The Democratic Party for the People “An income wall！” Government “If we do that， it will result in a 7．6 trillion yen annual revenue reduction， but the benefit will be greater for high-income earners．”
1Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.20] [Seedling] continues to move.Oct. 30, 2024 (Wed) 23:56:54.63ID:srltfKr1p
It was revealed on the 30th that if the “annual income barrier” measures advocated by the Democratic Party for the People are implemented and the tax-free limit is raised by 750,000 yen, national and local revenues will decrease by about 7.6 trillion yen per year in total. The government calculated this. It will be a tax cut for taxpayers. Higher income earners will benefit more from tax reductions, making fairness an issue. In its campaign pledges for the House of Representatives election, the Democratic Party for the People clearly stated that “the total of basic deductions, etc. will be raised from 1.03 million yen to 1.78 million yen.”
It’s too early to give reasons why you can’t do something.
8Anonymous security guard [lv.13] still moves.Oct. 30, 2024 (Wed) 23:59:02.63ID:Y0ogoVQw0
Is it the government’s calculation that lowering the consumption tax will cause a drop in consumption?
9Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.6] [Sprout] continues to move.Oct. 30, 2024 (Wed) 23:59:17.47ID:yqQSJDxx0
That will offset the increase in consumption.
70Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.7] [Sprout] continues to move.Oct. 31, 2024 (Thu) 00:14:11.91ID:WnK3btSQ0HLWN
>>9 That would lead to inflation.
10Anonymous security guard [lv.33] still moves.Oct. 30, 2024 (Wed) 23:59:23.12ID:0Ys+eHbb0
It’s okay to give benefits to high-income earners every once in a while. The message that if you work hard and earn money, you will be rewarded is important for the middle class.
11Anonymous security guard [lv.5] still moves.Oct. 30, 2024 (Wed) 23:59:28.88ID:bbGSBEk+0
There are only good things about it.
12Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.7] [Sprout] continues to move.Oct. 30, 2024 (Wed) 23:59:31.78ID:ahTNWTCV0
Can you really do that?
27Anonymous security guard [lv.24] still moves.Oct. 31, 2024 (Thu) 00:01:34.29ID:C1EoTLiE0HLWN
>>12 Ishiba could do it He’s basically a disliked person Being a disliked person means he has few vested interests involved.
13Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.9] [Sprout] continues to move.Oct. 30, 2024 (Wed) 23:59:55.94ID:ZZM9agwM0
I’ve been saying from the beginning that revenue has increased by more than 7 trillion yen, so there’s no problem and we just need to reduce the amount that was taken in excess.
14Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.5] [Sprout] continues to move.Oct. 30, 2024 (Wed) 23:59:57.99ID:rNRu4v4Z0
There’s buried treasure.
15Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.1] [Sprout] continues to move.Oct. 31, 2024 (Thu) 00:00:20.80ID:lsxhba3fdHLWN
What if we lowered the income tax rate?
16Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.9] [Sprout] continues to move.Oct. 31, 2024 (Thu) 00:00:27.02ID:MhFV9aY40HLWN
I mean, they need to raise the deduction amount to match the minimum wage. They’ve just snatched away 7.6 trillion yen.
It doesn’t have to be 1.75 million, but make it around 1.3 million.
18Anonymous security guard [lv.29] still moves.Oct. 31, 2024 (Thu) 00:00:34.21ID:n7dwwGDT0HLWN
I think it would be more effective than giving it to low-income earners.
19Anonymous security guard [lv.11] still moves.Oct. 31, 2024 (Thu) 00:00:44.54ID:2nSMp271MHLWN
That’s true, but first you should quit your part-time job paying 1.06 million yen.
22Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.7] [Sprout] continues to move.Oct. 31, 2024 (Thu) 00:01:02.71ID:cWe8McMw0HLWN
Since they’re returning the excess that was initially increased, surely that would result in a decrease in revenue? 🤔? Is this just wordplay?
23Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.11] [Seedling] continues to move.Oct. 31, 2024 (Thu) 00:01:03.89ID:bJ3WUp/H0HLWN
Up until now, policies like the consumption tax hike have provided greater benefits to higher income earners, so it shouldn’t be a problem.
24Anonymous security guard [lv.4] still moves.Oct. 31, 2024 (Thu) 00:01:13.74ID:j29hIoGs0HLWN
Low-income earners: “We have low incomes and yet we get no benefits. What’s the point of giving tax cuts to the wealthy?!”
32Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.9] [Sprout] continues to move.Oct. 31, 2024 (Thu) 00:02:34.68ID:MhFV9aY40HLWN
>>24 It’s a buff for all workers.
44Anonymous security guard [lv.33] still moves.Oct. 31, 2024 (Thu) 00:04:57.77ID:/bMZVrTb0HLWN
>>24 The benefits will be greater if you work hard and increase your income. Many companies are short of staff, so changing jobs to a company with a higher hourly wage is also an option.
Either a fair punishment game or a bonus that gives the wealthy a slight advantage. People become dull when they are poor, so a fair punishment game is no good.
26Anonymous security guard [lv.33] still moves.Oct. 31, 2024 (Thu) 00:01:34.25ID:/bMZVrTb0HLWN
If take-home pay increases, about half of it will be spent, and that will be returned to you in the form of consumption tax and corporate tax. If all goes well, this will lead to higher wages and higher income tax.
It would be fine to tax even if the income is 300,000 yen. The dependent deduction will disappear.
48Anonymous security guard [lv.33] still moves.Oct. 31, 2024 (Thu) 00:06:07.12ID:/bMZVrTb0HLWN
>>34 The tax reduction for someone with a salary of 2 million yen is about 20,000 yen per year. The tax reduction for someone with a salary of 8 million yen is about 200,000 yen per year.
35Anonymous security guard [lv.33] still moves.Oct. 31, 2024 (Thu) 00:03:36.45ID:/bMZVrTb0HLWN
It’s counterproductive that the minimum wage has gone up and part-time workers have fewer hours to work. Even if it means a temporary decrease in tax revenue, measures are needed to address that. If part-time workers and students have more hours to work, the labor shortage will be alleviated a little.
36Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.6] [Sprout] continues to move.Oct. 31, 2024 (Thu) 00:03:52.44ID:bauqgdBV0HLWN
It is a subsidy after all.
38Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.2] [Sprout] continues to move.Oct. 31, 2024 (Thu) 00:04:00.72ID:lsxhba3fdHLWN
The former Minsu Party was part of the Constitutional Communist Party.
Why is it assumed that high-income earners will also receive tax cuts?
47Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.9] [Sprout] continues to move.Oct. 31, 2024 (Thu) 00:05:41.81ID:MhFV9aY40HLWN
>>39 The basic deduction applies to all workers, not just part-timers.
40Anonymous security guard [lv.40] still moves.Oct. 31, 2024 (Thu) 00:04:21.78ID:33fAFAIK0HLWN
I don’t really understand the benefits to high-income earners. Please explain it more clearly.
41Anonymous security guard [lv.22] still moves.Oct. 31, 2024 (Thu) 00:04:34.92ID:IXCOX32K0HLWN
Of course, the supporters understand, so there’s no problem.
42Anonymous security guard [lv.15] still moves.Oct. 31, 2024 (Thu) 00:04:35.55ID:4EspB5WC0HLWN
Why do they bully poor people who earn less than 2 million yen?
45Anonymous security guard [lv.11] still moves.Oct. 31, 2024 (Thu) 00:05:22.40ID:wqzm4Prt0HLWN
I’m sick of the LDP’s rhetoric. They keep saying we need tax revenue, but how much more do they intend to increase the burden on the people? And even though the tax burden is high, I don’t feel like I’m benefiting from it at all.
46Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.6] [Sprout] continues to move.Oct. 31, 2024 (Thu) 00:05:27.50ID:bauqgdBV0HLWN
This will go hand in hand with a consumption tax increase.
49Anonymous security guard [lv.24] still moves.Oct. 31, 2024 (Thu) 00:07:12.98ID:C1EoTLiE0HLWN
>>46 In the current political climate, taxes can be reduced but not increased.
50Anonymous security guard [lv.33] still moves.Oct. 31, 2024 (Thu) 00:07:14.09ID:/bMZVrTb0HLWN
The administrative costs and burden on local government employees are lower than those of grants.
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