0001Tarumon ★.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 01:28:38.79ID:F06D+93v9
Why would the Ukrainian army, which has been repeatedly defeated by the Russian army on the vital eastern front, launch a surprise attack in Kursk, far to the north, on the Russian border? Could this be a Russian trap? > As Ukrainian forces continue their advance into Russia’s western Kursk region, speculation is growing about their aims and where their bold operation will lead. Some Russian state media have suggested that an invasion of Russia would be a self-inflicted “trap” for President Volodymyr Zelensky and that Putin would ultimately prevail. Kremlin state media is trying to explain why Ukraine was able to launch such an attack across the border into Russia so easily. For example, in an editorial a week after the Ukrainian military operation began, the state-run RIA Novosti news agency said Russian forces were “in control of the situation.” A day earlier, the pro-Russian government news agency Tsargrad reported that Ukrainian troops had been “trapped” and suffered heavy losses. However, this misrepresentation is at odds with evidence and testimony, including from Russian military bloggers, that points to Ukrainian superiority. Zelensky said on August 15 that Ukrainian forces had captured the town of Suzha, a hub for sending natural gas to the West. Both sides will naturally want to make themselves look good, but so far there is no evidence that the Krajina forces have fallen into a trap. On the other hand, the big question is surely what Ukraine will do next and whether Putin will be able to counter it. ■ “Invasion” as Putin warned: Ukraine is using its most powerful forces, which should be holding back the Russian army’s advance in the Donbas region in the east, to invade Rostov Oblast, far to the north. It’s a dangerous place if the Russians launch an effective counterattack. Michael A. Witt, professor of international business and strategy at King’s Business School in London, said the Ukrainian military “risks overstretching its front, losing valuable personnel and resources and giving Putin the excuse for further escalation.” Putin could use the cross-border attack as domestic justification for the war in Ukraine. He has maintained that Russia launched the invasion of Ukraine because it felt threatened by the West and that Ukraine was a pawn of the West. “There are two opposing forces at work. First, it serves to strengthen the narrative that Russia is under threat. “The ’rallying to power’ effect that occurs during times of national crisis may increase support for Putin,” Witt told Newsweek. “The other, and the opposite, movement is one that casts doubt on whether Putin and his government are the right leader to defend Russia,” he said. “I don’t think there are any clear signs that Putin will lose his power as a ruler, but the end of a dictator often comes suddenly.”
The Russian military’s inability to ward off Ukrainian attacks in Rostov Oblast revealed that Russia lacks reserve forces to defend its territory. Casualties are mounting on the frontlines in eastern and southern Ukraine and troop strength is already declining. The Russian government has implemented preferential treatment, such as increasing compensation for military service, but conscription does not appear to be working. An anonymous source close to the Russian Defense Ministry said new mobilizations could come later this year to replace front-line troops who need rest. In a sense, Ukraine’s cross-border attack fits into Putin’s plans because it gives renewed persuasive force to his long-held argument that Ukraine should not join NATO, says Vik Biksanovic of LSE Ideas, a think tank at the London School of Economics. The real war is in the east and south: Emil Kastehelmi, a military expert at the Finland-based open-source intelligence and analysis firm Black Bird Group, points out that the Ukrainian military is also short on manpower. Therefore, if a cross-border attack such as this one were to be carried out, it could result in the needless waste of valuable human resources for Ukraine. “Capturing a few dozen villages on the Russian border at the expense of many lives and equipment will not help anything,” he told Newsweek. “The obvious conclusion is that this war will not be resolved at Kursk. The most strategically important areas remain eastern and southern Ukraine.” Biksanovic also said it made no sense for Ukrainian forces to launch a cross-border attack when they were “overwhelmed” by Russian forces in Donbas. Even if it would expose the weakness of Russia’s border defenses and the incompetence of the Russian leadership, it would not win the war. (Source below)
Published on 8/19 (Mon) 18:18.
The Russian military’s inability to ward off Ukrainian attacks in Rostov Oblast revealed that Russia lacks reserve forces to defend its territory. Casualties are mounting on the frontlines in eastern and southern Ukraine and troop strength is already declining. The Russian government has implemented preferential treatment, such as increasing compensation for military service, but conscription does not appear to be working. An anonymous source close to the Russian Defense Ministry said new mobilizations could come later this year to replace front-line troops who need rest. In a sense, Ukraine’s cross-border attack fits into Putin’s plans because it gives renewed persuasive force to his long-held argument that Ukraine should not join NATO, says Vik Biksanovic of LSE Ideas, a think tank at the London School of Economics. The real war is in the east and south: Emil Kastehelmi, a military expert at the Finland-based open-source intelligence and analysis firm Black Bird Group, points out that the Ukrainian military is also short on manpower. Therefore, if a cross-border attack such as this one were to be carried out, it could result in the needless waste of valuable human resources for Ukraine. “Capturing a few dozen villages on the Russian border at the expense of many lives and equipment will not help anything,” he told Newsweek. “The obvious conclusion is that this war will not be resolved at Kursk. The most strategically important areas remain eastern and southern Ukraine.” Biksanovic also said it made no sense for Ukrainian forces to launch a cross-border attack when they were “overwhelmed” by Russian forces in Donbas. Even if it would expose the weakness of Russia’s border defenses and the incompetence of the Russian leadership, it would not win the war. (Source below)
Published on 8/19 (Mon) 18:18.
ウクライナ軍のクルスク侵攻はロシアの罠か(ニューズウィーク日本版) - Yahoo!ニュース
ロシア西部クルスク州への侵攻を続けているウクライナ軍について、その目的と大胆な作戦がどこに行き着くのかという臆測が高まっている。一部のロシア国営メディアは、ロシア侵攻は、ウォロディミル・ゼレンスキー
0093Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 07:11:54.49ID:+2Ex3luc0
>>1
If it was a trap
They wouldn’t just leave the T-90M there as a “for free” thing.
If it was a trap
They wouldn’t just leave the T-90M there as a “for free” thing.
0002Security Guard [lv.12] [Sprout].Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 01:31:24.77ID:A43vISQR0
Kongming’s?
0003Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 01:32:24.30ID:fdH6RwK00
A funeral battle?
0005Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 01:34:40.52ID:UyNmRKu40
0006Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 01:35:26.14ID:93j3BE3Z0
I don’t think that’s possible lol.
0007Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 01:35:48.82ID:2v6+IKso0
Lure them in, extend their supply lines, and then completely destroy them. This is Russia’s surefire way to win.
0031Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 02:06:01.99ID:iW+qj/1t0(1/2)
>>7
Napoleon: “That’s a plan”
Hitler: “There’s no way I’d fall for it.”
Napoleon: “That’s a plan”
Hitler: “There’s no way I’d fall for it.”
0053Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 03:44:32.13ID:VJXULoAC0(2/2)
>>7
They did it a few times around the area when they attacked the Audiivka Fortress. They were caught in a fishing net and annihilated by artillery fire during area control. Scary.
They did it a few times around the area when they attacked the Audiivka Fortress. They were caught in a fishing net and annihilated by artillery fire during area control. Scary.
0062Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 04:10:07.87ID:4JgVoDO/0
>>7
I see.
I see.
0073Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 06:11:11.37ID:Kag4UToW0(1/2)
>>7
Currently, the amount of Russian territory Ukraine has acquired is not that large.
If we’re talking about supply lines, the front line has only advanced a dozen kilometers, so the Russian army, which has advanced over 100 kilometers into Ukrainian territory, would be in a state of Guadalcanal by now.
Currently, the amount of Russian territory Ukraine has acquired is not that large.
If we’re talking about supply lines, the front line has only advanced a dozen kilometers, so the Russian army, which has advanced over 100 kilometers into Ukrainian territory, would be in a state of Guadalcanal by now.
0008Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 01:37:32.91ID:P9Ni+qX70
Is this a Stalingrad-style bait-and-switch strategy?
0009Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 01:37:34.52ID:cvQKorpy0
Tadaa! Tadaa!
0010Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 01:38:33.90ID:KBp5YuR+0
Newsweek is like an American area.
0012Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 01:41:33.81ID:jOJ0FA1T0
What kind of a trap is this lol.
0013Security Guard [lv.2] [Sprout].Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 01:43:47.41ID:4YqxSG1z0
A plan to capture bandits at the Kanmon Pass.
0015Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 01:45:22.69ID:WRs3qVdq0
Information war.
0016Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 01:46:11.91ID:9x1urM2C0
It’s probably just a favor to Russia to exchange occupied territories at the end of the war. Russia also wants to stop the war, but if they just withdraw, they will lose. If they exchange the land occupied by Ukraine for the land occupied by Russia, Russia’s reputation will be saved. In that case, Crimea will remain Russian territory.
0017Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 01:48:30.73ID:IiMAAo9r0
There are no more soldiers under my command. Most of the disposable Russian people have been consumed. All that’s left are old soldiers and children.
0018Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 01:49:50.92ID:KVPceZxO0
It’s the Putin Youth.
0019Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 01:50:06.70ID:27KhS/N30(1/4)
Under the pretext of Ukraine’s great rebellion, they have completely taken in three countries that have imposed economic sanctions on Iran, North Korea, and Venezuela. Maybe they were lured in after all?
0020Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 01:52:11.89ID:K3P+xwo60
In history, expanding the front line with a small number of troops has resulted in defeat.
0023Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 01:58:26.05ID:gP+Ic0vl0
Oberstein is on the Russian side!
0024Security Guard [lv.8] [Sprout].Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 01:58:37.04ID:ixYvS7qh0
It’s a trap because our country’s territory has been taken over lol.
0025Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 02:01:53.70ID:yHiJWsn10
Let’s take this opportunity to occupy Odessa and blockade the Ukrainian coastline. Russia is so merciful.
0043Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 02:57:35.20ID:7GzvyeIl0(1/2)
>>25
If they did that, it would be inconsistent with the pretense of it being a special military operation 🤔🤔🤔.
If they did that, it would be inconsistent with the pretense of it being a special military operation 🤔🤔🤔.
0054Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 03:47:23.92ID:Ty+FY2xU0(1/4)
>>25
I was hoping for a chance to invade the southern front, which is stalled at the canal, but it seems a river crossing operation is impossible after all…
>>43
30% of the population of Odessa is of Russian descent, and it is a tragic place where 48 Russian residents were burned alive by Ukrainian neo-Nazi nationalists 10 years ago.
I was hoping for a chance to invade the southern front, which is stalled at the canal, but it seems a river crossing operation is impossible after all…
>>43
30% of the population of Odessa is of Russian descent, and it is a tragic place where 48 Russian residents were burned alive by Ukrainian neo-Nazi nationalists 10 years ago.
0027Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 02:04:45.56ID:HCy1mg6w0
Sending in tanks without any supply lines or air support and doing ping pong dashes is crazy. It’s a Russian trap, or more like a simple suicide bombing.
0028Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 02:04:46.85ID:27KhS/N30(2/4)
The logic goes that since Ukraine used Western weapons to invade Russian territory, Russia should be allowed to use North Korean weapons to retake it.
0029Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 02:05:32.22ID:A1gLhEZ+0
It was a trap but the local residents weren’t notified and over 100 soldiers were taken prisoner?
No way lol.
No way lol.
0049Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 03:27:10.00ID:An5ve+KN0
>>29
So Russia is a country that cares for its citizens and its rank-and-file soldiers
It’s a nice country.
So Russia is a country that cares for its citizens and its rank-and-file soldiers
It’s a nice country.
0092Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 07:08:45.00ID:CzwmDzax0(1/2)
>>29
It’s a country that has no qualms about killing its own citizens in staged terrorist attacks.
It’s a country that has no qualms about killing its own citizens in staged terrorist attacks.
0032Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 02:06:58.30ID:27KhS/N30(4/4)
Economic sanctions imposed by three countries.
0033Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 02:09:33.23ID:ZvyRq5jR0
Even if you’re defending Puanon, this isn’t true lol. He said that he was pissed because the Russian side hadn’t given Pu any information.
0035Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 02:11:58.98ID:2kKy5kCx0
Huh?
How can it be a trap when you’re the one who committed the terrorist act?
How can it be a trap when you’re the one who committed the terrorist act?
0037Security guard [lv.14].Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 02:16:12.12ID:p9j5qP3O0
“By moving in line with the Olympics, the West, especially America, will automatically remember that Russia is an enemy.” Let’s consider this as their intention. Russia needed to be second in the number of gold medals at the Olympics. If Russia loses by default, America will have no regrets. Second place should be China, right? It’s strange that China is becoming a target for America.
0041Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 02:36:41.57ID:EGjuiPux0
Are articles like this being published in preparation for the withdrawal of Ukrainian troops?
0042Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 02:36:49.61ID:qJKS5Q6p0
I kind of had that feeling too.
0045Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 03:05:30.21ID:lT4efp4m0
It was later called the Ukrainian Pearl Harbor… ahem.
0046Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 03:10:40.99ID:F6cyTyle0
Russia has been in a bad state since the beginning, and nothing has changed since. Now they’ve just been exposed to that.
0047Security Guard [lv.4] [Sprout].Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 03:23:04.43ID:RTcyj4u+0
It’s like when, in Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Reinhard led the Alliance deep into Imperial territory, dividing them and destroying them.
0050Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 03:36:57.53ID:9PuMoYef0(1/2)
If we advance too far without any resistance, we will likely enter into a deadly situation.
0055Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 03:48:41.13ID:9VZORiEV0
Russia doesn’t seem to have the quality to plan such a strategy.
0056Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 03:52:16.46ID:oqZ3yp270
Bridges and things like that have been knocked down, what are we going to do now?
0059Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 04:00:19.57ID:o50fZJnV0
If this is true, any success in Ukraine will become a trap for Russia, and it looks like a complete defeat.
0061Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 21, 2024 (Wed) 04:06:24.36ID:ZRFSxHJE0
If Russia had the brains to come up with such a strategy, the war would have ended long ago.
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