad foreigners.
0032Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:37:48.73ID:vjnOWLFC0
Don`t they teach about the existence of corporate tax at Chuo University`s night school?
0033Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:37:50.85ID:MsUpnvRF0
It`s similar to when people with half-baked educations criticize high school graduates.
0034Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:38:03.50ID:bHwJgA+c0
Well, this is true. I don`t have to work now at 900, but it`s tough to live without money to go to a brothel. I want to eat some good unaju.
0036Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:38:17.70ID:fhiA2jBJ0
This guy always says stuff like this without any data. It`s exactly what you think.
0041Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:39:53.46ID:Nljiog450
>>36
Not the king of arguments, but the king of opinions.
0037Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:39:01.49ID:wMhgHHVs0
Is it okay to be angry? What do you want to say?
0038Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:39:04.32ID:cAm6uk0d0
People who work hard even with low income and have taxes taken from them don`t get handouts.
0089Security Guard [lv.18]Jul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 15:00:01.99ID:HYSQguqa0
>>38
Exactly.
I think the hardest part is having a low income that is just barely tax-exempt.
0039Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:39:14.08ID:lh1Igrv90(3/5)
I have no intention of rejecting the welfare system itself.
0040Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:39:33.58ID:DSf4QPig0
Instead of getting angry at welfare recipients, we should get angry at the officials who don`t want them to work. Basically, if you`re a disabled person on welfare, you have no choice, but everyone else can work.
0042Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:40:13.97ID:g9GYAgaZ0
The point is being shifted
0043Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:40:29.55ID:mlKwIu+p0
It`s fine to receive benefits to rebuild your life, but the problem is that once you start receiving benefits, it becomes second nature to live off them, and you stop working again, and it`s also difficult to stop receiving them.
0044Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:40:45.88ID:BNmzgevR0(1/3)
Of course, are they stupid? Tax evasion Abema
0045Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:40:51.45ID:OH4k+hTs0
If you have an annual income of 4 million yen, you wouldn`t be upset about receiving welfare. The people who are really angry are temporary workers and pensioners who earn about the same amount as people on welfare. The people who are most angry are those who work hard for their wages, and after taxes, health insurance, and pension contributions are deducted, their take-home pay is not much different from that of people on welfare.
0046Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:41:07.65ID:GpH0MfIe0
But green juice is crazy?
0047Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:41:20.68ID:BNmzgevR0(2/3)
Abema Asahi to be dismantled

The nerve of mocking the common people

Just like Renho`s supporters

0048Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:41:39.54ID:lh1Igrv90(4/5)
Many activities involve the use of welfare recipients, so there is backlash.
0049Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:42:06.87ID:GaXq7uPf0
I don`t mind if it`s for the Japanese, but I`m pissed off when they use me as a native.
0052Anonymous @I`m sorryJul. 9, 2024 (Tue) 14:42:38.91ID:dpXmUzRf0
Busy people don`t have time to think about welfare. People who are angry are people with too much time on their hands.
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