Real estate company explains no discrimination in “LGBT must consult landlord” clause, but experts raise concerns about intent.
1nita★.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 15:31:35.82ID:U2kA2xhq9
Published 11:57, Wednesday, December 4th
Okinawa Times
It has been discovered that a real estate company in the central part of Okinawa’s main island has clearly stated in the consent form when applying for a contract that “LGBT people will need to consult with the landlord.” The company claims that “there was no intention of discrimination and there is no problem,” but experts have raised doubts. (Social Affairs Department, Toyoshima Tetsuhiro)
A man in his 20s from the central part of the main island completed a viewing of an apartment in the central region in November and received a consent form. As I read it in the car on my way home, I was shocked to see that alongside items such as “We do not accept foreigners as a general rule” and “People with mental illnesses or health problems will need to consult with their landlord,” it also said that LGBT people would need to consult with their landlord. The man, who is gay, decided not to sign the contract. The man questioned, “Why do I have to disclose my sexual orientation every time I move in?” He then pointed out, “In the first place, it’s not like being LGBTQ has any impact on your personality or anything like that.” According to the real estate company, the consent form previously stated that “LGBT people are not accepted as a general rule,” but after this was reported in multiple media outlets several years ago, the company worked with the landlord and changed the wording to the current version. There are currently no cases of landlords refusing to accept tenants because they are LGBT. In response to an interview, he said, “The information is merely written to inform the landlord of the type of people who will be moving in, so there is no problem. There is no intention of discrimination or prejudice.” Munetsugu Matsuoka (30), representative director of the general incorporated association “FAIR,” which disseminates information about sexual minorities, believes that including this in the consent form “would indicate the possibility of being unfairly denied housing, and would have the effect of giving the stamp of approval that ‘it’s okay to discriminate against LGBT people,'” and therefore should not be written in words on paper or other documents. He pointed out that discrimination and prejudice against LGBT people is still deeply rooted in the real estate industry, and that there is a need for greater understanding. He also emphasized that there are no laws in Japan that prohibit discrimination in the real estate industry. “Fundamental legislation is needed,” he said. More in the source.
Okinawa Times
It has been discovered that a real estate company in the central part of Okinawa’s main island has clearly stated in the consent form when applying for a contract that “LGBT people will need to consult with the landlord.” The company claims that “there was no intention of discrimination and there is no problem,” but experts have raised doubts. (Social Affairs Department, Toyoshima Tetsuhiro)
A man in his 20s from the central part of the main island completed a viewing of an apartment in the central region in November and received a consent form. As I read it in the car on my way home, I was shocked to see that alongside items such as “We do not accept foreigners as a general rule” and “People with mental illnesses or health problems will need to consult with their landlord,” it also said that LGBT people would need to consult with their landlord. The man, who is gay, decided not to sign the contract. The man questioned, “Why do I have to disclose my sexual orientation every time I move in?” He then pointed out, “In the first place, it’s not like being LGBTQ has any impact on your personality or anything like that.” According to the real estate company, the consent form previously stated that “LGBT people are not accepted as a general rule,” but after this was reported in multiple media outlets several years ago, the company worked with the landlord and changed the wording to the current version. There are currently no cases of landlords refusing to accept tenants because they are LGBT. In response to an interview, he said, “The information is merely written to inform the landlord of the type of people who will be moving in, so there is no problem. There is no intention of discrimination or prejudice.” Munetsugu Matsuoka (30), representative director of the general incorporated association “FAIR,” which disseminates information about sexual minorities, believes that including this in the consent form “would indicate the possibility of being unfairly denied housing, and would have the effect of giving the stamp of approval that ‘it’s okay to discriminate against LGBT people,'” and therefore should not be written in words on paper or other documents. He pointed out that discrimination and prejudice against LGBT people is still deeply rooted in the real estate industry, and that there is a need for greater understanding. He also emphasized that there are no laws in Japan that prohibit discrimination in the real estate industry. “Fundamental legislation is needed,” he said. More in the source.
「LGBTは家主に相談必要」沖縄の不動産会社、同意書に明記 差別の意図ないと説明しているが… 識者から疑問の声(沖縄タイムス) - Yahoo!ニュース
沖縄本島中部の不動産会社が、契約申し込みの際の同意書で「LGBTの方は家主への相談が必要になる」と明記していることが分かった。同社は「差別の意図はなく問題はない」としているが、識者からは疑問の声が
4Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 15:34:20.68ID:WegpTB7e0
>>1
There are probably some landlords who don’t like LGBT people. It’s the diversity of values. It shouldn’t be forced.
There are probably some landlords who don’t like LGBT people. It’s the diversity of values. It shouldn’t be forced.
20Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 15:41:06.91ID:BNRL8JnI0
>>1
That’s true.
How would you explain to your kids if a couple like hg moved in next door?
That’s true.
How would you explain to your kids if a couple like hg moved in next door?
8Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 15:35:45.08ID:ygxNFdvi0
Rather, it’s a result of promoting greater understanding.
Or is it really necessary to make it public?
Or is it really necessary to make it public?
18Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 15:40:32.61ID:WHSfodoE0
>>8
That bill actually increased discrimination.
They should have just kept quiet, but even America is experiencing a backlash lol.
That bill actually increased discrimination.
They should have just kept quiet, but even America is experiencing a backlash lol.
9(Kanagawa Prefecture)(Tokyo)(Mushroom) Neko Neko Japan Rolling.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 15:35:55.93ID:/QGooRrh0
It’s a business, so if you don’t like discrimination just choose another store.
10Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 15:37:00.50ID:s72J/AMF0
It changed after I moved in so there was no problem.
11Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 15:37:18.51ID:eZD3SQI40
Maybe he’s traumatized by the house he rented being used as a cruising venue?
12Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 15:37:23.71ID:d5Co9yCX0
Landlords have their own preferences too, and it’s up to them to decide which preference they want to rent to.
13Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 15:37:58.09ID:LZqEHQZ30
He’s probably an expert (a feminist-left activist) anyway.
16Security Guard [lv.22] [Seedling].Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 15:38:34.92ID:fB0B6Ql70
If you don’t like it, go elsewhere.
19Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 15:40:42.35ID:jydTysGQ0
Do I need to consult with b and t too?
21Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 15:41:31.73ID:/9jnexUg0
They usually come out and say “don’t discriminate” but get angry when people make a distinction between them. It’s selfish of you to tell people to “accept gays” when you yourself couldn’t accept normal sexuality.
22Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 15:42:26.29ID:mU20HaR/0
Pervert = criminal.
23Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 15:43:07.69ID:NocANehv0
Isn’t it natural that the property value of an apartment building that has had LGBT residents, especially G residents, plummets?
43Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 15:57:05.27ID:2882rJb10
>>23
Well, maybe I’d avoid a room where the previous tenant was gay.
Well, maybe I’d avoid a room where the previous tenant was gay.
29Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 15:46:28.91ID:rTIGZR3s0
Renting and renting are free contracts. It’s not like public funds are involved. If more people start saying that’s outrageous, landlords will learn.
30Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 15:48:42.66ID:WCawv47N0
There may also be cases where the landlord is gay and targets tenants.
33Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 15:49:15.93ID:Fihx3uXi0
Once rented, the tenant’s rights are strong and they cannot be evicted, so it is the landlord’s sole prerogative to decide who to rent their property to. It’s probably such a popular property that they have to be selective about who rents it.
34Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 15:50:12.15ID:WCawv47N0
But the world has become a hassle.
35Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 15:50:39.07ID:acONFwTH0
I’m only saying that it’s okay for us to live together because we’re more than just lovers, but it’s unbearable when foreigners keep bringing over gay men one after another.
36Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 15:51:50.46ID:rSVHPwIW0
Is it legal to turn someone down because they are old, disabled, or poor?
37Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 15:52:28.84ID:aOi8EmqB0
>Matsuoka Munetsugu, Representative Director of the General Incorporated Association “fair”
Another one of those damn homosexuals.
Another one of those damn homosexuals.
38Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 15:55:44.41ID:cQcOomer0
If you can’t be a landlord, buy a house. If you’re a 2HP (biologically male) you’re making money.
39Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 15:55:48.12ID:VRGDffw+0
Try it out and find out.
41Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 15:56:09.63ID:FlxJ6iW10
Since it’s a private company, isn’t it illegal to set the conditions for residents however you like?
47Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 16:01:33.21ID:eD7RieG60
>>41
It’s a problem in Japan, a country ruled by men.
The law is secondary.
It’s a problem in Japan, a country ruled by men.
The law is secondary.
44Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 15:58:31.24ID:Ia6tZbZr0
I once thought about moving to Okinawa, but it seemed too closed off so I gave up.
49Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 16:02:27.47ID:4pLz4Pym0
It doesn’t really matter what the landlord who owns the building requests. There are properties that don’t allow elderly people, and some that allow pets but others that don’t.
50Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 16:02:37.92ID:qdB3oMhS0
Isn’t it more G than LGBT? I guess it’s the T who doesn’t have construction that is disliked.
52Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 16:03:54.37ID:PKrGSQxx0
Isn’t that up to the landlord?
The landlord isn’t telling you to live there
and it’s not like you have no other place to live.
The landlord isn’t telling you to live there
and it’s not like you have no other place to live.
53Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 16:04:27.29ID:5B4o6dQr0
Wouldn’t it be better to just ban outsiders? It would be difficult for a single-family home, though.
54Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 16:04:38.81ID:I5Vasbj30
As long as there are no penalties, it’s up to the landlord.
56Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 16:05:47.25ID:ZakcYPnB0
I’m on ADSL.
57Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 16:05:48.86ID:C+Nuhiz90
If you say you don’t like LGBT then you should also ban creepy otaku, criminals, and potential criminals.
68Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 16:23:20.57ID:oJRochO20
>>57
Monkeypox
Monkeypox.
Monkeypox
Monkeypox.
59Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 16:06:29.93ID:pcUyFlOg0
What’s the situation like with things like this overseas?
62Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 16:08:32.46ID:6lSAZ/Bp0
Landlords have the right to choose their tenants, but this isn’t discrimination.
64Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 16:11:56.02ID:pThDLNqG0
As long as it doesn’t cause any trouble to the neighbors, it’s fine.
69Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 16:25:31.77ID:NLhin9g00
Even if she did have a sexual relationship, she would have identified herself as a woman, and it is the judiciary’s fault for making such a strange decision without taking the actual circumstances into consideration.
73Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 4, 2024 (Wed) 16:29:49.75ID:acONFwTH0
Do you want to make a law that says landlords have to keep quiet when renting to gay people? Old people will probably rent to you and say they’re gay or lesbian.
Other languages: 【沖縄】「LGBTは家主に相談必要」不動産会社、同意書に明記差別の意図ないと説明しているが…識者から疑問の声, [Okinawa] “Las personas LGBT necesitan consultar con su propietario’’. Una empresa de bienes raíces explica que no hay ninguna intención de discriminación como se indica en el formulario de consentimiento, pero los expertos plantean preguntas.
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