With “fake brand-name goods” being made to exact copies of traditional manufacturing methods and even incorporating IC tags just like the “real thing,” pawn shops are going out of business one after another as the quality of these goods increases.

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0001paradise★.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:20:52.60ID:AwPD1GDQ9
Before the advent of consumer finance, pawnshops were the most familiar form of financing for the general public. You can also use luxury watches, luxury brand items, kimonos, etc. as pawns to borrow money immediately or have them purchased. Even now, there is strong demand from people who suddenly need cash. [Photo] Can you tell which one is real? We’ve lined up the “real” and “super copy” Chanel and Vuitton. A problem is occurring that is shaking up the pawnshop industry. There are now counterfeits on the market of luxury brand items, which are commonly used as pawns, that are far better than the traditional “super copies.” A generation ago, fake brand-name products were often so poorly made that even an amateur could tell at a glance. However, in recent years, the quality has improved dramatically. Among them, many super-copies have been found that are difficult even for professional appraisers to determine their authenticity. Mr. A, who has run a pawnshop in a local city for many years, says the following. “The quality of counterfeit branded goods has risen dramatically in recent years. They are entirely designed to fool us professionals. The appraisal work is now more difficult than lending money or managing pawned items. It’s too much of a burden for pawnbrokers.”
The main items currently being pawned are luxury watches such as Rolex, luxury brand bags such as Louis Vuitton and Hermes, and gold products and jewelry, which are continuing to rise in price, but there are a lot of counterfeits of all of these. What’s more, some fakes are so well made that they can even fool scientifically-based authentication machines. A counterfeit craftsman with skills comparable to a saddler Many of the bags brought to Mr. A are from the luxury brand Hermes. It is not uncommon for classic bags such as the Birkin and Kelly to be traded for several times their retail price, and counterfeits are becoming more sophisticated and sophisticated. “In some stores, counterfeit goods are brought in almost every day,” said Mr. A, revealing the extent to which counterfeits are rampant. What surprises Mr. A is the high level of perfection of the fake. There are so many bags that are so well made that it’s disappointing to wonder why they are fakes when they are so well made. “To put it bluntly, the fake Hermes bags on the market today are better made and of higher quality than bags made by traditional Japanese craftsmen. “Hermes started out as a saddlery manufacturer, so the Birkin bag is made using traditional techniques used to make saddlery, but even those techniques have been copied,” says A, who is amazed. “The craftsmen who make these fakes are so good that I wonder if they could become real saddlers.” Along with Hermes, Louis Vuitton is also a popular brand brought to pawn shops, but the quality of the fakes is said to be astonishing. “Recently, Louis Vuitton has started embedding IC tags in its products. However, there are counterfeits that even copy it. What’s more, the IC tag used is from the same manufacturer as the genuine product. Where they get them and incorporate them into their fakes is a mystery.”

What’s more, whenever a new model is released, fakes of that model appear on the market within a few weeks. Because it is a new product, dealers often do not have much knowledge about it and end up buying counterfeits. So how do counterfeiters copy new products? Mr. A said, “I was simply amazed at the speed.” Source below.

伝統的な製法を完コピして、“本物”と同様にICタグまで内蔵…「偽ブランド品」のハイレベル化で質屋の廃業が続出「息子に継がせようとは思いません」(デイリー新潮) - Yahoo!ニュース
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0065Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:40:41.97ID:wYkMhhzp0
>>1
Now that I think about it, I think I saw something on the news saying that the real thing is made by Chinese people at low wages.
0068Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:41:39.49ID:YocNJGJm0
>>1
If they have that level of technology, they should develop their own brand and compete with other companies in the industry.
0002Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:21:25.95ID:z8qdpq3z0(1/2)
If it’s made with real parts, it’s the real thing.
0004Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:22:56.38ID:cIeK5P1R0(1/2)
No, there’s a problem in Italy where Chinese craftsmen are making genuine brand-name products at low prices. Since they made it, it’s the real thing.
0026Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:31:22.80ID:WKHJrd1V0
>>4
All brands that don’t pay their craftsmen are going under like this.
0058Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:38:31.81ID:Yn7MJ2/S0
>>4
I see.
Real craftsmen are making “fakes” to earn some extra cash.
So of course the quality is high.
0005Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:23:34.16ID:nwn1IQRH0(1/2)
I guess it’s tough because pawnbrokers have to be discerning connoisseurs, but I bet a lot of people end up buying fakes on Mercari and other sites.
0006Security Guard [lv.16].Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:23:44.45ID:F3Q9rzYI0
It’s being directly produced by a genuine subcontractor.
0050Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:36:06.15ID:mUedWW0k0
>>6
I think that’s it.
0007Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:23:45.60ID:H6gqoFag0
invention of the china empire.
0008Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:23:47.85ID:DYfJcFQF0
If you can’t tell the difference, then it’s fine to have the real thing. And it would be a waste if the original company didn’t employ those craftsmen.
0009Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:24:03.97ID:qbf1niWT0
It’s like the printing company that prints Bikkuriman stickers and fake Bikkuri stickers is the same.
0010Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:24:05.66ID:7fdF01sB0
It’s been well-known for a long time that Chinese semiconductor manufacturers sell fake products that are identical to the genuine products with fake markings in order to make extra money, but perhaps the economic situation of Chinese craftsmen has deteriorated to the point that this delicate balance is being upset.
0114Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:54:03.78ID:fiidVLBC0
>>10
I guess we’ve reached that point already, the brand is going to collapse.
Older items that don’t have the blueprints or manufacturing techniques handed down may be sold at high prices like fine art.
0011Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:25:16.12ID:E/5J8b4P0
A hotter story than the real thing.
0012Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:25:17.71ID:ObN1/9570
Make it real.
0013Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:25:49.49ID:broTBZ+A0(1/2)
I used to think that buying from major pawn shops, buy-back stores, lost property sales at train stations, or government-imposed seizure brands was safer than buying from any other store, but now it seems that even the major stores are suspicious and the only option is to buy from official stores at the regular price.
0014Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:25:53.41ID:RBiXY6s10
We need to have a device that can read IC tags.
0020Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:27:37.40ID:z8qdpq3z0(2/2)
>>14
The only way is to keep track of it with this and GPS data.
0061Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:40:12.90ID:bFUfQzdb0(3/12)
>>14
These days, even the IC chips on fakes have real parts built in
so that even the manufacturers can’t tell the difference between real and fake.
0015Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:26:03.84ID:VWFqZgV60
If it’s indistinguishable to the untrained eye, that’s fine. Both the buyer and the seller will be happy.
0016Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:26:21.47ID:0J2bEYsD0
That should be real too.
0017Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:26:41.90ID:Mljzs8ma0
Because there is an accomplice on the inside.
0021Security guard [lv.15].Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:27:42.84ID:2n3smwvd0(1/2)
Well, even if it’s real, it doesn’t mean the quality of the item itself is good.
0023Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:29:00.43ID:1dwvqRIs0
If you can’t tell the difference then it must already be real…
0030Security Guard [lv.31].Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:32:41.22ID:WKBggeR00(1/3)
>>23
Well, it’s made by the same craftsmen who make the real thing, so it’s the same as the real thing.
0069Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:42:07.01ID:KSrH50Ke0
>>23
I guess it’s the difference between making it during working hours at the factory or during overtime.
So overtime means higher labor costs (except in Japan).
0027Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:31:39.45ID:KI4SgSjB0(1/3)
If they can make such amazing fakes, they should start their own brand.
0028Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:32:14.09ID:TT+XZ8lT0
They’re bringing in Chinese workers.
0029Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:32:23.40ID:aZtATlUP0(1/4)
The Daiso one in question is also genuine lol. If you put a sticker on it, the quality is the same.
0031Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:32:44.43ID:bFUfQzdb0(1/12)
The fakes are made in the same factories that make the real ones, so once you let China into your supply chain, it’s all over.
0032Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:32:54.63ID:ska57RpP0
I think the My Number Card will suffer the same fate.
0034Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:32:59.65ID:Ay9FGrJc0
It’s the real thing now.
0035Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:33:17.90ID:idmo7+MT0
During the coronavirus pandemic, they said there were a lot of Chinese people in sewing factories in Italy. There are probably some in France too. That makes sense, since they learn the job and make things in real factories.
0036Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:33:21.88ID:NXXgu3hD0
If it’s that similar then it’s real.
0037Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:33:34.65ID:tz6Dqtk10
Brands charge extra for their branding, so they can make a profit even if they copy the product exactly, so of course there are a lot of fakes.
0038Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:34:38.61ID:hZzKGEio0
If it’s an exact copy then it’s the real thing. It’s weird that they add unnecessary value with a brand.
0039Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:34:42.21ID:igobiI7/0
At this point, the philosophy becomes, “What makes something real?”
0041Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:35:11.20ID:M6dRdkKj0
First of all, the branded products themselves are of poor quality.
0042Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:35:13.39ID:h166Lp6u0(1/2)
It’s because China has become the world’s factory. If luxury brands had made their products domestically instead of being obsessed with short-term profits, technology wouldn’t have leaked out.
0043Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 19, 2024 (Thu) 11:35:15.46ID:doEDb9Gr0
It’s time to reconsider the value of what a brand is.
Reference: https://asahi.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1726712452

Other languages: 伝統的な製法を完コピして、“本物”と同様にICタグまで内蔵「偽ブランド品」のハイレベル化で質屋の廃業が続出, Muchas casas de empeño están cerrando debido al alto nivel de “productos de marcas falsas” que copian completamente los métodos de fabricación tradicionales e incluso tienen etiquetas IC integradas como los productos “reales”.

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