Russian troops get caught in “kill zone” in Kursk Oblast, suffering heavy losses false information from commanders may have been a factor, as the Russians entered the zone without removing mines left by Ukrainian troops.

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1Sesame Amberjack★.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:24:39.88ID:f7lftYDm9
It has been a week since Russian forces launched a new counteroffensive to eliminate a salient of about 650 square kilometers held by Ukrainian forces in the Kursk Oblast in western Russia. While the Russian military has suffered heavy casualties, it has so far achieved few notable results. Russian forces recaptured the village of Pogrebki at the northern end of the salient. But that will be little consolation to the hundreds of Russian soldiers who lost their lives in a failed assault on the northwestern perimeter of the salient. For Russia, there are two problems. One reason is that there are only a limited number of roads entering the protrusion from the north or west. Russian forces have been repelled along these roads in the past, yet continue to attack along the same roads every day. Another is that Russian commanders appear to have in some cases not provided their troops with accurate information about the disposition of Ukrainian troops within the salient. This means that Russian attacks have become predictable and blind. This would obviously result in huge losses. By the 13th, Ukrainian military drone pilot Kriegsforcher, who is supporting the defense of Kursk Oblast, had confirmed damage to 88 Russian military vehicles. The remains of the vehicles appear to be lying on or near three major roads that run through the area of ​​Zelyany Shulyakh, a settlement in the mid-zone of the northwestern flank of the salient. Eleven of the vehicles were lost on the 13th to the Russian Army’s 51st Guards Airborne Regiment, 155th Separate Guards Naval Infantry Brigade, 83rd Separate Airborne Assault Brigade, and 810th Separate Naval Infantry Brigade. There is no doubt that the damage will continue to increase in the future. Kriegsforcher said the Russians “attack every day in AFVs (armored fighting vehicles).” Usually it’s four to six vehicles per attack.” Ukrainian troops including the 17th Separate Heavy Mechanized Brigade, the 41st and 47th Separate Mechanized Brigades, and the 95th Separate Airborne Assault Brigade are engaging Russian forces with mines, artillery, missiles, drones and tanks. The fighting on the 9th was reportedly very close and chaotic, with Kriegsforcher reporting that at times, two Ukrainian tanks and four Russian armored vehicles passed each other closely without noticing each other. Kriegsforcher explained that the Ukrainian tanks only became aware of their presence once the Russian vehicles had unloaded 15 assault soldiers, destroying one of them. ■Military blogger criticizes local command for lying again. It is possible that the crew of these Russian military vehicles were acting based on inaccurate information. Consider the attack by the 810th Naval Infantry Brigade around Pogrebki on the 7th. Drone footage showed several of the brigade’s BTR-82 armored personnel carriers being blown up at close range by Ukrainian troops holed up in the trenches. According to an introduction and translation by Estonian analyst wartranslated, Russian military blogger Romanov criticized the footage, saying, “What we see in the video is the result of another lie by the local command to the General Staff.” Commanders of the 810th Naval Infantry Brigade had reportedly told their superiors that the Russians were in control of the road through Pogrebki. “After receiving this information, the General Staff naturally ordered an assault on the village,” Romanov wrote. In reality, the Russians did not control the road. Mines laid by Ukrainian forces remained, but according to Romanov, no one from the 810th Naval Infantry Brigade made any attempt to clear them before sending in the BTRs. These problems are systemic for the 810th Naval Infantry Brigade, if not other nearby units. Romanov said the brigade’s headquarters “has made a habit of deliberately sending false information to the General Staff.” *Continue reading in the source.

ロシア軍、クルスク州で「キルゾーン」にはまり損害続出 指揮官の偽情報も一因か(Forbes JAPAN) - Yahoo!ニュース
ロシア西部クルスク州でウクライナ軍が保持する650平方kmほどの突出部を排除するため、ロシア軍が新たな反攻に乗り出して1週間が経過した。ロシア軍は凄まじい人的損害を被る一方、これまでのところ目立った
11Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:29:30.05ID:cBAqfOlz0
>>1
I guess it’s starting to get a little bitter.
64Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 20:00:08.09ID:uodyWHLV0
>>1
Forbes Japan publisher and editor-in-chief Takano Makoto (former Goldman Sachs) is spewing fake news from David Axe (a self-proclaimed military blogger) on a daily basis.
I hope he will be able to send hell to Forbes Japan.
2Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:26:20.44ID:2wFKiPwK0
Putin: “Help Trump.”
3Security guard [lv.27].Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:26:23.07ID:vtRgaCgv0
How long will these ridiculous Imperial Headquarters announcements continue?
6Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:27:13.01ID:b9XIBZu00
>>3
How long are you going to keep up this ridiculous defense?
9Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:28:15.15ID:fUezRPA20
>>3
You were pretty excited.
4Anonymous donburako rolling around.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:26:45.57ID:otHIPMnO0
Scattering zone.
5Anonymous donburako rolling around.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:26:43.07ID:sPUD8F3u0
Trump: “Go Russia!”
7Anonymous donburako rolling around.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:27:31.20ID:Ie6HyokN0
The Russian army is amazing, as they continue to expand their territory despite losing battle after battle.
8Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:28:06.58ID:iDZUq1G10
What happened to the North Korean soldiers?
13Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:30:29.64ID:UpPFHRMT0
>>8
You won’t be able to return to your homeland alive.
22Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:35:02.81ID:6g7Y7Mpx0
>>8
Apparently he’s watching pornographic content on the internet
He has almost no internet literacy so he might be putting his troops at risk.
26Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:38:18.23ID:e0IsGZGR0
>>8
Maybe he defected from North Korea.
86Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 20:14:40.55ID:NT7EEiAu0
>>8
They are doing a great job in removing landmines.
10Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:28:44.72ID:mJXfH3Fs0
It’s called “Killing Room”. I read it in Sengoku.
12Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:30:25.39ID:H+FHvcvs0
Super Killzone is super hot.
14Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:30:59.93ID:5b4XVW7u0
I learned it from Rim World.
15Security Guard [lv.15].Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:31:09.08ID:LzYiNvok0
Russia’s daily war death toll exceeded 1900. Around this time last year, it was reported that even 1000 was an awful lot. So of course if you use human wave tactics to force your way into a place where you’re lying in wait, there will be a lot of dead people. And the ones charging at Kursk right now are North Korean soldiers, so Russia doesn’t really care if they die. So of course they’re going to be treated roughly.
89Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 20:17:18.57ID:9r4O+lZg0
>>15
It’s crazy that in just under two months the number of Japanese deaths will surpass those of the Russo-Japanese War.
18Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:33:17.09ID:AxUgPvBS0
Top Gun Maverick is on Friday Roadshow today.
20Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:33:51.13ID:qN2h+uJ+0
>>18
It wasn’t that great.
36Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:43:13.01ID:otHIPMnO0
>>20
Too long.
52Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:52:39.31ID:DNmz3/hK0
>>20
It looked pretty good in 4dx.
21Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:34:12.47ID:GI5yZdlu0
How long are you going to keep doing this? Let’s stop the fire already.
23Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:35:38.01ID:4fEc/XKC0
Burn it down with the Dragon Drone!
25Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:36:56.32ID:UwGj/3P40
Landmines, landmines.
28Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:40:25.88ID:B1Hbq3Em0
Of course, there was no tactic such as “killing space” during the Sengoku period, and the source of the material is this Killzone.
29Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:40:30.62ID:RPH2+tul0
Trump will be in office soon, so give him the ability to attack enemy bases.
30Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:40:57.69ID:As8oQZqD0
Ukraine seems to be under pressure in the east, but unless they push back here there’s no “victory” to be had.
32Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:41:29.77ID:bRn6fzdd0
I doubt any of the North Korean soldiers will return home safe.
37Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:43:32.24ID:ZUA+34bk0
>>32
You’ll go home as a god of war.
33Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:42:10.04ID:HjLNicwy0
From Russia’s perspective, it is North Korean soldiers who step on landmines and have them removed.
34Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:42:40.01ID:cmn9BMzM0
The one supported by Sesame Amberjack will lose lol.
35Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:42:46.68ID:1nmXuWKg0
The war between Ukraine and Israel has shown us that Western media cannot be trusted either.
38Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:43:50.67ID:fDHcBy4H0
I think there would be less damage if we broke through all at once rather than launching sporadic attacks.
42Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:46:40.71ID:VJ6PViVD0
The ones charging now are all North Korean soldiers.
43Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:47:07.29ID:yB4oGFcJ0
Just knowing that Forbes is a source gives you a good idea of ​​how intelligent a person is.
44Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:47:10.67ID:cY2CAksY0
I thought Killzone was a word invented by Guerrilla Games, but it’s actually an official military term.
46Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:50:05.85ID:AMCSVlH10
Mine clearance unit?
50Security Guard [lv.22].Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 19:52:24.84ID:yuguvitV0
It’s a total human wave tactic. It’s not a populous country like China or India. This will leave considerable damage after the war.
65Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 20:00:24.10ID:OPD7ixck0
Basically the defender has the advantage, so once the Kursk was cut off it was all over.
73Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 20:06:09.37ID:iFaGoQy00
>>65
The defender has the advantage – a medieval value
In modern warfare, the attacker has the advantage over the defender because they can fire away with long-range weapons.
72Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 15, 2024 (Fri) 20:05:51.94ID:dogSTx1S0
The personnel who step on the mines laid in the kill zone are probably North Koreans.
Reference: https://asahi.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1731666279, World Data and graph

Other languages: ロシア軍、クルスク州で「キルゾーン」にはまり損害続出指揮官の偽情報も一因かウクライナ軍の地雷を除去せず突入, Las tropas rusas están atrapadas en una “zona de muerte” en el Óblast de Kursk y continúan sufriendo pérdidas. Posiblemente debido a información falsa de sus comandantes, ingresan al ejército ucraniano sin retirar las minas terrestres.

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