The solar panel industry is facing severe overproduction and price wars, causing major losses for companies like Longji Green Energy. Industry leaders call for restructuring and reducing the number of firms.
1Insect encyclopedia ★.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 18:49:42.57ID:9jQTIOrk
“There are too many players in the solar panel industry, making autonomous cooperation (to avoid extreme price competition) difficult. We need to restructure the industry by improving technology and quality, and reduce the number of companies appropriately,” Zhong Baoshen, chairman of China’s major solar panel manufacturer Longji Green Energy Technology Co., Ltd., said at a financial results briefing for the July-September 2024 period held on October 30. Mr. Kane’s remarks reflect his distress over the solar panel industry’s ongoing price wars (even at the risk of incurring losses) and overproduction. ■70% of market capitalization evaporated
Since the start of 2024, major companies in the solar panel industry have been mired in losses. Longji Green Energy recorded a net loss of approximately 1.26 billion yuan (approximately 27.1 billion yen) in the July-September period, bringing its cumulative net loss from January to September to approximately 6.5 billion yuan (approximately 139.8 billion yen). The closing price of Longji Green Energy’s shares on the Shanghai Stock Exchange on October 31 was 19.74 yuan (about 424 yen), and its market capitalization fell to about 150 billion yuan (about 3.2251 trillion yen). Three years ago, in 2021, the company’s market capitalization briefly exceeded 500 billion yuan (about 10.7502 trillion yen), but it appears that about 70% of that has evaporated. It’s not just Ryoki Green. The performance of listed companies involved in solar panels is dismal. Comparing cumulative net profits and losses from January to September, Tongwei, a major silicon raw material company, posted a loss of nearly 4 billion yuan (about 86 billion yen), and TCL Zhonghuan, a major silicon wafer company, also posted a loss of about 6 billion yuan (about 129 billion yen). Among the major solar module manufacturers, Trina Solar posted a cumulative net loss of about 850 million yuan (about 18.3 billion yen) from January to September, while JA Solar posted a loss of 480 million yuan (about 10.3 billion yen) over the same period. During the same period, JinkoSolar managed to make a profit, but its net profit was about 1.2 billion yuan (about 25.8 billion yen), a decrease of more than 80% compared to the same period last year. The main reason for the companies’ deteriorating performance is that the production capacity of solar panels far exceeds demand, causing market prices to fall unstoppable. According to TCL Central’s financial report for the July-September period, although market prices have been stabilizing since the end of August, selling prices are still below manufacturing costs throughout the entire solar panel supply chain (from raw materials to finished products). In a statement released on October 18, the China Photovoltaic Industry Association, an industry group, estimated the current manufacturing cost of solar panels to be 0.68 yuan (about 15 yen) per watt of rated output. They criticized the company for setting a minimum standard that can guarantee product performance and quality, and for bidding in a competitive bid at a price below cost, which they said was illegal. (Caixin reporter: Zhao Xin)
*The original article was published on October 31st.
Since the start of 2024, major companies in the solar panel industry have been mired in losses. Longji Green Energy recorded a net loss of approximately 1.26 billion yuan (approximately 27.1 billion yen) in the July-September period, bringing its cumulative net loss from January to September to approximately 6.5 billion yuan (approximately 139.8 billion yen). The closing price of Longji Green Energy’s shares on the Shanghai Stock Exchange on October 31 was 19.74 yuan (about 424 yen), and its market capitalization fell to about 150 billion yuan (about 3.2251 trillion yen). Three years ago, in 2021, the company’s market capitalization briefly exceeded 500 billion yuan (about 10.7502 trillion yen), but it appears that about 70% of that has evaporated. It’s not just Ryoki Green. The performance of listed companies involved in solar panels is dismal. Comparing cumulative net profits and losses from January to September, Tongwei, a major silicon raw material company, posted a loss of nearly 4 billion yuan (about 86 billion yen), and TCL Zhonghuan, a major silicon wafer company, also posted a loss of about 6 billion yuan (about 129 billion yen). Among the major solar module manufacturers, Trina Solar posted a cumulative net loss of about 850 million yuan (about 18.3 billion yen) from January to September, while JA Solar posted a loss of 480 million yuan (about 10.3 billion yen) over the same period. During the same period, JinkoSolar managed to make a profit, but its net profit was about 1.2 billion yuan (about 25.8 billion yen), a decrease of more than 80% compared to the same period last year. The main reason for the companies’ deteriorating performance is that the production capacity of solar panels far exceeds demand, causing market prices to fall unstoppable. According to TCL Central’s financial report for the July-September period, although market prices have been stabilizing since the end of August, selling prices are still below manufacturing costs throughout the entire solar panel supply chain (from raw materials to finished products). In a statement released on October 18, the China Photovoltaic Industry Association, an industry group, estimated the current manufacturing cost of solar panels to be 0.68 yuan (about 15 yen) per watt of rated output. They criticized the company for setting a minimum standard that can guarantee product performance and quality, and for bidding in a competitive bid at a price below cost, which they said was illegal. (Caixin reporter: Zhao Xin)
*The original article was published on October 31st.
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75<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 20:19:44.62ID:OZ6QhKW8
>>1
The worst thing is recycling. In Japan, too, the glass and outer frame are simply removed, and the semiconductor portion is crushed and treated as waste. When importing solar panels from China, the Chinese government must require collection (because making this mandatory for companies would pose the risk of them going bankrupt) and the cost of transportation to China must be passed on to the price in the form of tariffs.
The worst thing is recycling. In Japan, too, the glass and outer frame are simply removed, and the semiconductor portion is crushed and treated as waste. When importing solar panels from China, the Chinese government must require collection (because making this mandatory for companies would pose the risk of them going bankrupt) and the cost of transportation to China must be passed on to the price in the form of tariffs.
81<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 20:26:06.16ID:0DEIvNj5
>>1
They’re sweeping the world with their low-price offensive, and then they’re rushing themselves into a hell where they don’t make any profit.
Are you stupid?
They’re sweeping the world with their low-price offensive, and then they’re rushing themselves into a hell where they don’t make any profit.
Are you stupid?
3<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 18:53:16.38ID:uAc2W//R
Despite that, the prices of Chinese solar panels sold on Amazon haven’t gone down. It remains around 10,000 yen for 100w.
5<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 18:53:43.08ID:HxpMXwHR
If the Nikai family had been politicians, they would have been sold to Japan.
6<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 18:54:26.60ID:AtiBo6NS
The Chinese Communist Party: “It’s going according to plan.”
As long as there is a Chinese manufacturer left in the end,
it doesn’t really matter which manufacturer it is.
As a result, mountains of garbage are created.
As long as there is a Chinese manufacturer left in the end,
it doesn’t really matter which manufacturer it is.
As a result, mountains of garbage are created.
7◆65537pnpsa.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 18:56:04.05ID:liuvc0fS
>>6
It’s like a poison.
It’s like a poison.
8<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 18:57:12.54ID:Wo4aSGlm
Selling it to Japan.
12<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:01:44.35ID:Nj9A4Hoe
Shinjiro says Japan needs to support the purchases.
14<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:02:39.47ID:Bh3Pf39q
>>12
Sexy.
Sexy.
13<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:02:06.10ID:RZjmh5Tt
That’s right. It’s unstable.
16<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:03:50.57ID:URpOxMDg
It’s such a waste to have such a rare material end up as garbage…
17<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:05:52.63ID:M03a7nOd
I can’t stop, I can’t stop~♪.
18<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:06:44.49ID:0DPz27d+
Disposing of a solar system is damn expensive
If they found out, they wouldn’t install it
That’s something we knew from the start.
If they found out, they wouldn’t install it
That’s something we knew from the start.
19<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:07:06.12ID:aOXsf9ma
It’s a laughing matter that there are over 1,400 Chinese EV vehicle manufacturers lol.
20<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:07:12.76ID:B9GdQZ32
But the Japanese manufacturers are dead now…
23<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:08:35.54ID:6wd10RU3
They made a ton of money during the Democratic Party administration.
24<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:08:42.00ID:dZ6JljT1
These mega solar panels are the core of China’s interests. I laughed at Taro Kono’s behavior as a business partner, and I also laughed out loud when Junichiro Koizumi’s partner was arrested.
25<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:08:54.25ID:oo/Ou3zB
China is already producing more than the world needs. They should just put it on the market so that the price doesn’t fall like diamonds. They’re running out of money, so they’re in a situation where they have to sell their products early to recoup their investment, and they have to sell them below cost. As long as they keep selling them below cost, companies from other countries won’t be able to sell their products either, creating a vicious cycle. China is a cancer on the world.
26<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:09:52.14ID:1xfkfFll
A business that overproduces for numbers and pushes inventory onto other countries.
28<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:12:42.13ID:eaOQO1TD
It would be impossible in a country where sunlight is used or the sun sets.
30<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:17:28.97ID:oIweck3U
The incredible technological innovation known as perovskite solar cells is on the horizon,
so current solar cells are on the decline.
so current solar cells are on the decline.
38<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:32:50.61ID:hodyuGtO
>>30
I wonder if that can be attached to a parasol.
It looks like you can use it to charge a mobile battery.
I wonder if that can be attached to a parasol.
It looks like you can use it to charge a mobile battery.
40<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:33:51.03ID:AtiBo6NS
>>30
But it’s from wiki
>In 2023, the power conversion efficiency record was updated to 33.2%
Wow lol.
But it’s from wiki
>In 2023, the power conversion efficiency record was updated to 33.2%
Wow lol.
31<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:18:24.52ID:Re0wuctX
Because each company has a large amount of inventory…
32<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:19:00.93ID:3C7EdBrX
Is this the same with EVs, a state of over-competition?
33Security Guard [lv.26][Seedling].Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:20:58.72ID:5SJW7VqG
Good luck and make it a Dyson Sphere.
34<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:25:17.74ID:VM4c8mxz
Apparently it’s cheaper to use solar panels as a fence than to buy a fence.
35<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:26:49.57ID:JVLgAJau
All we have to do is get the many people to buy it cheaply.
36<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:29:40.22ID:/u509mii
The real estate bubble has burst, the EV bubble has ended, and now it’s time for the end of solar panels. To top it off, high tariffs from the US have caused the Chinese economy to completely collapse. Regional cities are unable to get energy or food, and it’s like a zombie movie.
37<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:32:30.11ID:XIw7FFDP
Is this the result of promoting dumping through overproduction even at the expense of subsidies?
41<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:33:57.88ID:3C7EdBrX
The US and Europe have started to plug the holes in our dumped exports, and China has been smugly saying that it’s making things for us and buying from us, but now we’re a superpower with so much inventory that we can’t get anyone to buy from us. Is this karma? Japan needs to do the same in part, and the people who blame the US and Europe and put down Japan are keeping quiet about this.
44<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:35:07.47ID:3C7EdBrX
If you’re going to make it into a ball and cover it, cover China instead lol.
48<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:44:04.61ID:z+TCkSb2
I wonder if Chinese-made panels will last 10 years.
51<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:48:41.55ID:yY0XFiSl
If a product from China or Korea, such as a car or solar panel, has a 10-year warranty, do you think that company will still be around in 10 years?
57<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 18, 2024 (Mon) 19:58:51.42ID:n4DV3RBH
They were successful in crushing EU manufacturers.
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