Is it unfair for single people to “fire themselves and retire early”? A post from 12 years ago on a certain message board is attracting renewed attention.

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0001Panna cotta★.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 17:52:12.94ID:sVEPYYdy9
What will happen to Japan when the Lost Generation becomes elderly? Writer Otadera Kei said, “The number of elderly people who remain unmarried and live alone will increase sharply. Since the financial hurdle for retirement is low, the number of people with a fire-oriented mindset may increase. That is a risk for Japanese society, but we cannot blame this generation.” The “legendary copypasta” that spread on anonymous message boards is back
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Until now, we’ve made fun of NEETs and temp workers, bashing them and calling them self-blame, spoiled, trash, and saying cruel things like “let them starve to death,” but the consequences of all of this will come back to haunt our own country, our own companies, and our own lives. And not only the people, but even those in power are unaware of this. In reality, we would ask that everyone in their 20s to 40s have stable employment, get married, and have at least two children, and ideally three or four, but we have created a society in which this working generation has to desperately search for work while exuding a sense of despondency even when it comes to finding their first job, making it difficult for them to succeed. And we have continued to ridicule the weak and leave them in a society where once you stumble you can never return. It is only natural that causing financial anxiety among working-age people will directly lead to less marriage and a declining birthrate. That’s really stupid. Society as a whole ridicules weak men who are NEETs or temporary workers, treats them like trash, and company employees who act nonchalantly, saying things like, “Who would hire someone like that lol,” are now finding themselves at a loss as the companies they work for go bankrupt due to shrinking domestic demand caused by an extremely low birthrate and aging population. Then the pension system collapsed and the whole country collapsed. The fact that I am currently living in a rich country called Japan, with its rich infrastructure and enjoying a happy life, is all thanks to “someone else having children for us and sustaining our nation’s strength.” The old rulers knew this. He knew that “a country can never prosper unless everyone is rich.” That’s why I didn’t abandon the bottom. There’s no such thing as a wishy-washy story like “I can be the only one who is rich.” —-
This is a piece of writing that seems to realistically describe the current state of affairs, but I didn’t write it. This is an anonymous message board…
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独身者の「FIREして早期リタイヤ」はズルいのか…「自分の死後はどうでもいい世代」を生み出した日本の末路 「子どもを持たない高齢者」が急増する時代が来る
ロスジェネ世代が高齢者層になると、日本はどうなるのか。文筆家の御田寺圭さんは「生涯未婚の単身高齢者層が急増することになる。リタイアに必要な資金的ハードルが低いため、FIRE志向を持つ者も増えるかもしれない。それは日本社会にとってはリスクだが...
0051Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:08:46.20ID:z8Uootza0
>>1
I’ve finished raising my children and have grandchildren. I changed jobs and now earn 3 million yen a year. I own my own home @ 55 years old. I can die anytime now.
0074Security Guard [lv.5] [Sprout].Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:15:55.22ID:AeGllR2B0
>>1
Which board were you talking about?
I’ve been here since before the Shonan trash picking off, but this is the first time I’ve heard of it.
0091Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:20:01.40ID:or8/cDzN0
>>1
The people on 2chan back then were pretty smart.
0002Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 17:52:52.69ID:9rDHV2jI0
It’s a “voting uprising” in the House of Representatives election.
0017Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 17:57:29.20ID:lgd3Q3qS0
>>2
This is the only option
Vote for the party you like other than the LDP, Komeito, and Nippon Ishin
We need to change the world😁.
0003Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 17:53:06.41ID:gu0mo4pX0(1/2)
I have a feeling things will get rough.
0004Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 17:53:51.43ID:6gOQK0M30(1/2)
It’s hard to believe for someone who was born to work and loves their job.
0005Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 17:54:26.22ID:+PmpFXhc0(1/7)
Most people who use the word fire are just airheads.
0007Security guard [lv.7].Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 17:54:56.43ID:EKAv0Zve0
Abe didn’t understand that until his death.
0008Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 17:55:13.51ID:UQBxgsej0
I’ve got a fire going, I go mountain climbing every day, I go mountain climbing when I feel like it, I camp out in a tent, and I drink from noon onwards.
0026Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:01:39.66ID:NMg47GIB0
>>8
Fired. I play games every day. Golf, fishing, and long trips when the mood strikes. I drink from noon onwards, but for some reason I’m stingy and make sure to take days off from drinking.
0009Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 17:55:35.91ID:oqnuOP1B0(1/3)
Perfect timing. Janshi-san is five times harder.
0010Security Guard [lv.11].Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 17:56:35.27ID:FF7rMZDd0
In a peaceful world with solid social security, work is something that you ask for.
0012Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 17:56:45.27ID:lkntzjJd0
Even if you give money to a middle-aged single person, all he does is buy a lot of gasoline and go on a drive-by.
0013Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 17:57:00.42ID:moxLr6hh0
Do as you please. I’m not going to ask how the Ice Age generation made their money though.
0014Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 17:57:04.12ID:yD1QMExR0(1/2)
The end result of traitorous LDP politics: The foolish people who refused to vote and allowed the LDP to continue in power have brought it all upon themselves.
0015Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 17:57:09.47ID:BTu+FZFK0
Is this the fruit of Abenomics?
0092Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:20:31.43ID:W0vDQtDR0(1/2)
>>15
Because Kishida and Ishiba will continue to do their best lol.
0016Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 17:57:21.80ID:oqnuOP1B0(2/3)
That being said, it’s better not to work. There are some incompetent hard workers. I gave up because I couldn’t communicate. The company isn’t to blame.
0018Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 17:59:00.37ID:kPfAgGuq0
Rather than becoming a disposable person, learn how to invest in stocks with one of Japan’s three greatest genius investors, Toshiya Imura, who went from being poor at 1 million yen to being rich at several tens of billions!
0019Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 17:59:34.56ID:9o6iq3JN0
If I don’t kill time with DIY renovations, tinkering with cars, fishing, and games, I’ll go crazy because I have no goals or objectives. I live in the country, divorced, single, 53 years old, unemployed (for 4 years).
0020Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:00:08.37ID:4K739Iab0
Is this the era where articles are written by copying and pasting from 2ch?
0021Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:00:16.06ID:lP4fwida0
It’s ok, in 100 years we’ll all be American or Chinese, so don’t worry about it. Or we’ll all be dead from global warming. Everyone, just enjoy the present.
0022Security Guard [lv.5] [Sprout].Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:00:38.36ID:ooCItm4q0
We live in an age where people who are supposed to have a fire come back because they don’t have enough money.
0023Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:00:52.60ID:yD1QMExR0(2/2)
When left-wing parties like the Socialist Party were powerful, the LDP couldn’t do as it pleased. Japan was generally middle-class and wealthy back then. But this is what happened as the LDP gained too many seats.
0029Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:02:24.25ID:u0y5EI2P0
>>23
Regardless of whether the left is good or not, it’s only natural that people will get lazy and lose their votes if there’s no opposition.
The public should think a little more before voting.
Not voting is out of the question.
0024Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:01:32.56ID:QKMzziX80
With welfare you get about 1.5 million yen a year, and with Fire you get more than that, so your take-home pay is about 3 million yen.
You can’t make 100 million without assets.
If you’re a financial man, maybe you can make it by the time you’re 40?
0025Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:01:32.60ID:r7YBgsYt0
At 38, I was done making money and it was basically fire. At 48, I wasn’t making any money, but the job I wanted to do was finished and I was taking it easy. I’m a little too old now, at 56. I have two children and two grandchildren.
0027Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:01:53.64ID:mT5himjr0(1/2)
They don’t get married, don’t have kids, and just think about themselves and live as they please. We should take the retirement savings these idiots have saved up as a single tax and then shoot them.
0068Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:15:12.56ID:V3K3jVnJ0(2/3)
>>27
I wish the government would recruit illegal part-time workers.
0028Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:02:22.28ID:6gOQK0M30(2/2)
If you have a medical license, you won’t have to worry even if you run out of money.
0031Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:02:42.80ID:k3cp1akX0
In the old days, 5chan (2chan at the time) was filled with highly educated people and people who looked like real journalists.
0032Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:03:12.67ID:IKHUoxXt0
My social studies teacher in elementary school taught us the Eejanaika dance and we all danced together. Apparently it was useful in overthrowing the shogunate.
0033Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:03:21.76ID:mT5himjr0(2/2)
These Chonga guys who don’t get married, don’t have children, and just live as they please are the cause of the declining birthrate, so we should collect a singles tax on the retirement funds they have saved.
0034Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:03:34.77ID:RoseEXsV0(1/6)
“Hello everyone in Japan, this is Reality,” said Reality.
0035Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:04:04.32ID:LM+eIKCR0
But you guys are NEETs.
0036Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:04:12.61ID:tvmz4nut0(1/13)
>Everyone has to be rich

Wealth = inequality, so it’s impossible for everyone to be rich
unless it’s through developments in science and technology
Even if everyone’s annual income reaches the hundreds of millions, prices will just rise accordingly
and it won’t change the fact that those below the average are poor and those above the average are rich.

0043Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:05:43.18ID:bq59L2A30
>>36
I guess it would be reasonable to try to make the distribution as normal as possible and stretch the peak higher and higher.
0047Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:07:15.22ID:1X/T6sIk0
>>36
I’ve had enough of that.
0049Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:08:10.34ID:ztQ6YZYs0
>>36
But wasn’t it said that during the period of high economic growth, 100 million people were middle class?
Even if not for everyone, it was possible to achieve this to a certain extent
But it was just a good time.
0058Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:12:18.76ID:7aI0JDMt0(1/2)
>>36
One hundred million middle class
Japan was the most prosperous country in the world during the period of high economic growth.
Compared to that, how can you say that today’s society, where only a very small percentage of people are getting fat through investment, is better than it was then?
0037Security Guard [lv.5] [Sprout].Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:04:44.91ID:FKw8b6IQ0
If you work, you lose?
0038Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:04:50.70ID:pt8iDXVs0
If you don’t have kids
you’ll be fine even if you get fired.
you’ll be able to get by even if you’re a non-regular worker.
0039Security guard [lv.13].Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:05:05.98ID:+qI/bz2Y0
Work hard for 3 years and make 10 million, then use that as a down payment to buy a rental apartment building with a 10% chance of earning 100 million that you inherited, then use it to pay off the entire amount in 10 years, then borrow 100 million using the apartment building as collateral, and buy another apartment building with a 10% chance of earning 100 million. At this stage your annual income will exceed 10 million, so fire away.
0040Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:05:26.75ID:25u740Cd0
If you have a wife and kids, you can’t make a fire with 100 million yen. Even if you could, it would be a gradual fire.
0046Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:07:10.87ID:QoONaLNf0
>>40
My wife’s children are my biggest liability.
0041Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:05:32.50ID:Z+3+f2Lq0(1/2)
If you listen carefully to the words and actions that are all over the world,
you’ll realize that even toilet graffiti has a certain amount of influence.
0042Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:05:37.90ID:prRbR14L0
Fire is basically just going to make you unemployed. I don’t see the point in hyping something like that.
0050Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:08:33.67ID:ik7yvPXT0
>>42
I also did a fire.
I do farming as a hobby, and of course it’s a hobby that I sell.
0044Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:06:59.17ID:SK2o8FhH0
However, the older generation who did this did not take responsibility, instead pushing the responsibility onto the younger generation and running away to their deaths.
0052Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:09:01.05ID:ozKXv+sB0(1/5)
I always think that for you, old age is not fire but fear, right?
0057Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:10:04.10ID:j9Ll7T9a0
The big reversal of the singles tax.
0062Anonymous donburako rolling around.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:14:00.47ID:26qqx4KC0(2/23)
>>57
Will the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare give me a discount if I get a My Number card?
0085Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:17:19.70ID:diMu1PpH0
>>57
Then I’ll get into a sham marriage with a foreigner who wants permanent residency.
0063Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:14:22.93ID:LddclA0X0
What do you mean it’s unfair lol
I get that you’re jealous lol
I guess it’s a matter of personal freedom after all.
0070Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 20, 2024 (Sun) 18:15:34.64ID:rBUtfA0H0
If I retire on around 50 million yen, I’ll only be able to live the same lifestyle as someone on welfare.
Reference: https://asahi.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1729414332, World Data and graph

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