The teenagers arrested in the assault and death of a university student “stole the victim’s cards and divided the cash withdrawals,” resulting in a loss of tens of thousands of yen did they find out the victim’s PIN number during the assault?

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1hitzeschleier★.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:40:25.45ID:VNR8V4u89
[Ebetsu] In an investigation into the incident in which Tomoya Hase (20), a university student from Chitose City, was assaulted by a group of people and killed in a park in Ebetsu City, it was learned on the 31st through interviews with investigators that the teenagers arrested on suspicion of causing death by injury have stated that “we stole Hase’s cash card and withdrew cash from an ATM.” The PIN number is believed to have been obtained during the assault, and the boys said they “shared the cash.” Security cameras captured the perpetrator withdrawing cash from an ATM at a convenience store in Sapporo, and Ebetsu Police Station is investigating the incident, believing the loss to amount to tens of thousands of yen. According to investigators, Hase’s girlfriend, Ama Yagiwara (20), a university student from Ebetsu City (who has already been indicted on the same charges), has stated that “He asked me to break up a year later, and that’s when problems started.” The suspect had used the calling function on his smartphone to let a university student in the city, Haoto Kawamura (20), play the conversation he had with Hase just before the incident. *Previous thread.

大学生集団暴行死 逮捕の少年ら「被害者のカード奪い現金」 被害十数万円か 「分け合った」とも供述 北海道・江別(北海道新聞) - Yahoo!ニュース
【江別】江別市の公園で、千歳市の大学生長谷知哉さん(20)が集団暴行を受け、死亡した事件で、傷害致死容疑で逮捕された少年らが「長谷さんのキャッシュカードを奪い、ATMで現金を引き出した」と供述して
大学生暴行死 逮捕の少年ら「被害者のカード奪い現金引き出し分け合った」被害十数万円、暗証番号は暴行中に聞き出したか ★2 [Hitzeschleier★]
8Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:42:46.07ID:iPCJrPO40
>>1
Bandits.
11Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:43:19.14ID:8j5Y6I2/0
>>1
Sharing
It gives the impression that he’s a good guy.
19Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:44:26.83ID:kzzo1W970
What surprised me after reading >>1 was that Ama has already been referred to the prosecutor’s office.
They’ve got almost uncontradicted statements from everyone.
2Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:41:00.12ID:qrGPMlUL0
Both murder-robbery and manslaughter by robbery are punishable by death or life imprisonment, so it’s the end for both Ama-chan and Kanon-chan.
3Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:41:01.79ID:izjPkPMU0
Robbery and murder carries a life sentence or the death penalty.
13Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:43:33.38ID:3WnSzHGL0
>>3
It’s impossible to prosecute for robbery and murder
The best you can get is assault resulting in death and theft.
4Security guard [lv.24].Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:41:44.18ID:1hSxZtIt0
The world has become a bit strange since the year 2000.
9Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:43:00.68ID:9QH0B12g0
>>4
July 1999 to be exact.
Yes! Nostradamus’ great prophecy came true!!
The past world has been destroyed!!
5Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:42:02.83ID:izjPkPMU0
We need to spread the message that “if you steal, don’t kill.”
6Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:42:42.87ID:TCeVyI5R0
Oh no, some stupid kid did it. I’m sure he just thought it was a lynching and extortion.
7Security guard [lv.7].Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:42:44.43ID:PXYstN2r0
Life imprisonment course.
10Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:43:08.32ID:sbrKaMkG0
It was a murder-robbery.
12Security Guard [lv.25].Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:43:25.03ID:QGffZPXV0
At twenty years old, he faces life imprisonment.
15Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:43:56.38ID:MW+q0M7d0
It’s in a residential area, not in the mountains.
16Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:44:05.82ID:aGWEtsDf0
I guess I wasn’t properly educated when I was little. I read Sunset on Third Street when I was little, and I learned that as long as you don’t hurt someone, it’s theft, and no matter how much money you buy, it’s not a serious crime.
20Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:44:34.45ID:MW+q0M7d0
>>16
Why is that the case?
54Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:49:15.95ID:DQBteYma0
>>16
I remember a bad senior asking me for 100 yen
That probably wouldn’t be considered theft or blackmail
If I said “no,” he would say “jump” and find out I had some coins
He would say “Oh, he’s a liar” and be fond of me. That senior graduated from an American university and is working for a fairly large company. He’s doing pretty much the same thing, but he’s probably just trying to get within the legal bounds. It’s the same with politicians who use secret funds, they just aren’t killing people.
18Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:44:15.83ID:IkWCQ+wb0
Don’t these people know there’s a law? lol.
21Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:44:42.77ID:TcLKOEKS0
I have to do it in self-defense before I get killed.
22Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:44:53.36ID:1kHmkIaY0
There was talk of hearing loud screams from the neighbours, but then they spoke their PIN number.
24Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:45:09.97ID:ofQgM7+D0
There are still incidents like these from the Showa era, before the juvenile law was enacted.
26Security guard [lv.13].Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:45:25.20ID:aFGQULHE0
What an idiot! He committed robbery and murder for just a few hundred thousand yen.
27Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:45:28.77ID:y1xFUGlW0
The sentences given to these kinds of people should be exposed in the media like in America.
46Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:48:13.15ID:kKT3zQH60
>>27
They show footage of some brat overseas being shocked after hearing that he’s been sentenced to life imprisonment, and I think they should do the same in Japan.
28Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:45:40.37ID:Fqw8dH+t0
Someone is lying, right?
31Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:46:07.46ID:Ie/e0r2G0
He tortured the victim and got his bank card number out to withdraw money, so isn’t that robbery?
32Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:46:16.12ID:iPCJrPO40
It makes me keenly aware how poor the country has become.
36Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:46:51.84ID:MW+q0M7d0
>>32
It doesn’t really matter.
It’s not like I was short on money.
33Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:46:25.60ID:67Mjmw4y0
If he took the money, it won’t just be manslaughter.
35Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:46:39.81ID:rGoT17to0
Ah, a robbery and murder. I’ve done it.
37Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:46:56.09ID:fezqU+jq0
Thank goodness they did rob him in the end. These guys were just 20 years old and were given life sentences. If it had only been assault resulting in death, they would have gotten away with it by saying they didn’t think he would die, and they would have been let go after less than 10 years.
39Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:47:03.05ID:eJx+79em0
If you fail this you could face life imprisonment.
43Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:47:25.64ID:dl1FitQO0
That’s so stupid.
44Security Guard [lv.13] [Sprout].Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:47:45.49ID:4uMi6vgI0
Assault resulting in death would be one thing, but robbery-murder isn’t…

I never said anything about taking the money
It’s like ◯◯ was the one who took the lead
I wonder if they’re trying to shift the blame onto each other with their statements.

47Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:48:16.98ID:MW+q0M7d0
The flip side of a life sentence is that he won’t have to worry about food. I’d like to see him sent to Russia or North Korea to be used however he likes, or used for clinical trials or something like that.
50Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:48:49.88ID:X+RMmN0L0
That he tortured her.
53Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:49:13.59ID:MW+q0M7d0
Japan is strangely kind to perpetrators.
60Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:50:12.08ID:V2WhV8Ee0
This is what happens when corporal punishment is banned.
65Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:51:08.33ID:xq637gH70
It’s a shame to have to spend your entire life in prison in your 20s.
74Security Guard [lv.12].Nov. 1, 2024 (Fri) 12:53:08.93ID:7Me+Ecd40
Switch to robbery-murder.
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Other languages: 大学生暴行死逮捕の少年ら「被害者のカード奪い現金引き出し分け合った」被害十数万円、暗証番号は暴行中に聞き出したか, Los chicos que fueron arrestados por agredir a un estudiante universitario “robaron la tarjeta de la víctima, retiraron efectivo y compartieron el dinero”. La víctima perdió más de 100.000 yenes. ¿Obtuvieron su número PIN durante la agresión?

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