Japan’s GDP Per Capita Falls Behind: Thailand and Vietnam Catching Up

Japanese economy

Japan’s GDP per capita hits a historic low, trailing behind peers. Learn why Thailand and Vietnam are set to overtake.

1Nanahara Tandai★.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:30:18.14ID:zGGaLVwl9
“In the near future, we will be overtaken by Thailand and Vietnam” Japan’s GDP per capita is at its lowest ever ranking… What is the root cause of the evil that has made Japan an “ultra-economically stagnant nation”?
Shueisha Online 2024.12.30
On December 23rd of this year, the Cabinet Office announced an estimate that Japan’s dollar-denominated nominal gross domestic product (GDP) per capita will be $33,849 in 2023. This figure ranks 22nd out of 38 OECD (Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development) member countries for the second consecutive year, lower than South Korea, which is in 21st place. And its 22nd ranking is the lowest since comparable data became available in 1980. ■Japan is the “one and only country with an extremely depressed economy”
What do these figures actually mean? And what are the causes lurking behind the scenes? We spoke with Professor Satoshi Fujii of Kyoto University Graduate School (Specializing in Urban Social Engineering), who served as Special Advisor to the Cabinet during the second Abe Cabinet. First of all, how do you view the current GDP figure, which is lower than that of South Korea? “For Japanese people over the age of 40, our neighboring country, South Korea, was once an overwhelmingly poorer and less developed country than Japan. But that was a long time ago. For several years now, Japan’s starting salaries for university graduates have been overtaken by South Korea, and with the Japanese economy continuing to stagnate, it was only a matter of time before South Korea overtook Japan’s GDP per capita. So I feel like, ‘The time has finally come.'” (Professor Fujii, same below)
But to be honest, I’m not sure how alarming this result should be… What on earth does this number mean? “Japan has not grown at all for the past 25 years, and not only has average wages not increased much, they have actually been declining gradually. Many people in this country take this for granted, but our country is the only one in the world that is experiencing such a slump. Since 1997, when the economic growth rate was raised to 5%, it has been by far the lowest. Japan’s average economic growth rate since 1997 has been just 0.3%. This is an incredibly low level, with growth of only 3% even over the course of 10 years. In contrast, the world as a whole is continuing to grow at an average annual rate of 4.7%, expanding 1.51 times in 10 years. Even Greece, which has the second-worst growth rate after Japan, has grown at an average annual rate of 2.1%, or 21% over the past 10 years. On the other hand, South Korea’s average growth rate is just over 5%, which is only slightly higher than the world average, so South Korea is not particularly a “super-growth country.” In conclusion, the fact that Japan has been overtaken by South Korea is an inevitable consequence of Japan being the “one and only country with an extremely sluggish economy,” and we need to understand with a sense of how little economic growth we have achieved.”
■The trigger was the consumption tax hike in 1997
Japan has been called the “one and only country with an extremely sluggish economy,” but what caused this? Professor Fujii bluntly states that “it is government negligence,” but from a macroeconomic perspective, the background to this can be divided into three stages. The first is a change in “market equilibrium.” “Economic growth occurs when demand exceeds supply across a nation. If there is high demand, then essentially all of the goods and services produced in each industry will be sold, which will inevitably lead to increased sales, higher wages, and at the same time, rising prices. And higher wages will lead to increased consumption and investment by citizens and businesses. In other words, as long as demand exceeds supply, the process of “increased demand → rising wages → further increased demand” and the process of “increased demand → increased supply” will proceed in parallel, and the economy will grow.”
The second is “deflationary policies” caused by a lack of demand. “On the other hand, if demand is lower than supply, the exact opposite process will occur. The cycle goes like this: “Lack of demand → Unsold goods → Sluggish sales and falling prices → Falling wages → Further lack of demand.” This is how the economy declines, and Japan has been in this kind of deflation since 1997.”
The third reason is the consumption tax increase, which exceeds the rate of wage growth. “Even when looking at the GDP graph, Japan has undergone a major shift from ‘economic growth’ to ‘economic stagnation’ since 1997, when the consumption tax was increased. The shortage of demand in 1997 was caused by the consumption tax being raised from 3% to 5%. Strictly speaking, in a situation where the growth rate was extremely sluggish due to the collapse of the bubble economy, the consumption tax was raised to a level of 2%, far exceeding the annual wage increase rate of only 1% or so, and Japan fell into a deflationary recession due to a lack of demand.” *Source below
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「近い将来、タイやベトナムにも抜かれる」日本の1人あたりGDPが過去最低順位に…今や『“超”経済低迷国家』となった諸悪の根源とは | 集英社オンライン | ニュースを本気で噛み砕け
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5Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:31:13.99ID:tUjGTzix0
>>1
The reason Japan’s GDP isn’t increasing is because Japan is in deflation. And the reason Japan is in deflation is because more people are becoming dependent on social security (taxes) for their livelihood. Even if money is distributed to people who rely on social security, such as pensioners and those on welfare, and whose incomes do not increase through economic activity, they will try to maximize the effect of that money by purchasing cheaper products. Trading companies trying to meet that demand then import cheaper substitutes from third countries,
filling the Japanese market with cheaper goods. Manufacturing industries that cater to domestic demand respond to deflation by reducing employee wages in order to combat rising import prices of raw materials. For Japan to overcome deflation and increase its GDP, it has no choice but to either use exports and inbound tourism to absorb overseas inflation into the country or cut social security spending. The ones who are leading Japan into decline are the Democratic Party, which destroyed the export industry with its policy of an extremely strong yen, and those who are broadly interpreting Article 25 of the Constitution and making social security a sanctuary.
23Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:34:28.50ID:T6fLQgYY0
>>1
Weak yen
Inflation
Price gougers
Middlemen and cut corners
Investment fraudsters
Politicians and their collusive companies and organizations and their employees
Tax-sucking welfare-grubbing freak
F-run NEETs who are picky about work conditions and work locations
Moms with vested interests in the declining birthrate
That’s about it.
3Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:30:45.60ID:WArLF2CR0
How did this happen?
6Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:31:30.66ID:rTb1AKIi0
I think it’s not Japan but me. I don’t know.
9Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:31:43.35ID:pnLoPX1a0
It’s already been removed.
10Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:32:08.43ID:fShgreZj0
The Imperial Family has 16 members. Of these,
four are over 80 years old, four are in their 60s, five are unmarried women (including Aiko), and only three are anything else.
Those over 80 will soon die. The four unmarried women will lose their imperial status upon marriage. This brings the royal family to eight members. I can even see it disappearing naturally, it’s fun lol.
11Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:32:11.41ID:WpgAp0hL0
Takenaka said it too, right? Chinese ladies are amazing. I’m working hard to earn money to send my younger brother to college.
12Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:32:24.55ID:WKPKLfzN0
It’s a cheap country and the people are shallow too. They have that smirk typical of con artists.
18Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:33:59.37ID:u7C4wjEC0
First of all, let’s really do something about this pachinko addict.
19Security Guard [lv.7] [Sprout].Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:34:03.15ID:Mrcx0WGt0
Japan’s debt as a percentage of GDP is by far the highest in the world, and if interest rates rise even a little, interest payments will snowball every time we refinance.
20Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:34:06.69ID:XiBB+uYS0
Work style reform!
21Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:34:10.15ID:fShgreZj0
Another boring slogan bashing the Ministry of Finance, you incompetent people. The US military in Japan and the Imperial family are sucking tons of money out of the Japs, which is the cause of the recession. Idiot.
30Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:35:07.89ID:Un1cEsLA0
>>21
No
It’s because they waste money on old people and the countryside
If you know math you’ll understand.
22Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:34:22.23ID:aTyCky4i0
Muscular.
24Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:34:33.59ID:aTyCky4i0
The stiffness comes rushing in.
25Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:34:44.00ID:aTyCky4i0
There’s no time to escape.
26Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:34:55.89ID:lBlSVm7s0
Apparently, a professor at a university overseas teaches that raising taxes due to deflation will harm Japan. He’s being used as an example of an idiot.
52Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:37:07.77ID:Rthsi2sL0
>>26
At Canadian universities, it is taught as the only example of a country in the world that fell purely due to policy failure. The lecture ends with, “Let’s all thank God that we were not born in Japan.”
27Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:34:58.74ID:SaOgo2Eh0
Thank you to the Liberal Democratic Party.
28Security guard [lv.30].Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:35:05.45ID:lhQ5/PfN0
But Japan has four seasons and you can drink the tap water, right?
38Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:35:57.03ID:xHm8eO/v0
>>28
Isn’t the tap water contaminated?
39Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:36:03.80ID:ISkaQyvB0
>>28
It looks like there will be only two seasons instead of four.
40Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:36:04.60ID:MA4z1XCR0
>>28
Men migrate to other countries to work, and women, from minors to old hags, are prostitutes.
What a beautiful country.
79Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:38:45.43ID:Rthsi2sL0
>>28
It’s not autumn anymore and our tap water is contaminated with pifus.
32Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:35:13.56ID:67IB/z7F0
In 20 years’ time, when all these penniless Ice Age people become elderly, this country is going to be a terrible place.
33Security Guard [lv.7] [Sprout].Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:35:14.46ID:Mrcx0WGt0
People with low education say things that don’t make sense, like “Japan is in a huge amount of debt and we shouldn’t raise the consumption tax.”
81Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:38:54.68ID:rNpME/O/0
>>33
If it were all done domestically, they’d just print yen,
but I’d be putting aside the fact that no one would buy government bonds with such low interest rates that they only pay the interest.
34Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:35:25.03ID:ZH5kbuit0
I’m also amazed at Takaichi, but they’re all party members, so I wouldn’t call them citizens lol.
36Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:35:40.46ID:XCrOGp+t0
It’s no good not giving you the motivation to improve. People with incomes of around 10 million yen are treated as wealthy and taxed heavily, making the overall income low. Poor people make a fuss when there is a slight disparity and hold others back. There is no such thing as the Japan Dream.
37Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:35:55.19ID:6+cyMXDQ0
Universities make money from liberal arts, there’s a middleman system in place to support liberal arts students, the country is built on tourism for the liberal arts students, and civil service reform is impossible because liberal arts students resist.
42Security Guard [lv.7] [Sprout].Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:36:21.67ID:Mrcx0WGt0
We should just raise the consumption tax to 30%. It’s a mistake to only tax those who produce.
43Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:36:25.67ID:MK9FyUTX0
Even after all this, the net-uyos still insist that a weak yen is right.
44Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:36:26.89ID:FmbFeOH70
The hellish days of the Democratic Party
97 yen per liter of gas
1,780 yen for 5 kg of rice
160 yen for a Big Cup Noodles
1.1 million yen for a minicar
90,000 yen for a moped
59,800 yen for an iPhone
3,000 yen for a plane ticket from Tokyo to Okinawa
6,000 yen for a one-night stay at an APA hotel.
97Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:40:08.21ID:ISkaQyvB0
>>44
It’s the best for the Japanese people.
46Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:36:35.40ID:N93+esB60
It’s because they can’t speak out overseas. How proud do they have to be to withdraw several businesses that have no international competitiveness and give them away even though they’re on the decline?
49Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:36:57.05ID:IecwGLJf0
The problem is that non-regular workers’ wages are lower than regular workers’.
51Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:37:07.28ID:8MMnaiHd0
The root of all evil is a weak yen. Only developing countries develop with a weak currency. Japan right now has no chance of developing as it is losing its talent.
65Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:38:03.49ID:2GPHltgt0
>>51
They’re trying to cut taxes, so the yen will depreciate even more.
82Security guard [lv.8].Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:38:57.95ID:IdL7iPAZ0
>>51
In the first place, it is normal for the yen to weaken when government bonds are issued.
53Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:37:07.85ID:3BlMRTpR0
And we’re still on the path of monetary easing and a weak yen to boost stock prices. It’s already been decided that no one except the upper classes will be saved, so ordinary people should give up.
80Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:38:48.14ID:MK9FyUTX0
>>53
It’s unbearable that the weak yen, which only benefits the wealthy and business elite, is being supported by poor right-wing netizens.
64Security Guard [lv.7] [Sprout].Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:38:02.07ID:Mrcx0WGt0
If we raise the consumption tax, prices, which are already not rising, will automatically rise and tax revenues will increase, and there is no more effective method than this.
67Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:38:18.60ID:2Pvx5TFs0
Apparently there was a demonstration to dismantle the Ministry of Finance.
73Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:38:29.74ID:m+CD1o1d0
That’s because the Ministry of Finance is impoverishing its own people.
74Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 30, 2024 (Mon) 20:38:31.29ID:9YCpToe10
There are just too many elderly people, so there’s nothing we can do until the number of elderly people decreases.
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