1@Old Man Friends Club ★.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 12:57:18.52ID:qfUEKSD49
The fee was supposed to be a fixed amount of 300,000 yen, but I was charged over 1.2 million yen. There is no end to these kinds of financial troubles surrounding funerals. While the coronavirus pandemic has led to the spread of simple “family funerals,” competition among funeral homes has also intensified. The Internet is flooded with advertisements that tout low prices, and there have been a number of cases in which companies making unfair representations have been fined. (Yamagishi Yosuke)
■The COVID-19 pandemic has added momentum to the times
“The cheapest one starts at 76,000 yen” and “Everything you need is included for 400,000 yen.” Many funeral homes are promoting family funeral plans online. There is no definition of a family funeral in terms of size or number of people, but they have a strong image of being “compact and cheap” compared to traditional funerals which attract a wide range of attendees, and they have expanded rapidly in recent years. According to a survey by Kamakura Shinsho, a company that provides end-of-life related services, the proportion of funerals held as family funerals was 31% in 2015, but by 2022, when the COVID-19 pandemic was still ongoing, this figure had exceeded half for the first time, reaching 56%. The final straw was the growing trend to reduce the number of attendees in order to reduce the risk of infection during the COVID-19 pandemic, when demand for large funerals had already declined due to the trend toward nuclear families and the concentration of the population in urban areas. Even in 2012, when we emerged from the coronavirus pandemic, the figure was still at 50%. ■Options are added and the average price exceeds 1 million yen
As a result, funeral companies’ income per funeral is stagnating. Kumi Akashi (55), a certified administrative scrivener and inheritance and end-of-life consultant, said, “Price competition is fierce in the industry, so we need to handle a large number of cases. “They are being forced to emphasize low prices in order to attract customers.” Since they cannot make a living at the low prices advertised, they often add on various options and services not included in the flat-rate plan, inflating the total price. Journalist and Buddhist monk Hidenori Ukai (50), author of books such as “The Funeralless Society” and “The Extinction of ‘Graves'”, also commented, “The advertising price is the minimum plan. “It’s common for the bill to be five to ten times higher if you add on things you don’t need, so you need to be careful when signing the contract.” According to a 2012 survey by Kamakura Shinsho, the average cost of a family funeral is 1,057,000 yen. Not all of the contracts were problematic, but there was a big gap between the price range one would imagine from the advertisements. According to the National Consumer Affairs Center of Japan, there were 886 inquiries about funeral services in fiscal 2011, down 65 from the previous year but remaining high. Continue reading in Kobe Shimbun
2024/11/16 9:00.
■The COVID-19 pandemic has added momentum to the times
“The cheapest one starts at 76,000 yen” and “Everything you need is included for 400,000 yen.” Many funeral homes are promoting family funeral plans online. There is no definition of a family funeral in terms of size or number of people, but they have a strong image of being “compact and cheap” compared to traditional funerals which attract a wide range of attendees, and they have expanded rapidly in recent years. According to a survey by Kamakura Shinsho, a company that provides end-of-life related services, the proportion of funerals held as family funerals was 31% in 2015, but by 2022, when the COVID-19 pandemic was still ongoing, this figure had exceeded half for the first time, reaching 56%. The final straw was the growing trend to reduce the number of attendees in order to reduce the risk of infection during the COVID-19 pandemic, when demand for large funerals had already declined due to the trend toward nuclear families and the concentration of the population in urban areas. Even in 2012, when we emerged from the coronavirus pandemic, the figure was still at 50%. ■Options are added and the average price exceeds 1 million yen
As a result, funeral companies’ income per funeral is stagnating. Kumi Akashi (55), a certified administrative scrivener and inheritance and end-of-life consultant, said, “Price competition is fierce in the industry, so we need to handle a large number of cases. “They are being forced to emphasize low prices in order to attract customers.” Since they cannot make a living at the low prices advertised, they often add on various options and services not included in the flat-rate plan, inflating the total price. Journalist and Buddhist monk Hidenori Ukai (50), author of books such as “The Funeralless Society” and “The Extinction of ‘Graves'”, also commented, “The advertising price is the minimum plan. “It’s common for the bill to be five to ten times higher if you add on things you don’t need, so you need to be careful when signing the contract.” According to a 2012 survey by Kamakura Shinsho, the average cost of a family funeral is 1,057,000 yen. Not all of the contracts were problematic, but there was a big gap between the price range one would imagine from the advertisements. According to the National Consumer Affairs Center of Japan, there were 886 inquiries about funeral services in fiscal 2011, down 65 from the previous year but remaining high. Continue reading in Kobe Shimbun
2024/11/16 9:00.
家族葬、料金トラブル絶えず 「定額」と広告…数倍の請求額も 葬儀巡る相談、年900件
「定額30万円」のはずが、120万円超を請求された-。葬儀を巡り、こんな料金トラブルが後を絶たない。コロナ禍をきっかけに簡素な「家族葬」が定着する一方、葬儀社の競争も激化。インターネット上には安さを前面にうたった広告があふれ、不当表示の業者...
3Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 12:59:03.00ID:gMCTuv7R0
Bird burial is good.
4Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 12:59:16.50ID:YsXuIkdp0
All you have to do is put it in a body bag and it can go straight to the crematorium…
5Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 12:59:53.56ID:KApgkVf60
Well, if you add options, it’s going to cost money, and the ones that cost tens of thousands of yen are the ones who do all the paperwork themselves and even transport the body themselves.
10Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:00:40.09ID:75zfcykN0
>>5
If I could transport it in my Serena, it would be no problem. Wasn’t that not allowed?
If I could transport it in my Serena, it would be no problem. Wasn’t that not allowed?
7Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:00:17.60ID:JSG1c89A0
Both the right and the left are full of businesses that only target the ignorant.
8Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:00:19.42ID:YsXuIkdp0
A custom-made suit would be more than double the price.
9Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:00:37.00ID:qXXC+cpz0
This is definitely the most wasteful of all the ○○ formulas.
24Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:03:55.84ID:ybSs04Xa0
>>9
Furthermore, there are about 50 troublesome events that are said to be gatherings to mark the anniversary of a person’s death.
Furthermore, there are about 50 troublesome events that are said to be gatherings to mark the anniversary of a person’s death.
11Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:01:25.06ID:whP5/pHP0
You can choose the transportation cost for the body as an option. No transportation is zero yen. Hearses range from 300,000 yen to 1 million yen.
12Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:01:34.79ID:mJzDkwrJ0
They’re just people who make a living off other people’s misfortunes. They take advantage of the fact that when a death occurs and there’s chaos, it’s even harder to make a decision. Priests and funeral businesses are generally trash. They should collect proper corporate tax, especially from religious corporations. It’s crazy that stinky monks are driving around in expensive foreign cars.
92Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:21:30.46ID:XAwMGTKg0
>>12
My mother died after midnight, but I called them at 2am and they rushed over at 6am the next morning, and by the morning they had finished making all the arrangements for cremation without me having to do much. It’s not like we’re using it, but professional work is like that for all jobs, regardless of funerals.
My mother died after midnight, but I called them at 2am and they rushed over at 6am the next morning, and by the morning they had finished making all the arrangements for cremation without me having to do much. It’s not like we’re using it, but professional work is like that for all jobs, regardless of funerals.
13Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:02:09.99ID:f2k2ZfFU0
It’s the same with weddings. Basic services that should be included in the basic fee are treated as options. It’s basically a scam.
14Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:02:10.46ID:PfTfZl+R0
Of course, once they get their share, they’ll start taking it away.
15Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:02:24.89ID:2kmqvrR80
My aunt recently passed away and we had a direct funeral, but I paid 200,000 yen.
17Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:02:27.41ID:0C34B6ba0
Even if it’s a family funeral, do I have to save 5 million yen for both parents?
19Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:02:47.53ID:Ff0a8Ym40
Chinese people have bought up funeral companies and are running shady businesses. I wish something could be done…
20Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:02:55.14ID:pGkCge050
People who fall for this sort of thing are likely to have their smartphone plans ripped off as well.
23Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:03:48.35ID:gVpH18mW0
Japan’s fraudulent business practices are on par with China’s.
26Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:04:30.31ID:gMCTuv7R0
Maybe it would be better to bury it in the hills behind.
27Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:04:36.75ID:ZInlkDzv0
I had a family funeral about five years ago and it cost about 150,000 yen.
28Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:04:48.16ID:rVTOL7IH0
A long time ago, I happened to use this place for my uncle’s funeral because it was nearby, and it was really cheap. This time, my nephew and niece and I used it again for my childless aunt’s funeral, and it was really cheap.
29Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:04:50.89ID:2d0hq4Xw0
Even if it’s not a hearse or in a coffin, if you make a private reservation and bring it to me, I’ll cremate it. There are many places where this isn’t the case. There’s no need to let vendors make money.
30Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:05:05.62ID:26rZPTdK0
A hospital with a crematorium and funeral home attached might be popular. But I’d hate to be hospitalized in a place where there’s always smoke billowing and people saying, “What the heck? What the heck?”
32Security guard [lv.4].Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:05:52.23ID:DtuCH5400
Announce the company.
33Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:06:11.94ID:o7WZ4OPx0
As a general rule, companies that run a lot of commercials are suspicious.
36Security Guard [lv.11].Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:07:24.16ID:aOpdCiLd0
I’ve had two family funerals and had no problems. I wonder if the people who are screaming about it being a scam got their hands on something really weird.
37Security Guard [lv.5] [Sprout].Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:07:37.37ID:kmj6JzyX0
If you have a family funeral, you can’t expect any condolence money, so it ends up being more expensive. It’s fine if you want to cut ties with your family and society.
38Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:07:41.42ID:9FB+oLjl0
In the countryside, JA-based companies are the safest option.
39Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:08:09.99ID:tCwlIylM0
What about paying the priest?
56Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:10:47.14ID:aOpdCiLd0
>>39
Do you have a contract with that funeral parlor? People come, but the transportation fee and donation are all fixed amounts.
Do you have a contract with that funeral parlor? People come, but the transportation fee and donation are all fixed amounts.
41Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:08:35.23ID:ppmihMnI0
I was told it would only cost me 30,000 but it ended up costing me 300,000. It pisses me off.
42Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:08:51.48ID:mUjaTsoh0
Because they try to make things easier.
43Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:08:51.49ID:x+N2nRqA0
That’s not professional work.
50Security Guard [lv.5] [Sprout].Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:09:50.89ID:kmj6JzyX0
>>43
It’s an industry with high turnover, so there aren’t many professionals.
It’s an industry with high turnover, so there aren’t many professionals.
44Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:08:53.47ID:rzDqlQSR0
My grandmother has an income of over 3 million and my mother has an income of over 1 million.
46Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:09:08.90ID:sxss8vx80
If that’s how it is at a family funeral, a direct funeral would be better.
47Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 16, 2024 (Sat) 13:09:41.12ID:MTcFeQs00
Get a quote lol.
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