0001Flea market ★.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:16:29.21ID:RxJ4ZPXq9
In regards to the issue of 250 school counselors (SCs) working as non-regular public servants in the Tokyo Metropolitan Government being notified of their “employment termination” in January 2024, it has been learned from an interview with the legal team that 10 former and current SCs will file a lawsuit in the Tokyo District Court on October 9th against the Tokyo Metropolitan Government, seeking confirmation of their status, damages, etc., claiming that the refusal to renew their appointments is unfair. The issue of mass employment terminations has developed into a class action lawsuit. (Hatama Kaori)
The issue of termination of employment of school counselors in Tokyo is a problem surrounding the new personnel system (fiscal year appointment system) for non-regular public servants working for local governments that was established by the national government in fiscal 2020. The term of office is one fiscal year, but it can be renewed based on work performance, etc. The number of times a license can be renewed without taking the public examination is decided by the local government. The Tokyo Metropolitan Board of Education has set the limit at four times, and Tokyo SCs who had been working before 2019 will now be required to pass a public recruitment exam to continue working in 2024. According to the Tokyo Metropolitan Board of Education and other sources, 250 of the 1,096 people who took the public recruitment exam had their employment terminated. According to the complaint and other sources, the 10 people had their appointments renewed as Tokyo Metropolitan SCs for between 5 and 26 years. As the upper limit for renewal of appointments set by the Tokyo Metropolitan Board of Education was reached in 2023, he took a public examination, but was found to have “failed” and been “appointed as a replacement,” equivalent to a substitute, and was notified that he would not be appointed from 2024 onwards. Nine of the plaintiffs were unsuccessful and one was appointed as a replacement. One of the replacements was hired and began work in April. Nine are seeking the salaries they should have received, while one of the replacements is seeking the salary for the school he was responsible for, which was reduced from three to one. ◆ “Refusal to renew lacks objectively reasonable grounds”
The lawsuit claims that it is reasonable for the plaintiffs to expect their contract to be renewed in 2024, as the principal and others have asked them to continue. The refusal to renew is invalid, on the grounds that it lacks objectively reasonable grounds and is not considered appropriate in accordance with social standards. Attorney Naoto Sasayama, secretary-general of the legal team, said, “This is a job that requires experience and expertise, but the city government throws them away when it becomes inconvenient for them. “It will be a social indictment that calls into question the city’s education administration.” Regarding the selection process for the 2024 Tokyo Metropolitan SC, the Psychological Professions Union (Toshima Ward, Tokyo), a labor union made up of SCs and psychologists, has received numerous inquiries raising doubts about the selection process, such as “I was highly evaluated by the principal and answered questions smoothly in the interview, but I was still rejected.” The union had been in collective bargaining with the Tokyo Metropolitan Board of Education, demanding disclosure of the exam criteria and an explanation of the selection process that only involved interviews without taking into account work history. Tadaharu Fukuda, chief supervisor of the Tokyo Metropolitan Board of Education’s Guidance and Planning Division, said in an interview, “At this point, no lawsuit has been filed, so there is no way to comment.” ◇
◆ “Behind the SC there are children and parents who are in real trouble and need help” (omitted)
◆ “Failed” in the selection process… even though they had been working for many years (omitted)
◆ “Unstable employment” despite highly specialized work
The Local Public Service Act states that the term of employment for fiscal year employees is “within the period from the date of employment to the last day of the fiscal year.” Under this system, local governments are employing childcare workers, women’s counselors, librarians and other workers in jobs that require qualifications, expertise and experience, in a process that leaves them with unstable employment. Even if terminating employment is not legally problematic, women feel that there is an ethical problem with hurting a worker’s self-esteem and taking away their livelihood. “It’s wrong to shift the issue to individual choice by saying, ’Because we accept this type of working style, we are in no position to complain even if we are laid off.’ “I would like to argue that this is a problem with the system design.” According to the Tokyo Metropolitan Board of Education and other sources, 1,096 people took the public exam to renew their contracts. Of the 783 new applicants, 441 were accepted, while 420 people renewed their licenses without going through the public recruitment process because they had not reached the limit on the number of renewals. Including the recruitment of substitutes, in fiscal 2012 a total of 1,756 Tokyo SCs will be deployed, including 1,736 to all 2,067 public elementary, junior high and high schools, and 20 to 20 Tokyo special needs schools. Tokyo Shimbun, September 24, 2024, 6:00am.
The issue of termination of employment of school counselors in Tokyo is a problem surrounding the new personnel system (fiscal year appointment system) for non-regular public servants working for local governments that was established by the national government in fiscal 2020. The term of office is one fiscal year, but it can be renewed based on work performance, etc. The number of times a license can be renewed without taking the public examination is decided by the local government. The Tokyo Metropolitan Board of Education has set the limit at four times, and Tokyo SCs who had been working before 2019 will now be required to pass a public recruitment exam to continue working in 2024. According to the Tokyo Metropolitan Board of Education and other sources, 250 of the 1,096 people who took the public recruitment exam had their employment terminated. According to the complaint and other sources, the 10 people had their appointments renewed as Tokyo Metropolitan SCs for between 5 and 26 years. As the upper limit for renewal of appointments set by the Tokyo Metropolitan Board of Education was reached in 2023, he took a public examination, but was found to have “failed” and been “appointed as a replacement,” equivalent to a substitute, and was notified that he would not be appointed from 2024 onwards. Nine of the plaintiffs were unsuccessful and one was appointed as a replacement. One of the replacements was hired and began work in April. Nine are seeking the salaries they should have received, while one of the replacements is seeking the salary for the school he was responsible for, which was reduced from three to one. ◆ “Refusal to renew lacks objectively reasonable grounds”
The lawsuit claims that it is reasonable for the plaintiffs to expect their contract to be renewed in 2024, as the principal and others have asked them to continue. The refusal to renew is invalid, on the grounds that it lacks objectively reasonable grounds and is not considered appropriate in accordance with social standards. Attorney Naoto Sasayama, secretary-general of the legal team, said, “This is a job that requires experience and expertise, but the city government throws them away when it becomes inconvenient for them. “It will be a social indictment that calls into question the city’s education administration.” Regarding the selection process for the 2024 Tokyo Metropolitan SC, the Psychological Professions Union (Toshima Ward, Tokyo), a labor union made up of SCs and psychologists, has received numerous inquiries raising doubts about the selection process, such as “I was highly evaluated by the principal and answered questions smoothly in the interview, but I was still rejected.” The union had been in collective bargaining with the Tokyo Metropolitan Board of Education, demanding disclosure of the exam criteria and an explanation of the selection process that only involved interviews without taking into account work history. Tadaharu Fukuda, chief supervisor of the Tokyo Metropolitan Board of Education’s Guidance and Planning Division, said in an interview, “At this point, no lawsuit has been filed, so there is no way to comment.” ◇
◆ “Behind the SC there are children and parents who are in real trouble and need help” (omitted)
◆ “Failed” in the selection process… even though they had been working for many years (omitted)
◆ “Unstable employment” despite highly specialized work
The Local Public Service Act states that the term of employment for fiscal year employees is “within the period from the date of employment to the last day of the fiscal year.” Under this system, local governments are employing childcare workers, women’s counselors, librarians and other workers in jobs that require qualifications, expertise and experience, in a process that leaves them with unstable employment. Even if terminating employment is not legally problematic, women feel that there is an ethical problem with hurting a worker’s self-esteem and taking away their livelihood. “It’s wrong to shift the issue to individual choice by saying, ’Because we accept this type of working style, we are in no position to complain even if we are laid off.’ “I would like to argue that this is a problem with the system design.” According to the Tokyo Metropolitan Board of Education and other sources, 1,096 people took the public exam to renew their contracts. Of the 783 new applicants, 441 were accepted, while 420 people renewed their licenses without going through the public recruitment process because they had not reached the limit on the number of renewals. Including the recruitment of substitutes, in fiscal 2012 a total of 1,756 Tokyo SCs will be deployed, including 1,736 to all 2,067 public elementary, junior high and high schools, and 20 to 20 Tokyo special needs schools. Tokyo Shimbun, September 24, 2024, 6:00am.
「都合悪くなると使い捨て」大量雇い止め問題で東京都に賠償求め提訴へ 「非正規」スクールカウンセラー:東京新聞 TOKYO Web
東京都の非正規公務員として働くスクールカウンセラー(SC)250人が2024年1月に「雇い止め」の通知を受けた問題で、元職と現職の都S...
0021Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:30:14.74ID:4a9XaSJt0
>>1
Koizumi Shinjiro, who is not yet at the level of a Diet member, should also be terminated immediately!
Koizumi Shinjiro, who is not yet at the level of a Diet member, should also be terminated immediately!
0023Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:31:16.73ID:Z6VFZr6j0(1/2)
>>1
Did you agree to the contract from the beginning?
That’s difficult.
Even if you look at the contents, you can’t say that they go against public order, common sense, or morals.
It’s a proper employment contract.
Did you agree to the contract from the beginning?
That’s difficult.
Even if you look at the contents, you can’t say that they go against public order, common sense, or morals.
It’s a proper employment contract.
0105Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 08:21:04.20ID:4Wjltnby0
>>1
In the first place, you can’t get hired unless you’re a non-regular worker
If you complain about something like this, you’ll never get hired again.
In the first place, you can’t get hired unless you’re a non-regular worker
If you complain about something like this, you’ll never get hired again.
0004Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:18:32.37ID:M3TQKvH40
Non-regular wages should be higher than regular wages.
0011Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:22:52.98ID:V5SSQbRa0(1/2)
>>4
There are two types of non-regular workers: those who can do what anyone can do, like part-timers, and those who are used to temporarily fill in the gaps in labor, and those who are hired temporarily to fill in the gaps in labor.
You’re right about the latter, but the former are cheap, right?
If you want to be treated like a regular employee, you can become a regular employee, and if you want better treatment than that, you can become a specialized, hard-to-replace employee.
If you can only do things that anyone can do and can only be a non-regular worker, it’s no use demanding full-fledged treatment…
There are two types of non-regular workers: those who can do what anyone can do, like part-timers, and those who are used to temporarily fill in the gaps in labor, and those who are hired temporarily to fill in the gaps in labor.
You’re right about the latter, but the former are cheap, right?
If you want to be treated like a regular employee, you can become a regular employee, and if you want better treatment than that, you can become a specialized, hard-to-replace employee.
If you can only do things that anyone can do and can only be a non-regular worker, it’s no use demanding full-fledged treatment…
0005Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:20:56.17ID:mmbsgB9Y0(1/5)
IT companies hire independent contractors for this purpose because they need to cut ties once development is complete.
0006Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:21:24.33ID:1kIpAK2c0
I wish school counselors and other counseling types that depend on compatibility
would be rotated more regularly.
would be rotated more regularly.
0007Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:21:35.77ID:QdvWZn/o0
We should just cut the salaries of psychiatrists who just prescribe medication and give the money to counselors.
0008Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:21:49.06ID:sA8egMWT0
When my section chief (34 years old) told a temp worker (47 years old, single, bald, from the bubble generation) “Hey, that temp worker, come over here and do this,” the man (47 years old, single, bald, from the bubble generation) suddenly grabbed the section chief and said “Why are you talking to me like that? Right?” The other employees tried to stop him, but the matter went up the ranks, and after hearing the details from both sides, the temp worker (47 years old, single, bald, from the bubble generation) was fired and the matter was resolved by giving a stern warning to the temp agency, but I never thought that a grown man would be so belligerent and abusive without even knowing his position. I was shocked that there are people who don’t even have common sense. It’s impossible to get a regular job for someone like this.
0019Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:28:17.66ID:MzEh4rAo0
>>8
We also hired a temp worker in his 40s, but within a week of starting,
he came to us for advice about being bullied by a senior full-time employee in his 30s,
so we asked the temp agency sales representative to replace him with someone else because it seemed like a bit of a hassle.
We also hired a temp worker in his 40s, but within a week of starting,
he came to us for advice about being bullied by a senior full-time employee in his 30s,
so we asked the temp agency sales representative to replace him with someone else because it seemed like a bit of a hassle.
0064Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:57:40.35ID:UR6SnbM10
>>8
I see, so you were the temp worker who got laid off.
I see, so you were the temp worker who got laid off.
0009Security Guard [lv.2] [Sprout].Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:22:34.45ID:0JwpYOgk0
If Shinjiro Koizumi becomes prime minister, you will be able to get money when you are fired.
0010Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:22:52.68ID:YmDnAM8S0
Unless a law protecting non-regular employment is created, the current situation of non-regular employment will not change. Because the law and the environment are being abused at the national level.
0013Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:25:05.01ID:+quoMy4+0
✕ Employment termination
○ Contract period expires.
○ Contract period expires.
0032Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:41:19.30ID:In9b/HJ50
>>13
It seems like it was used for political purposes.
It seems like it was used for political purposes.
0020Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:28:50.26ID:JdpLiDPP0
Well, it’s non-regular, so even if you get it in January, it’s not like you have to keep it for the rest of your life, even with Yakult.
0056Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:56:22.51ID:OwQf/drJ0
>>21
All the opposition parties.
All the opposition parties.
0022Security guard [lv.30].Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:30:53.92ID:V6rSOFnk0
Aren’t you allowed to exercise your life sentence after the sixth year?
Although, most sentences may only last for five years.
Although, most sentences may only last for five years.
0112Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 08:23:12.14ID:cS1rfkAi0
>>22
After five years, you’re reset and assigned to a different department, even if it’s the same company.
After five years, you’re reset and assigned to a different department, even if it’s the same company.
0025Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:33:42.01ID:Qrd6CYxm0
The future Shinjiro sought.
0031Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:40:53.80ID:CSBFofEF0
>>25
When did Koike retire?
When did Koike retire?
0026Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:37:27.04ID:uVlMUlEu0
There have also been comments that since school counselors in the city are well-treated and very popular, it is wrong to give preferential treatment simply to those with more experience. We need to open the door to talented people who want to do it.
0027Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:37:51.49ID:cQboRsBe0
People who complain are basically people who think they’re special or the hero. If you think you have the ability, you should start your own business.
0035Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:42:39.94ID:Q4qyGTTI0
>>27
Oh, that’s the kind of macho opinion that’s so popular on this board.
Oh, that’s the kind of macho opinion that’s so popular on this board.
0028Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:38:28.19ID:2ogfIb3D0(1/2)
Relax employment regulations, eliminate non-regular employees, make everyone full-time, and just cut people. If everyone is cut equally based on ability and demand, it makes sense.
0029Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:39:01.88ID:WR/Daudq0
The revision of the Dispatch Workers Act and the increase in non-regular workers are good actions that have advanced employment fluidity in Japan.
0030Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:40:08.53ID:V4cCzs1n0(1/2)
But that’s what non-regular work is like.
0033Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:42:12.27ID:M2ayxNsM0
That’s the system for fiscal year employees, so I guess they didn’t hear about it during the interview, so your employment won’t be terminated. The job posting at Hello Work says the maximum term is four years.
0034Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:42:35.54ID:czBE5sD60
Get a comment from Heizo.
0037Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:43:27.03ID:LNuv00gN0
While you’re there, complain to Chinjiro too, who is trying to relax regulations on his own.
0039Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:44:28.15ID:+5u5Qt7e0
They’re just throwing away that loser mentality.
0040Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:44:58.60ID:iXoIlCBX0(1/5)
At the American company where I worked, the non-regular and part-time workers at the time were either made full-time employees or fired. The personnel adjustments were made in the form of restructuring, with entire departments being eliminated (of course, full-time employees were also fired). Companies also need measures to adjust their workforce, but at the same time, workers want full-time status. It’s like a compromise. However, even full-time employees are subject to restructuring, so it appears that everyone is non-regular. By the way, it is said that the average American changes jobs 4-5 times in their lifetime.
0043Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:46:15.08ID:EdWZbaY+0(1/2)
Why January
Until March?
Normally
A school counselor would be needed.
Until March?
Normally
A school counselor would be needed.
0047Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:48:45.37ID:ACArRV8E0(1/4)
Every time I see a thread like this I think about how self-conceited full-time employees at Japanese companies are.
0069Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:59:31.34ID:6DTjmXE10(1/2)
>>47
That’s why Koizumi is trying to demote them to non-regular status.
That’s why Koizumi is trying to demote them to non-regular status.
0051Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:52:58.58ID:DarsXO+J0
The weak yen is accelerating restructuring. The labor shortage is now a lie.
0057Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:56:59.90ID:iXoIlCBX0(3/5)
>>51
There’s a labor shortage in nursing care.
It’s a different field of work.
There’s a labor shortage in nursing care.
It’s a different field of work.
0052Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 07:54:12.11ID:6htWKA7/0
That’s what non-regular people are like.
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