M-1 Judge Kaihara Tomoko Criticized: Kansai Fans Defend Manzai Tradition

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Kansai people are outraged by criticism of M-1 judge Kaihara Tomoko, defending the rich tradition of Yasutomo’s manzai comedy.

1jinjin★.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:10:30.53ID:t4m6emTo9
The final of the M-1 Grand Prix 2024 (TV Asahi), which determines the best manzai comedian in Japan, was held on December 22nd. This year, the lineup of judges has changed significantly, which has been a hot topic, but comedy fans in the Kansai region are voicing their anger over Tomoko Umihara (52), one of the judges from Umihara Yasuyo and Tomoko, who served as a judge for the second year in a row. (Omitted)
“Many of the judges this time were logical thinkers who were very adept at putting things into words when evaluating their material, especially Hanawa-san, Ishida-san, and Yamauchi-san, who have all published books on manzai. On the other hand, Tomoko seems to be an intuitive, genius type of person. As a result, it seemed that he was not very good at putting his analysis of manzai into words. And although she is a famous talent known to everyone in the Kansai region, she is not that well known nationwide, so after “M-1″ ended there were some voices criticizing her without knowing much about her. That caused a huge outrage among the people of Kansai, who know how amazing Tomoko is.” (Entertainment agency source)
A particular point of contention among viewers was Tomoko’s comments on the “rice ball shop” skit performed by the second group of Yarens in the first round. When Tomoko was making her comments, she frankly admitted, “I kind of… wanted to see something a bit more silly,” and added, with a look of disappointment, “It was silly, but I wanted to see something even more silly.” Host Koji Imada (58) tried to help him out by saying, “Maybe you wanted to see something a little different?” but he remained at a loss for words. Eventually, Imada grew impatient and cut him off, saying, “Let me know when you’ve finished,” which drew laughter. (Omitted)
On x, “Tomoko Neesan” became a trending topic, and a controversy erupted. “Umihara Tomoko, what are you talking about?”
“Umihara Tomoko is so rude to the Yarens. “Isn’t your response to being asked for a comment terrible?”
“She doesn’t have the vocabulary to express herself well, and I don’t want someone like this to be judging the show.”
In addition to harsh comments such as these, people who don’t know her also posted comments such as “Who is she anyway?”, which especially angered comedy fans in the Kansai region. In response to the critical comments, many users who seem to be from Kansai have said things like, “I think many Kansai people will understand what Tomoko-nee-san is trying to say about her stupid comments. Calling them stupid isn’t a harsh comment in response to Yarens’ jokes. It’s the stupidity that makes it funny.” “Preface your Tomoko-nee-san diss with, “I don’t know much about Kaihara Tomoko, but…” It really gets Kansai people on edge, so stop doing that.” “Kansai people who found the tweets bashing Kaihara Tomoko are already starting to get their act together.” “I’ve never seen a Kansai person (especially a girl) who dislikes Kaihara Yasuyo and Tomoko’s manzai, but when I saw the trending “Tomoko-nee-san,” Kansai people were united in their pride as people born in a comedy powerhouse, saying, “People who don’t know Yasutomo’s manzai, stop talking about manzai.” They are protecting Kaihara Tomoko-nee-san with all their pride in being born in a comedy powerhouse.” Please see the source for more details
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“People who don’t know Yasutomo’s manzai should stop talking about manzai” M-1 judge Umihara Tomoko’s criticism angers Kansai people “Kansai people are already starting to get their act together” [muffin★].

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45Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:23:51.02ID:E2XjJ2Oo0
>>1
He’s usually a very eloquent and sharp-tongued guy, but he’s a genius when it comes to analysis, so maybe that’s why he couldn’t do it?
If the male-female duo and the female comedian win, the competition will be over, right?
3Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:11:40.05ID:xtoO8mF/0
Is he popular in the Kansai region?
6Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:12:53.06ID:wVJNHss30
He has a proven track record and is a big hit in the Kansai region.
8Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:13:10.48ID:s77ZCUGA0
that’s why?.
9Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:13:35.77ID:9PcZuHOE0
You’re not good at talking.
10Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:14:00.00ID:5m4yj8WV0
Yamada Kuniko was better.
11Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:14:12.23ID:bWuo6P220
People from Kansai are really funny and have a great sense of humor.
12Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:14:20.57ID:CGEqN7uQ0
I’m just too nervous.
14Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:14:49.86ID:Wa08WC1o0
I thought he was bad at speaking.
15Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:15:17.51ID:DQkUP5vf0
Is there really something to be angry about?
16Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:15:36.04ID:Nd6Dls2w0
Even if someone is good at manzai, it doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll be good at scoring and commenting.
17Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:15:45.50ID:kcDTZUoV0
She’s not really suited to be a judge. Yamada Kuniko is better.
19Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:16:26.23ID:RvgsJILi0
We didn’t need this guy and Tetsuo.
20Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:16:47.72ID:oA4oL0+P0
Go ahead and be angry lol.
21Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:16:56.80ID:u/P+NqUZ0
Even though the Kanto people were trying so hard to make a fuss, the public enjoyed it and the ratings were high. It’s hilarious lol.
24Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:17:59.34ID:pcf1Smvy0
It was air.
25Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:18:11.87ID:shopxmao0
That’s it, right? It’s like a female version of Harigane Rock.
27Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:18:57.13ID:fTET2Q+w0
Even if you wave your arms around, you can’t reach it, so you’ll have to accept it for today, isn’t that a Kansai tradition?
29Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:19:19.73ID:NGO/3ALI0
In Kansai, it is the successor to high heels.
30Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:19:48.12ID:KGk+EX+I0
He seemed bad at speaking.
31Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:20:23.40ID:IBuejUbw0
These guys’ manzai is so funny. They appeared on The Manzai the other day and it was so funny.
33Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:21:09.19ID:wXheLoK90
It’s not selling that well in Kansai either.
34Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:21:13.94ID:hn+KqtFK0
It’s better to do manzai that the judges will accept rather than one that is funny.
35Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:21:24.90ID:4XjhBpDB0
Well, it was a bit vague. But Yamada Kuniko had a strong presence.
37Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:21:44.80ID:vfgxTgCF0
Don’t bring out local talent.
39Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:22:21.20ID:561JxSMq0
Wife of Koyo Maeda.
40Security guard [lv.53].Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:23:04.34ID:AWZBLg9Y0
Don’t broadcast it on terrestrial TV, broadcast it on Abema.
42Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:23:28.21ID:XAx5cz+e0
There was no presence.
43Security guard [lv.10].Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:23:40.26ID:rErIGT3q0
We don’t need some incompetent old lady.
44Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:23:45.95ID:bG4xFQKw0
Yamada Kuniko can talk.
62Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:27:20.58ID:rqv4oJdI0
>>44
But the actual stand-up routine isn’t funny.
48Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:24:34.48ID:FgoKks0M0
Aren’t they the only female duo who can do authentic manzai?
51Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:25:11.52ID:E2XjJ2Oo0
The excursion ends when the judges make excuses on the broadcast or radio.
56Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 25, 2024 (Wed) 01:26:03.22ID:YIdzEjqV0
It’s not that he doesn’t know manzai, in fact he knows it a lot, but I’m not sure if he’s suited to be a judge.
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