In 2040, commercial solar power may cost up to $0.24/kWh, over twice nuclear power, with thermal power needed on rainy days.
1No thanks★.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:25:00.78ID:YQSxjWtq9
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In this report, the proportion of each energy source in total power generation in fiscal 2040 is set to be:
▽Renewable energy will be “about 40% to 50%,”
▽Thermal power will be “about 30% to 40%,”
▽Nuclear power will be “about 20%.” The plan drawn up three years ago called for the proportion of renewable energy to be between 36% and 38% by fiscal 2030, but the latest draft raises this even further, positioning renewable energy as the largest energy source for the first time. (Omitted)
Solar and wind power generation
▽The amount of electricity they generate is affected by the weather,
▽and currently they have the problem of being more expensive than thermal power generation. When electricity generation from solar or wind power is insufficient, such as on rainy days or when there is no wind, it is necessary to supplement with other sources of electricity such as thermal power, which incurs costs. For these reasons, the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry estimates that as of fiscal 2040, the cost of generating electricity from “commercial solar power,” including associated costs, could be as much as 36.9 yen per kilowatt-hour, more than twice as high as nuclear power. For details, see source 2024/12/17.
In this report, the proportion of each energy source in total power generation in fiscal 2040 is set to be:
▽Renewable energy will be “about 40% to 50%,”
▽Thermal power will be “about 30% to 40%,”
▽Nuclear power will be “about 20%.” The plan drawn up three years ago called for the proportion of renewable energy to be between 36% and 38% by fiscal 2030, but the latest draft raises this even further, positioning renewable energy as the largest energy source for the first time. (Omitted)
Solar and wind power generation
▽The amount of electricity they generate is affected by the weather,
▽and currently they have the problem of being more expensive than thermal power generation. When electricity generation from solar or wind power is insufficient, such as on rainy days or when there is no wind, it is necessary to supplement with other sources of electricity such as thermal power, which incurs costs. For these reasons, the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry estimates that as of fiscal 2040, the cost of generating electricity from “commercial solar power,” including associated costs, could be as much as 36.9 yen per kilowatt-hour, more than twice as high as nuclear power. For details, see source 2024/12/17.
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8Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:31:09.37ID:UFRTFTPS0
>>1
Renewable energy generation is unstable, so a backup power source is essential. And as long as carbon dioxide is the cause of global warming, using thermal power generation as a backup for renewable energy is upsetting, and as long as we promote renewable energy, we have no choice but to promote nuclear power as well.
Renewable energy generation is unstable, so a backup power source is essential. And as long as carbon dioxide is the cause of global warming, using thermal power generation as a backup for renewable energy is upsetting, and as long as we promote renewable energy, we have no choice but to promote nuclear power as well.
55Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 19, 2024 (Thu) 01:49:28.42ID:ieYKJaGz0
>>1
It’s too expensive, I don’t need it lol.
It’s too expensive, I don’t need it lol.
72Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 19, 2024 (Thu) 03:13:44.94ID:DNmanFxZ0
>>1
If you read the whole article, it’s a smear campaign for the nuclear power interests.
It’s ridiculous to make a wish into news.
If you read the whole article, it’s a smear campaign for the nuclear power interests.
It’s ridiculous to make a wish into news.
2Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:26:13.86ID:7zCzH/X90
It’s a mystery as the costs of dismantling the nuclear power plant are not included.
21Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:40:35.04ID:ec/e7GJX0
>>2
The cost of decommissioning nuclear power plants is already included in the cost of thermal power generation.
The cost of decommissioning nuclear power plants is already included in the cost of thermal power generation.
65Security guard [lv.9].Dec. 19, 2024 (Thu) 02:26:55.39ID:yuomtJhb0
>>2
And that doesn’t even include the cost of disposing of nuclear fuel.
And that doesn’t even include the cost of disposing of nuclear fuel.
3Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:26:42.96ID:8xm36Vth0
Why hasn’t Ruri Miura been arrested?
4Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:27:06.75ID:0+ujwzv90
Solar power is not only expensive, but it also has a huge environmental impact since it requires cutting down mountains to produce it.
12Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:32:34.69ID:9fFLPJ4k0
>>4
It has to be flat. It would be better to leave it where they’re building a house now, but they’re building houses like crazy. You can put it there, right? Yes.
It has to be flat. It would be better to leave it where they’re building a house now, but they’re building houses like crazy. You can put it there, right? Yes.
5Security guard [lv.1] [Shinmekei].Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:27:07.23ID:gSfyrMRp0
When we generate electricity, we generate a lot of greenhouse gases, but is that okay?
But solar panels generate a lot of greenhouse gases during their production, don’t they?
Isn’t it pointless unless we reduce emissions overall on a global scale?
Is renewable energy even worthwhile?
But solar panels generate a lot of greenhouse gases during their production, don’t they?
Isn’t it pointless unless we reduce emissions overall on a global scale?
Is renewable energy even worthwhile?
6Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:28:36.99ID:XTnNrgzW0
Renewable energy is not likely to increase that much due to a number of problems.
67Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 19, 2024 (Thu) 02:30:42.67ID:+5cC3vIw0
>>8
As long as carbon dioxide is the cause of global warming,
it hasn’t been proven lol.
9Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:31:47.21ID:2Rkb+ZJK0
Sorry, I just looked at my electricity bill and I was being charged a renewable energy surcharge, a fee I’ve never used. I asked someone who knows about it and they said it’s a donation from poor people to rich people, but is that true? They’re taking more than 10% of my electricity bill!
61Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 19, 2024 (Thu) 02:06:38.74ID:ooXzDsXT0
>>9
This is a fee that is added to the electricity bills of customers who have no connection to solar power so that electric power companies can purchase solar-generated electricity at a high price.
This is a fee that is added to the electricity bills of customers who have no connection to solar power so that electric power companies can purchase solar-generated electricity at a high price.
75Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 19, 2024 (Thu) 03:20:44.41ID:DNmanFxZ0
>>9
If the LDP-Komeito government halts collection, Minmin will also agree since it is a public promise, and they will not have to pay.
If the LDP-Komeito government halts collection, Minmin will also agree since it is a public promise, and they will not have to pay.
11Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:32:24.30ID:wIJI01D70
Solar power is at its limit because there is no more land available and it doesn’t last until the sun goes down anyway, so it’s unstable and a stable power source is necessary.
28Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:49:55.57ID:G21luzDq0
>>11
They’re shifting to perovskite, so it looks like it’ll be better without worrying too much about land.
They’re shifting to perovskite, so it looks like it’ll be better without worrying too much about land.
29Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:50:18.08ID:6aVrAsGS0
>>11
It’s obvious that there will be a power shortage by the evening.
It’s obvious that there will be a power shortage by the evening.
13Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:34:38.14ID:KLeo+BUJ0
You should also plan a review and restructuring of the Nuclear Regulation Authority.
15Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:36:16.46ID:5CMJkhVx0
Solar panels are disliked because they ruin the natural landscape. I wish they could float the panels on the sea.
38Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 19, 2024 (Thu) 00:16:16.38ID:P6GEN6qy0
>>15
(including wives and others who have never been involved in fishing) A local fishermen’s group said, “We can’t catch any fish anymore, so pay us compensation.”
(including wives and others who have never been involved in fishing) A local fishermen’s group said, “We can’t catch any fish anymore, so pay us compensation.”
16Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:37:03.55ID:SUS9DYu10
Nuclear power plants also have high post-processing costs forever, but if they are a 24-hour power source, you can charge your EV cheaply at night with late-night electricity.
18Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:38:05.86ID:Xe0OqRC80
It’s safe and cheap compared to the trillions of yen it’s costing to clean up the Fukushima nuclear accident.
91Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 19, 2024 (Thu) 06:44:58.75ID:7tX6PHOT0
>>18
The important thing about electricity isn’t the cost, but whether it can provide a stable power supply for a long time, baldy.
If the amount of electricity generated fluctuates due to wind or sunlight, it’s no good, fatty.
The important thing about electricity isn’t the cost, but whether it can provide a stable power supply for a long time, baldy.
If the amount of electricity generated fluctuates due to wind or sunlight, it’s no good, fatty.
19Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:40:21.96ID:dIbsRn7L0
Based on the latest estimated costs of generating electricity, nuclear power generation, including the costs of decommissioning and accidents, is now in the most expensive category, on par with offshore wind power.
20Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:40:23.00ID:OxPlZUTs0
Water is Japan’s greatest resource, so why not try to generate more hydroelectric power?
53Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 19, 2024 (Thu) 01:43:49.54ID:A60d6zvj0
>>20
Hydroelectric power generation costs half as much as solar power.
The costs are also transparent, so it would be difficult for Koike Yuriko and Koizumi Junichiro.
Naoto Kan would not be able to make a living.
Hydroelectric power generation costs half as much as solar power.
The costs are also transparent, so it would be difficult for Koike Yuriko and Koizumi Junichiro.
Naoto Kan would not be able to make a living.
22Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:41:12.98ID:p5tc/ynS0
If it snows, there will be no electricity.
23Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:41:56.83ID:dIbsRn7L0
Even in places like this, we can see biased reporting by the old media, perhaps in response to the government’s wishes.
24Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:46:50.15ID:dVBBhRrz0
What happened to the technology to make oil from carbon in the air?
25Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:47:04.51ID:vrz30t0r0
The Tottori Sand Dunes, a desert area in Nevada, USA, which has no vegetation and no economic activity, should be covered with solar panels.
26Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:47:57.60ID:NvGWQRNx0
The Fukushima nuclear plant was the first to not even consider the risk of a tsunami. The US considered hurricane risk to be the biggest risk, so they had emergency power generators underground. The biggest mistake was that they kept the older early models in place because it was difficult to build new nuclear plants due to the excessive noise from anti-nuclear groups.
30Anonymous donburako rolling around.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:53:25.96ID:pWWoLxsZ0
If it’s a negative result overall, then that’s the answer.
31Anonymous donburako rolling around.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:53:29.78ID:9LXkPo040
But nuclear power plants are just hot water in the end lol. Are we really going to make it to the 22nd century with steam engines? Lol.
32Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:55:44.25ID:QZdUnTvD0
This really exposed the stupidity of Japanese bureaucrats to the world.
34Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:59:00.03ID:X8ZgXK8p0
Is this another so-called cost of ignoring the nuclear accident?
35Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 23:59:48.85ID:SwdYcFX90
Power storage.
37Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 19, 2024 (Thu) 00:16:09.99ID:JrrOkcPY0
In the first place, carbon dioxide is emitted at every stage of the process, from manufacturing the panels in China to transporting them, installing them, and recycling them. The logic of not emitting carbon dioxide when generating electricity does not hold water.
39Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 19, 2024 (Thu) 00:19:49.35ID:YCAv9Lfe0
>>37
It doesn’t matter if it’s wind or tides.
It’s not that bureaucrats are unmotivated, but rather that they lack the mindset that if something doesn’t exist now, it doesn’t exist.
It doesn’t matter if it’s wind or tides.
It’s not that bureaucrats are unmotivated, but rather that they lack the mindset that if something doesn’t exist now, it doesn’t exist.
42Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 19, 2024 (Thu) 00:28:20.50ID:m72XZaUl0
>>39
And yet solar power generation has increased unnaturally.
And yet solar power generation has increased unnaturally.
40Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 19, 2024 (Thu) 00:20:26.67ID:83SeUxtH0
Solar power should not be constructed unless adjustment capacity such as thermal power, pumped hydro, and battery storage is secured.
43Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 19, 2024 (Thu) 00:35:35.20ID:dg6OSdiY0
You need them every day, even if it’s not a rainy day.
Apparently, they can’t generate electricity at night, even if the weather is good.
Apparently, they can’t generate electricity at night, even if the weather is good.
44Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 19, 2024 (Thu) 00:46:26.65ID:i1j015Bi0
The bear comes down again.
47Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 19, 2024 (Thu) 01:12:44.94ID:rjIME30E0
It’s stupid to cut down forests for solar power generation.
48Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 19, 2024 (Thu) 01:14:09.36ID:YCAv9Lfe0
>>47
There is domestically produced iodine perovskite solar power.
The cost is 8 yen per kWh.
The bureaucrats still say it’s 30 yen and that nuclear power is cheap. This is a sickness.
There is domestically produced iodine perovskite solar power.
The cost is 8 yen per kWh.
The bureaucrats still say it’s 30 yen and that nuclear power is cheap. This is a sickness.
49Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 19, 2024 (Thu) 01:14:21.31ID:rkx8ngFN0
If you want a stable supply of electricity, you need wind or hydropower. I think even for the home, wind power is better than solar power.
Other languages: 2040年「事業用の太陽光発電」1kWhあたり最大36.9円と原子力の2倍以上高いことあり得る、雨の日等に火力等他電源が必要で, En 2040, la ”generación de energía solar comercial” costará hasta 36,9 yenes por kwh, lo que puede ser más del doble que la energía nuclear, y se necesitarán otras fuentes de energía, como la energía térmica, en los días de lluvia.
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