Economist “The truth is, insiders can do whatever they want in the stock market. “Uninformed individual shareholders are free fodder.”

Japanese economy
0001Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.10] [Sprout] still keeps moving.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:48:15.24ID:IaQkRZT40
Is this for real?
0002Anonymous security guard [lv.15] still moves.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:48:45.07ID:ce625uDS0
It’s common sense.
0003Anonymous Security Guard [lv.15] [new] still keeps moving.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:48:53.64ID:GYvFI+mo0
Of course.
0004Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.10] [Sprout] still keeps moving.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:48:54.86ID:IaQkRZT40
There are many puzzling price movements, but no arrests have been made.
0005Anonymous security guard [lv.14] still moves.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:49:23.97ID:Q9ZgUk/Y0
Kobayashi Pharmaceutical, for example, did not drop as much as it should before the announcement.
0014Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.10] [Sprout] still keeps moving.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:50:55.17ID:IaQkRZT40
>>5
Recently, Mac House opened a gap and fell before releasing negative news, and Atom, a group company of Kappa Sushi, mysteriously increased trading activity and fell the day before it announced a 50% discount on special offers.
0006Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.10] [Sprout] still keeps moving.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:49:28.35ID:IaQkRZT40
What is it about people saying they will never tolerate insiders and will catch them, so they can enjoy investing in stocks without worry?
0032Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.12] [Me] still keeps moving.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 12:02:24.99ID:VsM6Bpbs0
>>6
※Limited to individual investors.
0056Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.8] [Sprout] continues to move.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 12:19:46.26ID:YHtzAgIo0
>>6
Whether you can definitely catch it or not is another matter.
0007Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.10] [Sprout] still keeps moving.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:49:28.88ID:7apAHqrI0
There’s no way to prevent it.
0008Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.3] [Sprout] continues to move.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:49:30.75ID:pgbtFdlA0
You could do whatever you wanted on Itadaki Street too.
0018Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.10] [Sprout] still keeps moving.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:54:07.72ID:XY3LKJZu0
>>8
The guy who sells 10 shares at a time lol.
0009Anonymous security guard [lv.25] still moves.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:49:31.42ID:PVnLVXAm0
I’m an index futures trader, watching from the sidelines.
0010Security guard [lv.7].Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:49:37.45ID:aWXUnP+40
Well then, we have no choice but to do indexing.
0011Anonymous security guard [lv.32] still moves.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:50:19.94ID:kFSDauaT0
Whether someone is an insider or not is up to the authorities to decide, so they can do whatever they want.
0012Anonymous security guard [lv.14] still moves.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:50:25.53ID:OodejNl40
I knew it.
0013Anonymous security guard [lv.20] still moves.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:50:43.87ID:Ccuf6rag0
There seem to be a ton of national civil servants doing this.
0015Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.3] [Sprout] continues to move.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:52:04.61ID:7rHCbdqb0
It’s a common saying that 90% of amateur investors in stocks end up losing money.
0016Anonymous security guard [lv.18] still moves.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:52:58.22ID:wNFjI/4bp
Do you really think that the higher-ups who have the information wouldn’t do it?
0017Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.13] [Seedling] continues to move.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:54:06.80ID:jFuBUTZY0
Recently, there was a culprit who used a Yahoo Finance message board to inflate stock prices.
0019Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.15] [Me] still keeps moving.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:54:39.40ID:PMi2qOgD0
They just catch them occasionally as a warning to let off some steam.
0023Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.10] [Sprout] still keeps moving.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:55:56.40ID:IaQkRZT40
>>19
It’s like catching someone speeding, so I guess they’ll just have to do some work in their free time.
0020Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.2] [Sprout] continues to move.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:54:59.22ID:OGVUOEjv0
Honestly, it’s okay if it’s just for a unit, right?
0021Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.5] [Sprout] continues to move.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:55:33.76ID:D39oZjqJ0
Of course it is. With a country this corrupt, do you think they would be so honest as to protect other countries or any industry?
0022Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.5] [Seedling] continues to move.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:55:36.88ID:s/uSVC8E0
If the taxi driver happens to overhear a conversation between two customers, he’s safe because there’s no guarantee that the customer is an employee.
0024Security guard [lv.7].Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:58:03.06ID:aWXUnP+40
In the first place, it would be better to abandon the assumption that social rules are being followed in a healthy manner. Every industry, to a greater or lesser extent, violates established laws in order to generate profits.
0025Anonymous security guard [lv.25] still moves.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:58:25.06ID:RgjiFwHl0
Even if it looks like insider trading no matter how you look at it, there must be some loophole that makes it legally safe.
0026Anonymous security guard [lv.13] still moves.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:58:53.65ID:gm+2fX3I0
Individual investors who are driven by hindsight and emotions cannot always win.
0027Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.12] [Me] still keeps moving.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:59:16.33ID:VsM6Bpbs0
I got caught a few times. I was crying because it was going to drop so much, but the next day I got it cheaper. It was a big company.
0028Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.3] [Sprout] continues to move.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 11:59:29.77ID:XfqxirHm0
Economists don’t say that.
0029Anonymous security guard [lv.23] still moves.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 12:01:33.19ID:F85ggDCz0
As national elections approach, there are stocks that fluctuate wildly in order to raise funds for politicians’ election expenses.
0047Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.5] [Seedling] continues to move.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 12:13:35.24ID:s/uSVC8E0
>>29
Diet members are required to disclose their stock holdings, but their relatives are not considered ordinary citizens.
0030Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.13] [Seedling] continues to move.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 12:02:00.39ID:ilraukvbp
This is not insider trading, but it is price inflation caused by spreading rumors.

ヒューマン・メタボローム・テクノロジーズ(株)株式に係る風説の流布に対する課徴金納付命令の決定について
Jump@5ch
0031Anonymous security guard [lv.20] still moves.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 12:02:11.48ID:nOnjaG0y0
To be honest, if you’re a salaryman making pocket money, you can do insider trading as much as you want and you’ve never been caught.
0033Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.11] [Sprout] continues to move.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 12:02:40.44ID:IaQkRZT40
Is there some kind of pressure that keeps the media from saying that insiders are free to do whatever they want in the stock market?
0034Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.3] [Sprout] continues to move.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 12:03:59.09ID:XfqxirHm0
>>33
Maybe they call market manipulation insider trading?
0035Anonymous security guard [lv.6] still moves.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 12:04:00.37ID:IM37PGMH0
This is why there are no specialized places to teach investing at any university, and only shady online counselors are available.
0036Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.2] [Sprout] continues to move.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 12:04:09.20ID:JHRGwqWG0
That’s true.
0037Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.5] [Seedling] continues to move.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 12:04:44.48ID:5dniPQ4w0
Is it possible that such content itself is fraudulent?
But I often hear that even if stocks go down, they will go up eventually, so you’ll never lose, so I guess you won’t lose anything.
0052Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.4] [Meru] continues to move.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 12:16:23.80ID:IPbhdE6od
>>37
It’s amazing that it seems like anything could happen when Japan’s largest political party is so deeply involved with a cult religion.
0038Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.6] [Sprout] continues to move.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 12:07:15.46ID:KnBNDoYv0
This is no joke, seriously. If Yahoo leaks news about a company related to Justice’s relatives, you’d better sell within 3 months. The reason they leak the news is to maintain the stock price.
0039Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.2] [Sprout] continues to move.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 12:07:16.73ID:JHRGwqWG0
This is like a bunch of ignorant non-paying gamers who don’t realize they’re just feeding off of social games, taking on the early adopters and heavy spenders who have the information.
0041Anonymous security guard [lv.19] still moves.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 12:08:16.71ID:b1qgAJvK0
If it’s around 1 million yen, you won’t lose, but if it’s a crapshoot of tens of millions, you’ll probably panic just because you have an unrealized loss.
0042Anonymous security guard [lv.6] still moves.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 12:08:55.63ID:IM37PGMH0
It’s generally healthier to think that everyone who invests is making money in a dirty way. It’s not a question of whether they do it or not.
0043Anonymous security guard [lv.16] still moves.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 12:09:10.26ID:3cV1jRQ90
It’s obvious that if you trade stocks, you’ll see plenty of stock prices moving due to insider trading
and they’ll never be prosecuted
so whoever does the insider trading is the winner.
0044Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.6] [Sprout] continues to move.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 12:12:01.24ID:ZvafT1ul0
Korean content seems to be super popular, so they advertise it on a lot of news sites at once, and then when it dies down, they quickly disappear, just like they do with social games. Let’s learn from this.
0045Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.4] [Sprout] continues to move.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 12:12:10.72ID:iDSq5TEl0
It is not a false claim that stocks are risky. So does that mean savings alone is enough?
0046Anonymous security guard [lv.23] still moves.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 12:12:13.67ID:T5xzHi990
I work in a position where I have insider interests, but the amount of investment an average office worker would make is not worth the risk of losing my job and being fined a huge amount, and even if I were able to invest a large amount, it still wouldn’t be worth it when I consider the possibility of losing my status and assets.
0048Anonymous security guard [lv.27] still moves.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 12:13:35.39ID:EejT5DZa0
It doesn’t matter to ordinary people though, since if you do it with small change you can remora without being noticed.
0060Anonymous security guard [lv.17] still moves.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 12:22:18.48ID:FC4stD2x0
>>48
The difference in seed money is so great that even if you think you’re making a profit, the gap will continue to widen.
0049Still, the anonymous ball keeps moving.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 12:14:41.25ID:IPbhdE6od
In the long term it won’t affect you personally, but in the short term you may die.
0050Still, the anonymous ball keeps moving.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 12:14:54.22ID:Q4SFawb80
Those who trade stocks understand that the rules allow those with information and power to cheat as much as they want, right?
0053Still, the Anonymous Security Guard [Lv.4] [Meru] continues to move.Oct. 13, 2024 (Sun) 12:16:46.86ID:IPbhdE6od
Sakura Internet people lol.
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Other languages: 経済学者「実は株式市場はインサイダーやり放題なんです。情弱個人株主はタダのエサですよ」, Economista “En realidad, los insiders pueden hacer lo que quieran en el mercado de valores. Los accionistas individuales antipáticos son un cebo libre”.

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