0001Insect encyclopedia ★.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 08:19:24.74ID:14iBKwDS
During the scorching hot summer, an electric vehicle fire that occurred in South Korea has become a hot topic. Amidst all this, Japanese EVs, which are often ridiculed as being “lagging behind,” are quietly gaining attention. In fact, its safety is said to be incredible. Here we take a closer look at the secret behind why Japanese EVs prevent fires. ■It will never catch fire!? Nissan’s EV
The EV is on fire!
This month, there have been a series of fires in South Korea that are likely caused by EV batteries. Of particular interest is the EV fire accident that occurred on the 1st of this month. Specifically, a Mercedes-Benz eqe350 parked in the underground parking lot of an apartment building caught fire, burning 40 cars in the parking lot. By the way, the eqe350 was equipped with a battery from a Chinese manufacturer. As a result of this fire, there are moves in South Korea to restrict the use of EVs in underground parking lots at apartment complexes and close charging stations. (Omitted)
However, what is strange is that while we hear about EV fires involving foreign brand cars, we don’t hear about any fires involving Japanese EVs, perhaps because the number is so small. On the contrary, the Nissan Leaf, which debuted in 2010 as the world’s first mass-produced EV, is said to be world-famous as an EV that will never catch fire. “The Leaf is the world’s first mass-marketed EV, so failure is out of the question. “We’ve poured all of our knowledge of ’Nissan’s technology into this.” (Nissan insider)
What’s the secret behind Japanese-made EVs not exploding? Car life journalist Yoichiro Watanabe explains. –Why don’t Japanese EVs explode?
Watanabe: A big part of it is that they spend a lot of money on thorough measures to prevent fires. Specifically, heat generation checks are carried out thoroughly at every possible unit, and the battery temperature is constantly controlled. Furthermore, Japanese manufacturers have always prioritized safety when it comes to battery development, regardless of the effort and cost involved in manufacturing, when it comes to the shape of the battery, the materials used for the electrodes, and even measures to prevent the fire from spreading to other cells in the unlikely event of a fire inside the battery. –Why do Japanese manufacturers take such thorough safety measures?
Watanabe: It has to do with the national character and corporate culture, but I think the problem of defective cars produced by Japanese manufacturers in the 1960s and 1970s also had an impact. The defects at the time ranged from brake failure to fuel leaks, and actually even fires. For example, there have been cases where the implementation of emission control measures has caused a vehicle’s exhaust system to overheat and catch fire when it came into contact with grass growing in the parking area. As a result of a series of accidents caused by these types of defects, a recall system was established in 1969, and safety awareness among domestic automobile manufacturers improved dramatically. As an aside, more than 20 years ago, a director of a Japanese automobile manufacturer told me, “I recently visited a nuclear power plant, and I found that safety awareness and countermeasures were far too low. I heard that “that kind of thinking and measures would never work at an automobile manufacturer.’’ Then the Great East Japan Earthquake occurred, and the directors’ concerns were realized. In recent years, Japanese automakers have become extremely safety conscious, and to be more precise, they are extremely cautious about safety. –Japanese automakers have always focused on safety. If Watanabe Motors has a defect, it could lead directly to accidents resulting in death or injury. Even if the rate of defective products is 0.01% (1 in 10,000), if a car sells 20,000 units per month, two fatal accidents each month for the same model of car would occur for which the manufacturer is responsible, which could trigger bankruptcy. Based on past experience with defective vehicles, Japanese automakers understand the importance of safety and the dire consequences that can come from neglecting it. That’s why Japanese EVs don’t burn. The reason why Japanese manufacturers are cautious about the practical application of autonomous driving and robot taxis is similar; it’s not that they are lagging behind, but that they are being cautious. –The battery involved in the recent fire in South Korea was made by a Chinese manufacturer. Watanabe: This is just my imagination, but China’s automobile industry has grown rapidly since 2000. Unlike Japan, the United States has little experience of being harshly criticized by the public or the media for defective cars. Maybe safety awareness is not developed yet. *Related threads
[Hankyoreh Newspaper] EVs burning all over the world… Why do EV battery fires occur? [8/20] [Insect Encyclopedia★].
The EV is on fire!
This month, there have been a series of fires in South Korea that are likely caused by EV batteries. Of particular interest is the EV fire accident that occurred on the 1st of this month. Specifically, a Mercedes-Benz eqe350 parked in the underground parking lot of an apartment building caught fire, burning 40 cars in the parking lot. By the way, the eqe350 was equipped with a battery from a Chinese manufacturer. As a result of this fire, there are moves in South Korea to restrict the use of EVs in underground parking lots at apartment complexes and close charging stations. (Omitted)
However, what is strange is that while we hear about EV fires involving foreign brand cars, we don’t hear about any fires involving Japanese EVs, perhaps because the number is so small. On the contrary, the Nissan Leaf, which debuted in 2010 as the world’s first mass-produced EV, is said to be world-famous as an EV that will never catch fire. “The Leaf is the world’s first mass-marketed EV, so failure is out of the question. “We’ve poured all of our knowledge of ’Nissan’s technology into this.” (Nissan insider)
What’s the secret behind Japanese-made EVs not exploding? Car life journalist Yoichiro Watanabe explains. –Why don’t Japanese EVs explode?
Watanabe: A big part of it is that they spend a lot of money on thorough measures to prevent fires. Specifically, heat generation checks are carried out thoroughly at every possible unit, and the battery temperature is constantly controlled. Furthermore, Japanese manufacturers have always prioritized safety when it comes to battery development, regardless of the effort and cost involved in manufacturing, when it comes to the shape of the battery, the materials used for the electrodes, and even measures to prevent the fire from spreading to other cells in the unlikely event of a fire inside the battery. –Why do Japanese manufacturers take such thorough safety measures?
Watanabe: It has to do with the national character and corporate culture, but I think the problem of defective cars produced by Japanese manufacturers in the 1960s and 1970s also had an impact. The defects at the time ranged from brake failure to fuel leaks, and actually even fires. For example, there have been cases where the implementation of emission control measures has caused a vehicle’s exhaust system to overheat and catch fire when it came into contact with grass growing in the parking area. As a result of a series of accidents caused by these types of defects, a recall system was established in 1969, and safety awareness among domestic automobile manufacturers improved dramatically. As an aside, more than 20 years ago, a director of a Japanese automobile manufacturer told me, “I recently visited a nuclear power plant, and I found that safety awareness and countermeasures were far too low. I heard that “that kind of thinking and measures would never work at an automobile manufacturer.’’ Then the Great East Japan Earthquake occurred, and the directors’ concerns were realized. In recent years, Japanese automakers have become extremely safety conscious, and to be more precise, they are extremely cautious about safety. –Japanese automakers have always focused on safety. If Watanabe Motors has a defect, it could lead directly to accidents resulting in death or injury. Even if the rate of defective products is 0.01% (1 in 10,000), if a car sells 20,000 units per month, two fatal accidents each month for the same model of car would occur for which the manufacturer is responsible, which could trigger bankruptcy. Based on past experience with defective vehicles, Japanese automakers understand the importance of safety and the dire consequences that can come from neglecting it. That’s why Japanese EVs don’t burn. The reason why Japanese manufacturers are cautious about the practical application of autonomous driving and robot taxis is similar; it’s not that they are lagging behind, but that they are being cautious. –The battery involved in the recent fire in South Korea was made by a Chinese manufacturer. Watanabe: This is just my imagination, but China’s automobile industry has grown rapidly since 2000. Unlike Japan, the United States has little experience of being harshly criticized by the public or the media for defective cars. Maybe safety awareness is not developed yet. *Related threads
[Hankyoreh Newspaper] EVs burning all over the world… Why do EV battery fires occur? [8/20] [Insect Encyclopedia★].
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0104<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 10:45:09.35ID:C5OKUu3Q(1/2)
>>1
You can’t touch the Korean battery that exploded and caught fire a few days later.
You can’t touch the Korean battery that exploded and caught fire a few days later.
0003<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 08:21:24.11ID:pLQB+Cp6(1/2)
Is it just that there are fewer of them in circulation?
0059<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 09:23:29.99ID:IT8iYtYG
>>3
So this is what jealousy is like.
So this is what jealousy is like.
0092<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 10:27:37.71ID:9fg0XUYE
>>3
Even though the number of EVs sold per year is small, Japan has been selling EVs for the longest time.
In total, there is probably no difference with the number of EVs sold by other manufacturers.
They have been selling them for a long time, so there must be some that are still in use even though they have deteriorated, but they are still safer than new EVs with Chinese batteries.
Even though the number of EVs sold per year is small, Japan has been selling EVs for the longest time.
In total, there is probably no difference with the number of EVs sold by other manufacturers.
They have been selling them for a long time, so there must be some that are still in use even though they have deteriorated, but they are still safer than new EVs with Chinese batteries.
0004<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 08:23:40.51ID:eDejMUDs
Chinese products tend to be cheap and of poor quality, so I only choose disposable products.
0006<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 08:26:34.54ID:wtX8BgoD(1/2)
Don’t you understand?
That’s called technology.
That’s called technology.
0042Security guard [lv.29] [r Martial +1] [r Defense +1].Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 09:09:44.64ID:Ul1WS5GO
>>6
No matter how great the energy, it is just a natural phenomenon in itself, and humans are not great.
We gather only what is convenient for humans.
We confine it so that it does not exceed the limits of our ability to handle.
That is how great humans are.
No matter how great the energy, it is just a natural phenomenon in itself, and humans are not great.
We gather only what is convenient for humans.
We confine it so that it does not exceed the limits of our ability to handle.
That is how great humans are.
0007<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 08:28:08.07ID:v6SbsA59
I heard that the battery in a Nissan EV won’t catch fire even if it’s pierced with a metal rod.
0008<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 08:29:00.13ID:NU6t6PXA
The media and critics are heavily responsible for allowing the market to become flooded with cars that are of home appliance quality rather than car quality, by hyping up the idea that EVs will turn cars into home appliances.
0093Security Guard [lv.11] [Sprout].Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 10:27:44.88ID:YzyiVori
>>8
Even household appliances don’t burn that much.
Even household appliances don’t burn that much.
0009<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 08:30:21.51ID:g93pbjQI
Part of the reason is probably because America is a litigious society, and punitive damages can be astronomical.
0011<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 08:33:13.14ID:um1V9r/Q
What China and Korea can make is different from what Japan can make.
0012<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 08:33:18.84ID:qTekgttS
A current-generation Leaf caught fire while charging in the parking lot of Nissan’s North American headquarters.
0013Monster cat ◆bakenekob6.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 08:33:32.18ID:xac2JJnS(1/2)
(=^・^=) Actually, it doesn’t have a battery. It moves with foot pedals.
0015<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 08:35:53.96ID:wNnIcGH0
It’s just common knowledge in Japan that cheap doesn’t necessarily mean bad quality.
0017<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 08:38:41.93ID:HTlngk3Y
I did think that the cost performance was poor compared to foreign EVs, but I guess this was due to these factors.
0018<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 08:39:13.56ID:pLQB+Cp6(2/2)
Is it really something to be proud of that there are fewer fires compared to China-made products?
0019<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 08:40:29.07ID:LAhCA2+m
A country where life is cheap is relatively safe.
0026Monster cat ◆bakenekob6.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 08:47:58.03ID:xac2JJnS(2/2)
>>21
(=^・^=) Nowadays, helmets are recommended even for bicycles
Keeping on the left side of the road and the traffic law.
(=^・^=) Nowadays, helmets are recommended even for bicycles
Keeping on the left side of the road and the traffic law.
0022<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 08:44:46.66ID:XtU+kH4b(1/2)
A while ago there was a video showing that the repair estimate for a Mercedes hybrid vehicle was 4 million yen.
0023<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 08:46:02.66ID:+GYK1q8o(1/2)
This is because Japanese-made EVs don’t put strain on the batteries.
0025<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 08:47:17.52ID:vvcOeMQD
But the test data is faked.
0027<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 08:48:26.01ID:L8mw9uU4
>Furthermore, in the unlikely event of a fire inside the battery, there are measures to prevent the fire from spreading to other cells.
Seriously?
Is this even possible now?
Seriously?
Is this even possible now?
0028<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 08:49:59.85ID:mIosqod9
It’s fine in Japan, but we need a system that can flexibly respond to the level of safety required in each country, and in Africa, it may be too high quality.
0033<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 09:00:56.78ID:DvdAIEPA(2/2)
>>28
But manufacturers are dealing with human lives
Everyone has their own ideas about what they want to make and what they want to work for at a company that values it.
But manufacturers are dealing with human lives
Everyone has their own ideas about what they want to make and what they want to work for at a company that values it.
0098<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 10:40:17.75ID:qowLas5a
>>28
Popular in the Middle East and Africa is the Toyota Land Cruiser, a car that’s safe and reliable.
Popular in the Middle East and Africa is the Toyota Land Cruiser, a car that’s safe and reliable.
0030<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 08:52:04.63ID:A4l9U+BN
I guess it’s a part of our national character.
0031<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 08:52:21.26ID:5AVsCnLp
Even when it comes to buildings, safety awareness is so different that while China uses bamboo frames, Japan uses steel bars.
0032<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 08:59:12.60ID:DvdAIEPA(1/2)
At first glance, the reason Japan seems to be lagging behind is safety. But with a “slow and steady wins the race” mentality, they will end up at the forefront.
0034Security Guard [lv.8] [Sprout].Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 09:01:17.70ID:l3jJSsyF(1/2)
It would be terrible if it were parked on the first floor of a pre-built house and caught fire.
0036<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 09:03:56.36ID:MvV4JbBV(1/2)
>>34
I’m sure this will continue to happen with Chinese and Korean cars in the future
It’s strange that there are no regulations in place.
I’m sure this will continue to happen with Chinese and Korean cars in the future
It’s strange that there are no regulations in place.
0035<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 09:01:51.99ID:tJlb/sCF(1/4)
I thought the first generation Nissan Leaf would soon be gone, but every time I see one I’m impressed by how amazing it is. What’s more, there have been no fires, which shows just how careful they are (with some exceptions).
0038Security guard [lv.23].Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 09:06:41.61ID:tVmN2o4u(1/3)
If they’re going to make one, they’ll focus on safety, but they still seem reluctant to make an EV in the first place.
0039<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 09:07:45.13ID:f1HOq58s
To begin with, EVs aren’t selling that well in Japan.
0049<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 09:18:54.23ID:2XEXVx69
Safety is secondary for Chinese and Korean companies, and the focus is on how to complete the project as cheaply as possible.
0054<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 09:21:18.17ID:i37w5yT+(4/7)
>>50
It’s a good company.
It’s a good company.
0053<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 09:20:45.38ID:oRtfNT/m
They set quality standards that are too strict and when they cannot meet them they falsify test records.
0058<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Aug. 30, 2024 (Fri) 09:23:28.83ID:sREka+D4(1/2)
Please ban the import of EV vehicles until their safety can be ensured.
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