Subway, the world’s second-largest fast-food chain, faces challenges in Japan due to cultural preferences and changing trends.
1@Old Man Friends Club ★.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:37:20.60ID:cXMgCnFa9
Subway is a sandwich chain whose trademark is its green and yellow logo. In the United States, where Subway originated, it operates more than 20,000 stores as of 2023, making it the most popular chain in terms of number of stores among major food chains such as McDonald’s and Starbucks. With approximately 37,000 stores worldwide, it is the second largest fast food chain in the world after McDonald’s. Meanwhile, Subway’s operations in Japan peaked 10 years ago in 2014, when it had around 480 stores, and has since been shrinking. After the COVID-19 pandemic, the number of stores nationwide has now decreased to 178, less than 40% of its peak. [Omitted]
● Many people want a “pre-made product”
So what is the reason why Subway is struggling to grow in Japan? I asked Shigemori. “One of the main reasons is that the way Subway orders are served does not suit the Japanese national character. This is because a large proportion of Japanese people tend to look for “finished products” such as standardized products and packaged goods. They also tend to prefer simple ordering methods and want to get their products quickly, while Subway is unique in that customers can customize their products by choosing the type of bread, toppings, sauces, etc. In America, the ability to express originality through personal customization is in line with the national character of valuing the individual, and has been embraced. These differences in the national character of Japanese and Americans are likely the reason for the large difference in the support rate for Subway in the two countries.”
Continued in Gendai Business 2024/11/29.
● Many people want a “pre-made product”
So what is the reason why Subway is struggling to grow in Japan? I asked Shigemori. “One of the main reasons is that the way Subway orders are served does not suit the Japanese national character. This is because a large proportion of Japanese people tend to look for “finished products” such as standardized products and packaged goods. They also tend to prefer simple ordering methods and want to get their products quickly, while Subway is unique in that customers can customize their products by choosing the type of bread, toppings, sauces, etc. In America, the ability to express originality through personal customization is in line with the national character of valuing the individual, and has been embraced. These differences in the national character of Japanese and Americans are likely the reason for the large difference in the support rate for Subway in the two countries.”
Continued in Gendai Business 2024/11/29.
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45Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:47:03.92ID:l3wy5Y2z0
>>1 There are so many options that it’s hard to understand at first glance, but it’s also a hassle to take the time to ask a staff member for confirmation when there are people in line, so maybe that’s why people avoid going there?
People who don’t use the store regularly will panic a little when they see the type of bread available, not knowing which one to choose.
People who don’t use the store regularly will panic a little when they see the type of bread available, not knowing which one to choose.
2Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:37:41.29ID:ZP5QMatN0
expensive.
4Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:37:48.92ID:c5PZQt2v0
It’s rice after all.
5Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:38:47.17ID:G3LdO1Fz0
It was there for a while, so I only went once.
10Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:39:27.72ID:DzNeeLX80
Starbucks is widespread, so it just depends on how you do it.
21Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:42:13.26ID:GAfjhokY0
>>10
Maybe it would have been better if they’d made it like Starbucks, where you could buy both the finished product and customize it.
Maybe it would have been better if they’d made it like Starbucks, where you could buy both the finished product and customize it.
11Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:39:30.05ID:dfiZ2R/+0
In the first place, if I want to express my own individual tastes in the menu, I’ll cook for myself.
12Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:39:56.15ID:k3ed4nAD0
Are Japanese people stupid and unable to think for themselves?
13Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:40:18.76ID:GAfjhokY0
Is it because it’s not addictive like junk food?
14Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:40:52.18ID:ZZJJ6reP0
Of course, that kind of dry bread would be no good.
16Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:41:29.79ID:0xVGeCdb0
The accounting is too slow. They’re just too busy.
17Security Guard [lv.13] [Sprout].Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:41:41.43ID:SBZyZtrk0
From the type of bread to the choice of vegetables, there is too much interaction involved in ordering, which is tedious.
18Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:41:47.81ID:3WLDLeSd0
Is that why there are idiots who start dancing in tourist spots?
19Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:42:00.40ID:TzHQlRQc0
It has to be fried or baked.
20Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:42:04.49ID:o09BuuIB0
Is it because there’s a Mos Burger in the Subway position?
No, that’s not it at all…
No, that’s not it at all…
23Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:42:32.68ID:CSiUQUPo0
The Japanese are a people who receive things from above, so they have difficulty acting independently as a sovereign nation.
24Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:42:56.65ID:fQno0Gpj0
Starbucks or Jiro, for example.
25Security Guard [lv.25].Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:42:58.54ID:Gy5mIjFU0
I used to go there quite often when I was there, but I haven’t eaten there once since I came back. I just don’t feel like going here.
26Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:43:09.90ID:9DrZvAIh0
Yes, even the annoying ramen shops that keep telling you all about their particularities and trivia don’t just say “This is ours! If you don’t like it, don’t come!” They ask you how firm you want your noodles, how strong you want the flavor, and how oily you want them.
28Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:43:19.66ID:O3IhLGVA0
It’s too expensive for Japanese people.
30Security guard [lv.15].Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:43:54.68ID:xovvZk4e0
“Please give me this. Everything is normal. ” Is it enough to be able to do that?
55Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:48:25.65ID:GAfjhokY0
>>30
Yes
The key is to decide on a staple.
Yes
The key is to decide on a staple.
87Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:52:11.43ID:op/SW7IM0
>>30
You can?
It might be possible now because they use tablets to order,
but when they had staff ordering, if you told them to leave it to them,
they would make bread and dressing from the basic menu set by Subway.
You can?
It might be possible now because they use tablets to order,
but when they had staff ordering, if you told them to leave it to them,
they would make bread and dressing from the basic menu set by Subway.
31Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:44:26.72ID:/bGaVbcV0
It’s not that much of a hassle to just ask them to make it for you. It’s not because I don’t make it myself, but first of all the bread tastes bad. The bread was dry and tasteless, not suited to Japanese tastes. The fillings were all pretty much the same and there was no attempt to cater to Japanese tastes. I soon stopped going.
32Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:44:39.35ID:KaZ0DH9x0
The ordering process is tedious.
33Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:44:48.71ID:27ySfJkj0
It’s fun because it’s raw vegetables and you can choose from a variety of options, but in the end it always ends up being the same. I no longer settle for the Milano sandwich at the nearby Doutor.
34Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:45:09.04ID:ZdnW5+Lo0
It’s not just the customers, there are also many store clerks who are not even the slightest bit flexible.
36Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:45:17.14ID:DtS3ZP+/0
It’s probably because they sell better sandwiches. Why are foreigners raving about convenience store sandwiches but not knowing anything else? lol
38Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:45:49.89ID:UlDzujVe0
Umm,
When you take it home,
it’s all soggy with the water from the vegetables
and you have to eat it on the spot
When you order a takeaway set, make sure the bread is separate
If there are two of you, you can order half and half
Make a set product.
When you take it home,
it’s all soggy with the water from the vegetables
and you have to eat it on the spot
When you order a takeaway set, make sure the bread is separate
If there are two of you, you can order half and half
Make a set product.
39Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:46:02.49ID:gWU2OP8H0
In that respect, it’s a good thing that the number of stores with semi-self-service registers is increasing. It reduces stress by eliminating the need to deal with troublesome interactions with store clerks regarding payment methods and point handling.
40Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:46:22.77ID:ZCN/uQ300
There’s no A set?! (Furious).
41Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:46:28.21ID:l1Ru7zIV0
No, I don’t think that’s the issue. Don’t blame everything on national character.
42Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:46:39.54ID:KYGJvk1x0
I don’t really care about vegetables, so just give me the “regular” ones quickly.
43Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:46:42.63ID:SwOyqjCM0
There are simply other cheaper and tastier options out there.
46Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:47:08.91ID:nvDyWztt0
Who wants to go to a restaurant with a huge queue full of idiots struggling to order?
47Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:47:11.31ID:hTO80D8R0
Because it’s not worth the taste for the price.
48Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:47:12.60ID:gGNzsQG/0
Japanese people can’t make decisions for themselves.
49Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:47:22.40ID:0X7SirkT0
Wasn’t it recently acquired by a Japanese company called Subway?
50Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:47:28.76ID:ECQ2KG0i0
Because it’s impossible for old people.
51Security Guard [lv.12].Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:47:48.56ID:3AzNqitp0
Starbucks is supported by conscious people.
56Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:49:03.18ID:ZgG4SKGr0
Since it’s Watami, I don’t think it will be any good in the future.
57Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:49:33.25ID:GAfjhokY0
>>56
It’s over lol.
It’s over lol.
59Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:49:46.82ID:sFxNQa/I0
If you show your true self, you’ll get bullied.
76Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:51:28.84ID:UXsQpQm80
I like the Subway style but it’s expensive so I don’t go there often.
78Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:51:29.99ID:kzv1fvm80
The sandwiches from supermarkets and convenience stores are tasty enough.
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