0001Flea market ★.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 07:24:30.25ID:4Pzs8ZUG9
The record-breaking rains that hit the Noto region of Ishikawa Prefecture have caused the first floors of their homes to flood, with an increasing number of people seeking refuge on the second floor. The main reason is that it is easier to carry out recovery work such as shoveling mud compared to evacuation centers that are far away from homes, but some people are complaining of feeling unwell due to dust flying up from the first floor, and others are having an unbalanced diet because they cannot use the kitchen. There is no clear prospect of them being able to move into temporary housing, and residents are expressing anxiety about continuing to live on the second floor with no end in sight. (Shibata Kazuki)
◆Dust is flying around the house, and masks are essential
The nearby Kawarada River overflowed, causing flooding above the floor level in Kawai-cho, Wajima City. “Don’t come down. “On the second floor.” Kumiko Kawakami (40), who was shoveling mud from the first floor of her house with a carpenter friend, scolded her elementary school-aged son who had come to check on them. Every time we removed a floorboard to shovel out the mud from underneath, dust rose up to face height inside the room. We live as a family of four, with my husband and two sons in first and third grade. On September 21st, there was heavy rain and the muddy water level rose rapidly, reaching more than one meter above the floor. The house is four years old. Just like in the Noto Peninsula earthquake, which caused some damage to the house, they plan to repair it and continue living in it. While the repairs were being made, they began living on the second floor, but the dust and foul stench from the first floor made both they and their son cough nonstop. Wearing a mask has become indispensable even at home. “The children are stressed out by the cramped space, and I’m worried about their health,” said Kawakami. “I can’t stay here for long,” he said, and applied to the city for permission to move into temporary housing, but his future plans, including the damage certification survey that is the standard for eligibility, have not yet been decided. They are calling on the government to “provide generous support, given that this flooding occurred after an earthquake.” Hisayo Kaji (41), a family of four with her husband and two daughters, an elementary school student and a kindergartener, moved from Higashinakao-cho in the city to a rented house in Kawai-cho, but one month later, the house was flooded above the floor level due to heavy rains. We were forced to live on the second floor. I couldn’t use the kitchen, so all I could cook was fry eggs on a portable stove. Almost all of our home appliances, including our refrigerator, broke, so we had to rely on cooler boxes to store food. Perishable foods cannot be preserved, and Kaji is troubled, saying, “The menu inevitably becomes biased.” They are not considering temporarily moving to an evacuation shelter because “we can’t just leave this place as it is, and the cleanup won’t progress.” Although he has applied for temporary housing, he has given up on moving in within the year. “During the earthquake, everyone suffered the same damage, so there was a sense of solidarity, but this time the flood damage is localized. It’s hard that not everyone can sympathize with me,” she laments. ◇
◆The move-in date is undecided…issues with temporary housing
Wajima City and Suzu City in Ishikawa Prefecture are accepting applications for temporary housing from residents whose homes were damaged in the Noto heavy rains. However, according to officials from both cities, the move-in date has not yet been decided. One of the challenges facing construction is securing land while taking into account risks such as flooding and landslides. According to both cities, as with the Noto Peninsula earthquake, occupancy is limited to residents who have a disaster certificate showing that their homes have been partially destroyed or more. According to national standards, a house is considered partially destroyed when water reaches 10 centimeters above the floor level in a flood. The interruption of lifelines such as water and electricity is also one of the requirements for occupancy. Both cities began damage assessment surveys to issue disaster certificates on the 4th. Tokyo Shimbun, October 7, 2024, 6:00am.
◆Dust is flying around the house, and masks are essential
The nearby Kawarada River overflowed, causing flooding above the floor level in Kawai-cho, Wajima City. “Don’t come down. “On the second floor.” Kumiko Kawakami (40), who was shoveling mud from the first floor of her house with a carpenter friend, scolded her elementary school-aged son who had come to check on them. Every time we removed a floorboard to shovel out the mud from underneath, dust rose up to face height inside the room. We live as a family of four, with my husband and two sons in first and third grade. On September 21st, there was heavy rain and the muddy water level rose rapidly, reaching more than one meter above the floor. The house is four years old. Just like in the Noto Peninsula earthquake, which caused some damage to the house, they plan to repair it and continue living in it. While the repairs were being made, they began living on the second floor, but the dust and foul stench from the first floor made both they and their son cough nonstop. Wearing a mask has become indispensable even at home. “The children are stressed out by the cramped space, and I’m worried about their health,” said Kawakami. “I can’t stay here for long,” he said, and applied to the city for permission to move into temporary housing, but his future plans, including the damage certification survey that is the standard for eligibility, have not yet been decided. They are calling on the government to “provide generous support, given that this flooding occurred after an earthquake.” Hisayo Kaji (41), a family of four with her husband and two daughters, an elementary school student and a kindergartener, moved from Higashinakao-cho in the city to a rented house in Kawai-cho, but one month later, the house was flooded above the floor level due to heavy rains. We were forced to live on the second floor. I couldn’t use the kitchen, so all I could cook was fry eggs on a portable stove. Almost all of our home appliances, including our refrigerator, broke, so we had to rely on cooler boxes to store food. Perishable foods cannot be preserved, and Kaji is troubled, saying, “The menu inevitably becomes biased.” They are not considering temporarily moving to an evacuation shelter because “we can’t just leave this place as it is, and the cleanup won’t progress.” Although he has applied for temporary housing, he has given up on moving in within the year. “During the earthquake, everyone suffered the same damage, so there was a sense of solidarity, but this time the flood damage is localized. It’s hard that not everyone can sympathize with me,” she laments. ◇
◆The move-in date is undecided…issues with temporary housing
Wajima City and Suzu City in Ishikawa Prefecture are accepting applications for temporary housing from residents whose homes were damaged in the Noto heavy rains. However, according to officials from both cities, the move-in date has not yet been decided. One of the challenges facing construction is securing land while taking into account risks such as flooding and landslides. According to both cities, as with the Noto Peninsula earthquake, occupancy is limited to residents who have a disaster certificate showing that their homes have been partially destroyed or more. According to national standards, a house is considered partially destroyed when water reaches 10 centimeters above the floor level in a flood. The interruption of lifelines such as water and electricity is also one of the requirements for occupancy. Both cities began damage assessment surveys to issue disaster certificates on the 4th. Tokyo Shimbun, October 7, 2024, 6:00am.
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0032Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 07:49:19.56ID:hNxqDYY00
>>1
That’s more dangerous than Aspest.
That Ietai Melon.
That’s more dangerous than Aspest.
That Ietai Melon.
0052Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 08:24:59.37ID:DOs9ffwt0
>>1
When I look at the map of Kawai-cho, there’s an elementary school, a middle school, and a high school, so I wonder if they can open up some of them. Aren’t there a lot of empty classrooms? I understand wanting to stay at home.
When I look at the map of Kawai-cho, there’s an elementary school, a middle school, and a high school, so I wonder if they can open up some of them. Aren’t there a lot of empty classrooms? I understand wanting to stay at home.
0060Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 08:37:03.14ID:HMoAJ/Z50
>>1
Make another garage floor mandatory.
Make another garage floor mandatory.
0003Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 07:25:17.70ID:PJy5lLrr0
Go ahead and do what you want, they don’t accept volunteers.
0019Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 07:38:14.90ID:pMN7kUCm0(1/4)
>>3
I wonder if that’s what they really think.
I wonder if that’s what they really think.
0072Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 09:31:13.99ID:+nIjjLrF0
>>3
These kinds of idiots are the lefties.
These kinds of idiots are the lefties.
0113Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 13:21:56.40ID:JZzyuJu00(1/3)
>>3
There are people who don’t update their information.
There are people who don’t update their information.
0005Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 07:25:54.24ID:wKwvA1gV0
When you die, you die.
0006Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 07:26:48.75ID:BHB4h3iw0
It’s only four years old, so the earthquake and flooding above the floor level is tough.
0007Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 07:27:49.02ID:kg5sXiCU0(1/3)
Why do you continue to live there?
Health is more important than money.
Wouldn’t it be better to move to a 6 tatami apartment in Kanazawa City, even if you have to pay for it yourself?
Health is more important than money.
Wouldn’t it be better to move to a 6 tatami apartment in Kanazawa City, even if you have to pay for it yourself?
0012Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 07:32:57.45ID:ev7lj0nd0
>>7
I don’t have any money. My workplace is far away.
I don’t have any money. My workplace is far away.
0026Security Guard [lv.19].Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 07:45:03.94ID:S0yDi6Pz0
>>7
There are people who don’t have strong feelings for their hometowns and people who can’t leave their hometowns.
There are people who don’t have strong feelings for their hometowns and people who can’t leave their hometowns.
0049Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 08:21:22.01ID:iFFSb5WC0(2/3)
>>7
If that’s the reasoning, wouldn’t it be better to escape overseas?
If that’s the reasoning, wouldn’t it be better to escape overseas?
0076Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 09:38:14.41ID:PB1qkHY90(1/6)
>>7
I completely agree.
Remote flood-prone areas are no place for people to live.
I don’t have a 6-tatami apartment, but if there’s a nice apartment like the public housing complex or Charme Maison in Kanazawa, I’d like to move there.
I completely agree.
Remote flood-prone areas are no place for people to live.
I don’t have a 6-tatami apartment, but if there’s a nice apartment like the public housing complex or Charme Maison in Kanazawa, I’d like to move there.
0079Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 09:43:10.54ID:sm5gTt8Z0
>>7
The thinking of someone who has never bought land.
The thinking of someone who has never bought land.
0107Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 12:37:50.90ID:0/ordlGp0
>>7
Money is more important than life.
Money is more important than life.
0110Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 12:54:02.20ID:jE5AhDQz0
>>7
You know, the one where a known hell is better than an unknown heaven.
You know, the one where a known hell is better than an unknown heaven.
0114Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 13:22:54.06ID:JZzyuJu00(2/3)
>>7
Unlike in the city, it’s much harder to find such a small apartment.
Unlike in the city, it’s much harder to find such a small apartment.
0008Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 07:28:54.50ID:6yuQ39f30(1/2)
Kishida: “I don’t know.”
Ministry of Finance: “We need to eliminate depopulated areas.”
Hase: “I don’t know because I live in Tokyo.”
Ministry of Finance: “We need to eliminate depopulated areas.”
Hase: “I don’t know because I live in Tokyo.”
0013Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 07:33:15.25ID:kIqWCmts0
>>8
Suga: “Self-help.”
Suga: “Self-help.”
0050Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 08:22:30.26ID:iFFSb5WC0(3/3)
>>8
From a global perspective, Japan is a depopulated area, so it would be wise to destroy it.
From a global perspective, Japan is a depopulated area, so it would be wise to destroy it.
0010Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 07:30:15.52ID:73lj1gGu0(1/2)
I’m not sure about vertical evacuation unless you’re on the third floor or above or in a high-rise apartment building.
0011Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 07:30:45.95ID:RC6obH4c0
Hase Hiroshi’s man-made disaster.
0015Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 07:35:37.66ID:RTjaNo320
It’s his own fault, get the LDP to help him (lol).
0016Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 07:35:53.40ID:H0yxR8VM0(1/6)
Well, if it’s made of wood, it has to be firmly connected to underground beams, otherwise the whole house will be swept away in a mudslide. Even if you say vertical evacuation, it depends on the strength of the building.
0018Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 07:38:03.75ID:1MKQ/tMO0
How about chartering a luxury cruise ship for a temporary evacuation?
0021Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 07:40:15.51ID:sXkSxhLO0
If it were an old house I could accept it, but it’s tough when it’s four years old.
0023Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 07:41:23.78ID:twJUCKpq0
It’s already dead after only four years.
0025Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 07:44:09.43ID:YmMoxKGi0
It’s rotten, that land is finished.
0027Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 07:45:33.33ID:0H/gyaGJ0
Hazard map.
0028Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 07:45:46.68ID:oGITJ/+j0
The only option is to make it on stilts.
0029Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 07:47:03.41ID:73lj1gGu0(2/2)
He might lose the next gubernatorial election.
0030Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 07:47:04.39ID:km8TDyMM0
It was the same during the Great East Kanto Earthquake, but is it really necessary to use national tax money to rebuild disaster areas in the first place? If you can no longer live there, you can just move elsewhere. If you don’t have money, it’s your own fault for not having insurance.
0035Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 07:52:53.42ID:kg5sXiCU0(2/3)
>>30
There are opinions that say we shouldn’t spend money on this type of reconstruction, and opinions that we should spend money generously even if we have to secure a supplementary budget for reconstruction.
There are both, and public opinion is completely divided.
Politicians will choose a middle ground.
There are opinions that say we shouldn’t spend money on this type of reconstruction, and opinions that we should spend money generously even if we have to secure a supplementary budget for reconstruction.
There are both, and public opinion is completely divided.
Politicians will choose a middle ground.
0048Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 08:19:55.55ID:iFFSb5WC0(1/3)
>>30
There it is! The family secret weapon “personal responsibility and divine punishment”
“If you don’t like it, just leave”
You were in political asylum overseas when the Democratic Party was in power, weren’t you?
During the Great East Japan Earthquake, you said that Westerners wouldn’t be able to live on this archipelago for the next 1000 years
So you’re still living in Beijing, right?
There it is! The family secret weapon “personal responsibility and divine punishment”
“If you don’t like it, just leave”
You were in political asylum overseas when the Democratic Party was in power, weren’t you?
During the Great East Japan Earthquake, you said that Westerners wouldn’t be able to live on this archipelago for the next 1000 years
So you’re still living in Beijing, right?
0031Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 07:47:05.83ID:fhscqC900
Because that’s where I live.
0033Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 07:49:44.29ID:woZZZZDy0
Houses built before the hazard map was announced are old and will need to be rebuilt, which is a bit unfortunate.
Houses built after the hazard map was announced will either need to be flood-proofed or will not be lived in.
My house is in an area with a 1m risk of flooding, so I built it with a 1.5m high floor just to be safe.
Houses built after the hazard map was announced will either need to be flood-proofed or will not be lived in.
My house is in an area with a 1m risk of flooding, so I built it with a 1.5m high floor just to be safe.
0068Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 09:18:56.92ID:JkBdn5SP0
>>33
You’ll regret it when you’re old.
You’ll regret it when you’re old.
0034Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 07:50:43.11ID:Y912fir40
Flooding can be avoided with a hazard map…
People planning to build a house should check the hazard map carefully
The same goes for cliff collapses and landslides
The rest is insurance. If you have no choice but to live in such an area, it would be better to have proper insurance.
People planning to build a house should check the hazard map carefully
The same goes for cliff collapses and landslides
The rest is insurance. If you have no choice but to live in such an area, it would be better to have proper insurance.
0058Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 08:35:19.67ID:a98QgZ6+0
>>34
This is it
There must be a reason why the land is cheap, but they took the risk
They don’t take out insurance or hedge their risks, and if something happens they’re going to help out with public funds or whatever.
This is it
There must be a reason why the land is cheap, but they took the risk
They don’t take out insurance or hedge their risks, and if something happens they’re going to help out with public funds or whatever.
0059Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 08:35:47.75ID:KO9/0suo0(1/2)
>>34 When buying a house or land, real estate agents don’t mention hazard maps at all.
They don’t mind building new houses near rivers, so they’re also selling used properties.
We looked at the prefecture’s hazard map online before signing the contract, but…
Basic information, like how many square meters the land is, and how many minutes walk from the station or bus stop,
wouldn’t it be mandatory to display warning areas,
and to display and explain them before signing a rental contract?
Also, how many meters above sea level, and if there are rivers or ports nearby, the distance and elevation difference from the mountains, etc.
For people who already live there, they should circulate it once a year in the neighborhood association, and elementary and junior high schools should also learn about the dangers in the area and major disasters in other areas in the past.
People live without worrying about the risks.
They don’t mind building new houses near rivers, so they’re also selling used properties.
We looked at the prefecture’s hazard map online before signing the contract, but…
Basic information, like how many square meters the land is, and how many minutes walk from the station or bus stop,
wouldn’t it be mandatory to display warning areas,
and to display and explain them before signing a rental contract?
Also, how many meters above sea level, and if there are rivers or ports nearby, the distance and elevation difference from the mountains, etc.
For people who already live there, they should circulate it once a year in the neighborhood association, and elementary and junior high schools should also learn about the dangers in the area and major disasters in other areas in the past.
People live without worrying about the risks.
0063Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 09:07:16.90ID:2FxMQVd10(1/3)
>>34
The hazard maps before the earthquake are useless. Wasn’t it mostly safe? It seems like the hazard maps were updated after the earthquake, but the heavy rain caused flooding in areas that were supposed to be safe.
The hazard maps before the earthquake are useless. Wasn’t it mostly safe? It seems like the hazard maps were updated after the earthquake, but the heavy rain caused flooding in areas that were supposed to be safe.
0045Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 08:14:31.55ID:joroX/Xd0(1/2)
>>35
I’m a big fan of the idea of upgrading the entire Noto Peninsula to a traditional cultural region comparable to Kyoto, and making it possible to make a living from agriculture, forestry, fisheries, and tourism.
I’m a big fan of the idea of upgrading the entire Noto Peninsula to a traditional cultural region comparable to Kyoto, and making it possible to make a living from agriculture, forestry, fisheries, and tourism.
0038Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 08:01:02.14ID:AIL6yWWu0
If you look at it like this, renting is easier.
0039Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 08:05:17.79ID:H0yxR8VM0(5/6)
>>38
If you’re going to buy a house, you have to do your research on the land first.
The government and developers who go to the trouble of changing the place names to cover up the wisdom of our ancestors and develop dangerous land are stupid, but the people who buy it are even stupider.
If you’re going to buy a house, you have to do your research on the land first.
The government and developers who go to the trouble of changing the place names to cover up the wisdom of our ancestors and develop dangerous land are stupid, but the people who buy it are even stupider.
0082Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 09:48:51.24ID:YjNr2Ur30
>>39
It’s easy to research the disaster history of a place, so why don’t you do it? Unless it’s your hometown and you can’t leave it for any reason.
It’s easy to research the disaster history of a place, so why don’t you do it? Unless it’s your hometown and you can’t leave it for any reason.
0041Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 08:06:50.00ID:ok7Vs1Pk0
After all, renting is the only option.
0042Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 08:09:09.21ID:hibpW7r70
Renting is like constantly paying insurance premiums, so it naturally ends up being more expensive in the long run.
0044Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 08:10:47.70ID:H0yxR8VM0(6/6)
>>42
If it’s not affected by natural disasters, then repairs and equipment upgrades due to aging are not cheap.
If it’s not affected by natural disasters, then repairs and equipment upgrades due to aging are not cheap.
0043Security guard [lv.17].Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 08:09:13.98ID:zO9px+Pe0
Is the house where the cooler box is located a rental?
You should probably move.
You should probably move.
0046Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 08:14:53.39ID:Csz4RUnJ0
In the future, financial assistance for those who build and live in dangerous areas will be reduced, which will be unfair to those who have lived in rented accommodation all their lives.
0056Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 08:26:28.00ID:joroX/Xd0(2/2)
Well, it seems logical that there would be no choice but to actively carry out reconstruction in Noto, which has the greatest potential for tourism. The future looks very uncertain…
0067Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 09:13:02.23ID:2FxMQVd10(2/3)
Before the earthquake, Noto Peninsula was attracting people by claiming that it was a place with few natural disasters.
0073Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 09:32:12.97ID:ANlrIyts0
Because of climate change, this will become the norm, so if you can move, it would be safer to do so.
It would be better to use the disaster recovery budget to support moving.
0091Security Guard [lv.6] [bud].Oct. 7, 2024 (Mon) 10:43:31.42ID:CeH6MBB40
The whole of Japan is a danger zone.
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