Hometown tax donations “Tokyo’s autonomy is sinking” – outflow of money from within the city approaches 1 trillion yen

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0001Capital Region Tiger ★.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:18:40.65ID:9trb59wE9
“It is a wrong system that will undermine Tokyo’s autonomy.” Akio Maekawa (78), mayor of Tokyo’s Nerima ward, does not hide his indignation. As a result of ward residents making hometown tax donations to other municipalities, approximately 5 billion yen in taxes was lost in fiscal 2024. “It’s the cost of rebuilding one school,” he said emphatically. In Tokyo, the outflow of tax revenue due to resident tax deductions for donors continues to increase. The total revenue decrease for fiscal 2012 will amount to 189.9 billion yen. The cumulative total since the system was launched has reached 945.2 billion yen, fast approaching 1 trillion yen. Local Allocation Tax Grants…
August 20, 2024 5:00 [Members-only article].

ふるさと納税「東京の自治が沈没」 都内の流出、1兆円迫る ふるさと納税1兆円時代(2) - 日本経済新聞
「東京の自治を沈没させる間違った制度だ」。東京都練馬区長の前川燿男(78)は憤りを隠さない。区民が他自治体にふるさと納税をしたことで、2024年度に約50億円の税金が流出した。「学校1校を建て替える費用だ」と語気を強める。都内では寄付者の住...
0012Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:24:48.27ID:ji4w7g2A0
>>1
The problem with hometown tax is that the money that should have gone to the local government is simply sucked into the hands of middlemen.
It’s a good thing that Tokyo’s local government’s tax revenue is reduced. All the metropolitan area has ever done is steal from the residents of other regions. Tokyo, the prefecture with the highest income in Japan, has a birth rate of 1.08, while Okinawa, the prefecture with the lowest income in Japan, has a birth rate of 1.80.
The key to improving the birth rate is whether families and communities can help each other raise children, and policies and subsidies are only secondary factors that supplement that. All we need to do is eliminate the concentration of people in cities, which cuts off people’s ability to help each other.
To achieve this, we need to impose special taxes on cities and distribute them to rural areas.
The disparity in the value of one vote between urban and depopulated areas is a public welfare.
0020Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:26:48.09ID:6B2ZzLN10
>>1
It’s not a big deal because it will break up the over-concentration in Tokyo.
0024Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:28:31.20ID:PBoL0fWX0(1/10)
>>1
This needs to be reconsidered
The local areas don’t seem to be particularly grateful to the urban areas
It’s just become a money-grubbing thing 🤑
In some wards, resident services are apparently in a critical state.
0031Security Guard [lv.8] [Sprout].Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:31:07.81ID:4zRUtWy50
>>1
Then raise the ward tax and lower the services, you idiot?
0058Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:43:31.54ID:HdgwyGF30(1/2)
>>1
If it becomes inconvenient, fewer people will come, so that’s just right.
0002Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:20:36.06ID:8Ft2jBYQ0
It’s just that Tokyo residents are vulgar.
0003Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:21:45.03ID:4t+jnC6P0
Of course, rather than using metropolitan taxes for Olympic corruption, people would rather pay taxes for local areas.
0004Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:22:32.41ID:jbspHE2m0
You traitorous citizens of Tokyo should realize they are a population black hole and disperse.
0005Security guard [lv.27].Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:22:40.38ID:RUOlxfVH0
Hometown tax is just tax evasion.
It’s a system created for high-income earners to legally evade taxes.
Each local government competes to provide items with high tax rebates for hometown tax.
As a result, the total tax revenue that the local government can receive is greatly reduced.
Naturally, when tax revenue decreases, they have no choice but to borrow money or lower the quality of local government services.
Only high-income earners can receive high rebates.
The idiots who are happy to use hometown tax should realize that they are causing the decline of Japan as a whole by evading the law.
Low-income earners should realize that they are being deceived by high-income earners.
This system should be criticized.
0069Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:46:08.36ID:v540tiO80(1/2)
>>5
These high-income earners are also cutting taxes in the areas where they live and worsening public services, showing how stupid they are.
0085Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:50:52.65ID:aZAN46Ax0
>>5
So the people complaining about hometown tax are the losers, the poor lol.
0007Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:22:54.58ID:5t92pWZ10
Regional revitalization.
0009Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:23:11.15ID:O3GpInjV0
Policies favouring the rich.
0011(。・_・。)ノ ◆jn6k3cbewjlt Hunter [Lv. 416] [SSR Warrior] [SSR Defense] [Wood].Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:24:45.56ID:FM2bMvk50
The problem would be solved if we could create a system where Tokyo residents could benefit by paying taxes to other cities, wards, towns, and villages in the city. Minato residents could pay taxes to Chiyoda Ward, and Hachioji residents could pay taxes to Ome City, right?
0013Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:25:00.43ID:q0AO2TyB0(2/4)
You don’t even pay any attention to the suffering in the regions due to the concentration of power in one place, but then you go on about complaining like it’s your own business.
0014Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:25:17.78ID:+Ks8WGfd0
Well, we have to tell that to the Tokyo residents whose taxes are being wasted…
0015Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:25:36.13ID:fGtqS6em0
It’s a calculated result that was obvious from the beginning. It’s a loss as expected… I don’t feel bad for them saying that. They usually rip me off.
0017Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:26:20.64ID:FWRljFcL0
That’s the system’s purpose…
0018Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:26:27.49ID:vOSfSvcs0
The value of the talent and assets from the regions that will be absorbed into the Tokyo black hole will amount to tens of trillions of yen.
0019Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:26:31.14ID:Ctz0uoW90
Hometown tax donations are fine, but we need to stop this system of baiting people with gifts that use tax money as a cost.
Make it so that people can voluntarily pay taxes to local governments.
0021Security Guard [lv.3] [Sprout].Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:28:21.21ID:n6afYM6g0
Well, I guess it serves the purpose well. However, the gap in the middle is starting to get bigger, so something needs to be done soon.
0022Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:28:30.44ID:a9/HOYvC0(1/2)
It’s fine because it’s the citizens themselves who benefit.
0023Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:28:31.25ID:q0AO2TyB0(3/4)
If the metropolitan government is struggling, why not stop providing free tuition, something that only Tokyo does?
0025Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:28:39.93ID:i15MnRxe0
At the root of this is the “austerity measures” implemented by the Ministry of Finance and the Liberal Democratic Party. Because of the austerity measures, local subsidies have been reduced, and instead prefectures are being forced to compete with each other through hometown tax donations.
0026Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:28:44.94ID:XCHi4vNw0
I don’t want to pay taxes to a local government that gives preferential treatment to people with children.
0027Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:28:57.35ID:6RH82fWI0(1/3)
Since it’s a hometown tax donation, the target area should really be the place of birth, or the municipality where you have been registered as a resident for more than 10 years, or the municipality of your parents’ hometown.
0028Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:30:24.49ID:Ps0totlk0
There are certainly more Diet members elected from urban areas with negative tax revenues than those elected from areas with positive tax revenues, so we should have a bipartisan review of the laws.
0029Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:30:37.91ID:zMtm8sCw0
I wish there was a service set up where if Tokyo residents made hometown tax donations to the areas where they worked during the day, they could receive something nice in return on their commute.
0030Guard [lv.1] [Sprout]: 0.00000000.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:30:58.03ID:IcA3iKPo0(1/2)
3/4 of the loss in hometown tax revenues will be compensated for by local allocation tax, but this only applies to grant-receiving organizations, and those who don’t are left in a bad situation.
0032Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:31:11.72ID:BG8ljEXW0
Only Tokyo should be independent. The Tokyo Empire would be fine.
0035Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:32:22.89ID:q0AO2TyB0(4/4)
>>32
Without a water source, you’ll die.
0033Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:31:48.51ID:PBoL0fWX0(2/10)
Wasn’t it Suga Yoshihide who started the hometown tax system?
That bald guy looks like he has some grudge against Japan
He looks like he hates Japan.
0034Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:32:02.68ID:nIZHlK+O0
They’re pulling in even more from the countryside.
0037Korean pickles ◆a9o2gkva8v2w.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:34:02.43ID:w81RGWwR0
Just collect additional metropolitan taxes from those who make hometown tax donations. (^. ^)y-.。 o○.
0039Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:34:11.47ID:+NMFsOQ40
Do we want to monopolise the wealth for ourselves? Shouldn’t the wealth that Japan produces be used as evenly as possible across all regions?
0040Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:34:12.26ID:DJk51HxK0(1/2)
Even if we pay taxes to the Koike administration, they will disappear into garbage profiteering like the Tokyo Metropolitan Government Mapping Project. It would be a trillion times more meaningful to support the local area by receiving delicious food through hometown tax donations.
0041Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:34:23.34ID:bkmHjUqw0(2/2)
There’s no reason for me to donate to a remote rural area where I have no connection.
0045Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:36:34.47ID:DbTltbak0
It’s not at the level where you would buy cigarettes in another municipality lol.
0048Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:37:31.76ID:Q8TkZUhj0
Wouldn’t it be better to reduce government services?
0051Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:38:55.46ID:PBoL0fWX0(4/10)
>>48
It would be better to lower the service in rural areas.
0053Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 25, 2024 (Sun) 00:39:06.76ID:obZfKAJq0(1/4)
I think this is happening because even the Tokyo residents themselves think that Tokyo is just a place with companies and has no other appeal.
Reference: https://asahi.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1724512720

Other languages: ふるさと納税「東京の自治が沈没」都内の流出、1兆円迫る, Impuesto local “La autonomía de Tokio se hunde” La salida de Tokio se acerca al billón de yenes.

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