0001Akami★.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:04:06.62ID:8Bt2hpsr9
Since the incident came to light, there have been reports about Saito’s possible sex addiction and large debt problems. A woman who was assaulted by Saito on the location bus also released a statement through her lawyer. The “search for the victim” has continued since the news was reported, creating a situation that could lead to a second rape. This series of heated reports are merely scattered bits of information, but the details of the underlying incidents have not yet been made clear. Lawyer Sugiyama Daisuke, who handles many criminal cases, says that this heated reporting should be looked at objectively, asking, “Haven’t they learned their lesson from the Hakamada case?” ■Lawyer: “There is a high risk of a false accusation.”
“The public seems to only be able to imagine a false accusation in cases where there was a completely different culprit, but I would like to point out that even in this case, where if there was consent it would just be a scandal, but if there was no consent it would be a crime, there is a high risk of a false accusation. “There’s no need to make a fuss when there’s no evidence yet,” said lawyer Sugiyama.
In Japan, it has long been a problem that reports treat people as if they are “criminals” at the arrest and prosecution stage. In fact, the prosecution rate for criminal offenses for which people are arrested and their papers are referred to prosecutors is only 36.2% (from the 2023 White Paper on Crime). Most recently, it is still fresh in our memory that Japan national soccer team player Junya Ito was referred to prosecutors on suspicion of “quasi-rape resulting in injury” but was later not indicted. Regarding this “paper referral,” Attorney Sugiyama explained, “It is simply a normal procedural step,” and went on to say the following: “One of the parties says there was no consent, while the other says there was consent, which contradicts the other. At least at the police level, the statements made are in a form that disputes the commission of a crime. If there are no witnesses and the two are alone in the scene and there is no further investigation, the police will send the case to the Public Prosecutor’s Office for a decision. That’s all, nothing else matters.”
There has been no change in Saito’s “position” between the time he was under police investigation and the time the documents were sent to the prosecutor’s office and the time the prosecutor’s office made its decision. “From now on, the prosecutor will read the documents and sometimes reconfirm statements, etc., and then decide whether to prosecute or not.” (Lawyer Sugiyama)
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“The public seems to only be able to imagine a false accusation in cases where there was a completely different culprit, but I would like to point out that even in this case, where if there was consent it would just be a scandal, but if there was no consent it would be a crime, there is a high risk of a false accusation. “There’s no need to make a fuss when there’s no evidence yet,” said lawyer Sugiyama.
In Japan, it has long been a problem that reports treat people as if they are “criminals” at the arrest and prosecution stage. In fact, the prosecution rate for criminal offenses for which people are arrested and their papers are referred to prosecutors is only 36.2% (from the 2023 White Paper on Crime). Most recently, it is still fresh in our memory that Japan national soccer team player Junya Ito was referred to prosecutors on suspicion of “quasi-rape resulting in injury” but was later not indicted. Regarding this “paper referral,” Attorney Sugiyama explained, “It is simply a normal procedural step,” and went on to say the following: “One of the parties says there was no consent, while the other says there was consent, which contradicts the other. At least at the police level, the statements made are in a form that disputes the commission of a crime. If there are no witnesses and the two are alone in the scene and there is no further investigation, the police will send the case to the Public Prosecutor’s Office for a decision. That’s all, nothing else matters.”
There has been no change in Saito’s “position” between the time he was under police investigation and the time the documents were sent to the prosecutor’s office and the time the prosecutor’s office made its decision. “From now on, the prosecutor will read the documents and sometimes reconfirm statements, etc., and then decide whether to prosecute or not.” (Lawyer Sugiyama)
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ジャンポケ斉藤氏「書類送検」で“加熱報道” 弁護士「十分えん罪のリスクはある」と指摘するワケ(弁護士JPニュース) - Yahoo!ニュース
お笑いトリオ「ジャングルポケット」のメンバーだった斉藤慎二氏が今年7月、東京都新宿区の路上に止まっていたテレビ番組の撮影に使うロケバスの中で、20代女性に性的暴行を加えた容疑で、今月7日に書類送検さ
0058Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:19:29.58ID:7rGDg00/0
>>1
If that’s the case, Yoshimoto could claim huge compensation for unfair dismissal.
If that’s the case, Yoshimoto could claim huge compensation for unfair dismissal.
0002Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:04:49.29ID:H3d12zN10
Because there was infidelity.
0009Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:06:41.14ID:uinl4EY90(1/2)
>>2
Well, read it.
Well, read it.
0003Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:05:39.63ID:E09AcPnL0(1/2)
Saito seems to have admitted to the charges.
0004Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:05:44.59ID:gsQ4ZR3M0
If it’s a blowjob, I’d be inclined to say, “The other person also made an effort.”
0012Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:07:47.55ID:uinl4EY90(2/2)
>>4
I thought Saito was done with the location bus
but it’s a bit disappointing that it’s just a blowjob.
I thought Saito was done with the location bus
but it’s a bit disappointing that it’s just a blowjob.
0007Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:06:16.36ID:wlrbWxWm0(1/6)
This makes sense, because there are a lot of idiots who confuse fact with speculation.
0008Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:06:31.08ID:77uUMSmE0
The reporting should be based on the principle of presumption of innocence, so the prosecution should bring charges.
0011Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:07:22.65ID:Dzz0FiVH0
So it was a false accusation, poor thing.
0014Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:08:00.81ID:yDdN7iwU0(1/2)
Are you aiming for the multi-purpose course?
0016Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:09:01.56ID:ZUUtB/n70
The law firm that sponsors the variety show, the lawyer who appears on the variety show all the time, it just never stops.
0017Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:09:24.07ID:a27/pUBf0
If the victim doesn’t come forward, there’s a strong possibility that he may be falsely accused.
0034Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:14:05.49ID:jDYb4pi00(1/2)
>>17
There’s no need to come forward in public, you idiot.
There’s no need to come forward in public, you idiot.
0018Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:10:00.51ID:KjUYO5R30
Could Sunshine Ikezaki’s theory be a possibility for this being a false accusation?
0019Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:10:08.62ID:I0uIzj3a0
And then there’s the power of money.
0020Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:10:49.79ID:yDdN7iwU0(2/2)
You’re going to be prosecuted, so do your best to explain yourself.
0022Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:11:33.39ID:bCJWlkNt0(1/3)
“Presumed guilty” and “Punish those in doubt” are the public opinion in Japan.
0023Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:11:39.44ID:KEs6bujf0
Is he a lawyer from the agency that does commercials for Hepatitis B?
0024Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:11:46.26ID:B6L02Qzu0
We should learn from the case of soccer player Ito that merely being referred to prosecutors does not mean that someone is guilty.
0025Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:11:51.66ID:wlrbWxWm0(3/6)
It feels good to bash Saito, entertainment reporters, celebrities who act like opinion pieces, fellow comedians who change their minds lol
But affairs need to be taken responsibility.
But affairs need to be taken responsibility.
0026Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:11:54.14ID:eKCbsXt+0
The guy who never thought he’d be kissed ended up giving him a blow job.
0027Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:12:03.06ID:aMVLLC650
After seeing this, would you still send your child to a public school?
0030Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:13:48.27ID:nNI4EXA10(2/2)
However, since Janpoke Saito and Yasuko were on the show, it’s probably only a matter of time before people find out who A-san is.
0049Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:18:05.12ID:5/79epnQ0
>>30
It was shelved and never aired.
It was shelved and never aired.
0031Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:13:49.34ID:C+WLarte0(1/3)
I don’t know what’s true at the moment because some sources give completely different information.
0033Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:13:54.58ID:M/qgjtrv0
I’d like to hear what Saito has to say.
0035Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:14:13.17ID:jCQOg8FD0(1/3)
How many Japanese people can explain the difference between arrest, referral (filing papers to the prosecutor’s office), indictment, and guilty verdict? In Japanese culture, the moment you are arrested or your case is referred to prosecutors you are treated like a criminal and get fired from your job.
0038Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:15:38.74ID:vnGxCD1A0(1/5)
Nobody is saying it doesn’t exist lol
The defenders are too desperate lol.
0039Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:15:46.42ID:2+h8Z/OO0
Oh you guys are finished.
0040Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:16:12.70ID:zddiRwP/0(1/3)
There’s no evidence whatsoever because Saito has admitted that he did it.
0041Security Guard [lv.5] [Sprout].Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:16:48.77ID:s4w2aSCz0
Saito has admitted to the charges, but I’m not sure if he really admits to all the things he didn’t agree with. I’d like to hear his side of the story.
0042Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:16:59.24ID:5TUbSAMt0(1/4)
If this was a false accusation, he could collect compensation from over 10,000 people in the internet community, which would amount to 3 billion yen, assuming 300,000 yen per person.
0050Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:18:12.86ID:azcuYuE90
>>42
That’s a dream come true.
That’s a dream come true.
0043Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:17:21.53ID:qu7a9/+S0
Yamakawa and Ito were charged before the law on non-consensual intercourse came into force, so I think Saito will be more severely charged after the law came into force.
0045Security Guard [lv.3] [Seedling].Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:17:37.81ID:X0kQl2we0(2/6)
I’m concerned that it’s a severe punishment, not a reasonable punishment. Normally, the police would find this troublesome and would just give it a reasonable treatment and settle the matter through negotiation. And the severe punishment makes me wonder if something must have happened.
0047Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:17:57.29ID:839feMcy0
If it’s a false accusation then it’s a false accusation. But if that makes it seem like cheating is forgiven then he’ll definitely do it again.
0061Security Guard [lv.3] [Seedling].Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:20:06.89ID:X0kQl2we0(3/6)
>>47
If you mess up, that’s fine, you’re just an ordinary person now
And if you get divorced, you’ll be single
Do as you like.
If you mess up, that’s fine, you’re just an ordinary person now
And if you get divorced, you’ll be single
Do as you like.
0051Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:18:55.83ID:oLsePeZP0(1/2)
If it’s a false accusation, that would be an interesting development in itself, so I don’t mind. But Yoshimoto fired him and he admitted to it, so it’s highly unlikely.
0059Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:19:36.04ID:ny3sdoJI0
Is this some kind of honey trap?
0079Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:25:12.12ID:SbNif2h20(1/3)
>>59
I can’t decide. Our guess is that if it was soccer, he’d be a honey trap scammer.
The problem is that JanPokémon Saito was in debt, so it would have been impossible to solve the problem with money in the first place.
0060Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:19:56.07ID:K1bvrEzw0(1/2)
If he ends up being falsely accused, he could make a living like Smiley. Or maybe he’s already giving lectures about bullying.
0062Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:20:15.99ID:v5HueUWF0
Was it a false accusation?
It’s crazy how the media reported that “he admitted it himself”.
It’s crazy how the media reported that “he admitted it himself”.
0063Anonymous @I’m sorry.Oct. 11, 2024 (Fri) 13:20:17.09ID:rHqQiAYu0
It hasn’t been reported as much as you’d think, but it’s due to Yoshimoto’s bias.
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