The sad reason why Watami’s Subway has an “extremely low” success rate... Why is it “not popular at all with Japanese people”?

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1Boiled eggs★.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:29:58.97ID:Sih+2yMo9
◼The world’s second-largest chain “struggles only in Japan”
What is the fast food chain with the most stores in the world?
To this question, most people would probably answer “McDonald’s.” So what is the second largest chain after McDonald’s, which boasts approximately 39,000 stores worldwide?

Starbucks?
KFC?
Actually, it’s neither. The answer is “Subway.” Subway, headquartered in the United States, is a huge restaurant chain that operates approximately 37,000 stores in over 100 countries and regions around the world. Its signature product is the oval-shaped “submarine sandwich,” which is also the origin of the store’s name. It has been a long-time favorite for about 60 years since it first opened, as it allows customers to easily eat plenty of vegetables. At one time, Subway boasted more stores than McDonald’s. There is one country where this “giant” of the chain world is struggling. Yes, Japan. At its peak in 2014, the company operated approximately 480 stores nationwide, but since then, a series of store closures have reduced the company’s size to approximately 180 stores, one-third of its peak number. This number is lower than that of McDonald’s or KFC, as well as Lotteria and Burger King, making it a very disappointing situation for a global chain. But then, suddenly, a “savior” appeared at Subway. On October 25th, Watami, a giant in the restaurant industry, announced that it had signed a master franchise agreement with Subway and would make Subway Japan a wholly owned subsidiary. ◼Get a “new toy”…
The master franchise agreement gave Watami the exclusive right to operate Subway in Japan. In addition, the operating rights of approximately 180 existing stores will also be transferred to Watami. “We want to change the image of the restaurant as an izakaya restaurant to something that is synonymous with ‘Subway Watami’ and gain support from younger generations. “We believe that Subway has great potential, and we will support the company’s challenge while demonstrating Watami’s unique style,” Watami Chairman and CEO Miki Watanabe said with confidence at a press conference on the 25th. The company has also launched ambitious plans to open a new flagship store in Tokyo in February or March 2025, and in the longer term, aims to expand to 3,000 stores. However, the reaction from industry insiders at the press conference was quite cold. (omitted)
◼Hopelessly incompatible with the Japanese character
And thus Watami acquired Subway. Is there really any chance of winning? At present, the “sandwiches” that Subway sells are experiencing a tailwind. Although the market size (2023) is expected to be 12.3 billion yen, smaller than hamburgers (981.1 billion yen) and chicken (177.6 billion yen), it is still expected to expand to 15.5 billion yen by 2028 due to the growing health consciousness. However, Nagata points out that the chances of a Watami Subway being successful are still extremely low. The reason for this is the Subway system itself, which has not changed since the Suntory era and which “has never been popular among Japanese people.” “Choose your favorite sandwich from the menu, choose your bread, add your toppings, and then choose your favorite vegetables, dressing and sauce. It goes without saying that this ordering system does not suit Japanese people. In the Japanese restaurant industry, one of the factors for success is said to be that the “broad outline of the menu” is set to a certain extent. For Japanese people, who are indecisive and have difficulty making choices, narrowing down the menu options suits their personality. Furthermore, the reason why Subway enjoys enduring popularity, especially in Europe and the United States, is that customers enjoy not only the deliciousness of the food, but also the ability to “interact with the staff” through the ordering system. This enjoyment is hard to feel for Japanese people, who tend to avoid casual conversations with strangers.”
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28Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:36:10.52ID:C1tlweOy0
>>1
What is the origin of Tenmei?
Was it a spiritual store?
3Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:30:38.92ID:8SuS85Ur0
Why did the LDP recommend this president?
4Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:31:08.55ID:cXZIyYji0
Is this a homey Subway?
Will they listen to my requests?
5Security Guard [lv.4] [Sprout].Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:31:42.56ID:zHuITHhh0
It’s easier to eat something the size of a small roll sandwich or a tortilla than the thick rolls you get at convenience stores. Subway is too big for the small mouths of Japanese people.
6Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:31:53.84ID:BF0nCtMa0
Does the ordering system really matter?
The staff will explain everything to you, so you just follow the instructions and say yes or no to choose anything, and it’s done.
Starbucks’s system is much more confusing.
36Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:37:15.96ID:arkJ36xT0
>>6
I don’t know anything about udon restaurants, so I don’t go there.
And Jiro too.
7Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:31:54.27ID:jPavfUTt0
By the way, is there a Subway inside the Tokyo Metro building?
20Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:34:27.75ID:CBDarEf70
>>7
It’s in Akasaka.
9Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:32:25.42ID:Ocjhe57M0
America has a highly developed meat industry, but vegetable farming cannot be intensively expanded, so fresh vegetables are relatively expensive. Eating a veggie sandwich is as much of a winning mode as typing on a computer at a crappy Starbucks. In developing countries, Japan doesn’t have any other developed industries, so veggie sandwiches aren’t appreciated at all, and no one would buy one even if they were sold as something from LA lol.
91Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:44:31.05ID:aj6MHv0Z0
>>9
I think it’s probably this.
In Japan, if you want to eat vegetables, you can get a salad cheaply at the supermarket or convenience store.
But if you want to eat something meaty cheaply, you have to go to a fast food restaurant.
I don’t think it’s because they let you choose.
10Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:32:31.41ID:3xEWOzPe0
I won’t go to Subway anymore.
11Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:33:18.48ID:uolo8TCq0
If Watami were to start a new business, it would probably be a resignation agent service, which is likely to be thriving as there are many people who want to leave the Watami Group.
12Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:33:20.38ID:SSdYz7Me0
I go to Burger King because I don’t like pickles. When I want to eat lots of tuna, I go to Subway. When I find tomatoes annoying, I go to Burger King or Subway. I’m grateful for the two stores that allow me to eliminate ingredients I don’t like.
13Security Guard [lv.3] [Sprout].Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:33:37.02ID:GUZzQrzh0
Ishimaru Shinji was cast in the commercial.
14Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:34:06.42ID:nLk9vx8M0
I’ve only eaten it once.
15Security Guard [lv.11].Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:34:15.91ID:0dkBeUN70
Even McDonald’s is a hassle for me.
16Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:34:16.13ID:Ymb22NmF0
Japanese people love to chant spells over things like ramen and coffee.
37Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:37:21.67ID:zY6rTVGm0
>>16
The spell is standard
It’s not ad lib.
18Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:34:19.38ID:PSK0nXTI0
Just say “leave it to me” and they’ll make something delicious.
19Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:34:20.42ID:QBvlKyBY0
Sabu♂ x Sabu♂ Yeah.
21Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:34:58.37ID:QPuLbF/a0
I love Subway so I’m happy, but I don’t think it’s possible to have 3000 stores in Japan. I hope it becomes a buffet style.
23Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:35:29.88ID:Ymb22NmF0
You can order using your smartphone or touch panel.
24Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:35:32.85ID:WZhXE4TV0
If it becomes a subsidiary of Black Watami, it should be renamed Underground.
26Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:35:45.71ID:xmV/L6PV0
A few years ago, Watami focused on yakiniku and fried chicken, but I wonder if they’ve been doing well since then.
27Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:36:05.97ID:L7PkTsS40
I don’t know, but don’t they hand over the blueprints via smartphone?
29Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:36:24.31ID:kxdSUb5r0
A full set with two toppings and soup was around 1500 yen,
but at a foreign-run burger place that opened near my office, the set cost 2400 yen lol.
30Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:36:30.37ID:YkHPdPsQ0
Everything is kind of half-baked and I don’t really know what they want me to eat.
52Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:38:54.29ID:kxdSUb5r0
>>30
It’s a sandwich with lots of vegetables, right?
Anything else?
31Security Guard [lv.9] [Sprout].Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:36:36.35ID:ASoaNfGI0
Are there any vegetarians in Japan?
32Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:36:37.38ID:YlIAtBAX0
Because Subway isn’t tasty.
33Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:36:40.93ID:diFb/sn70
I have an acquaintance who left Watami and moved to Subway, but he’s back at his old job. He must be crying right now.
34Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:36:49.32ID:1S/LYdzu0
It’s strange that a black company like Watami remains in business in Japanese society.
38Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:37:21.75ID:J8xPXHsb0
Even Starbucks can be confusing the first time you see it, and the ordering system is a problem.
40Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:37:30.17ID:bIgurpEz0
Do I have to read Watami’s books before I can order it?
43Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:37:58.54ID:UJNzoNoC0
I love that the menu isn’t set in stone and you can customize it however you like, but I’m shocked I’m in the minority.
44Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:38:06.57ID:BF0nCtMa0
I think it’s not so much the ordering system, but the bread isn’t tasty and the menu is basically cold, so it’s not popular.
45Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:38:06.87ID:M6/zgeBL0
I’d like a cutlet sandwich, please.
46Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:38:07.99ID:KpVkvoBt0
It’s expensive for such a low calorie content that it’s not a good meal choice here. Please serve sandwiches with at least 500 kcal.
47Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:38:14.28ID:pD9e5mug0
Ordering is a pain, that’s the only reason I don’t go there often.
56Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 12, 2024 (Tue) 19:39:36.24ID:E/QRcds90
I wonder if it’s a place for health-conscious women to go. I think it would be solved if they hired handsome staff.
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