0001Old Men’s Friends Club ★.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 17:50:17.09ID:LSPRn2ds9
The International Olympic Committee (IOC) Athletes’ Commission announced that there were more than 8,500 instances of defamatory comments online against athletes and their associates during the Paris Olympics. In Japan, too, a series of users posting heartless comments to losing athletes became a problem, and a few days after the end of the Olympics, Yokohama DeNA Baystars player Sekine Taiki announced that his request for disclosure of sender information regarding defamatory posts against him had been granted, which became a hot topic. Writer Miyazoe Yu asked users who repeatedly posted derogatory remarks about athletes on social media about why they made such derogatory posts. Athletes, both professional and amateur, are plagued by online slander. Recently in Japan too, there has been an increasing number of public announcements that they have filed lawsuits or filed claims for damages. Until now, how to deal with slander has been left to the discretion of each individual player, but it is expected that the Japan Professional Baseball Players Association and other sports organizations will follow suit. A reporter from the social affairs department of a major newspaper who conducted the interview explained that these recent changes will mark a major turning point in measures to combat slander against athletes. [Omitted]
If you doubt whether the words being hurled at players are really so bad that they can’t concentrate on playing, just take a look at social media during professional baseball games. Batters who strike out in a good opportunity, or pitchers who are hit in a pinch, have a number of insults such as “go die,” “you idiot,” and “quit baseball” hurled directly at them from anonymous social media accounts. During international soccer matches, players who accidentally commit a foul that causes an opponent to be injured and sent off are often called murderers and told to stop playing soccer. As I was checking the social media accounts of these slanderous people in real time, I noticed something. About half of all abusive posts tend to be deleted within a day or so of being posted. Perhaps they lost their temper and made the slanderous remark, but after some time they calmed down and quietly deleted it without apologizing or correcting the remark. [Omitted]
The author saved a post from a user who had made derogatory and slanderous remarks about a certain athlete who competed in the Paris Olympics, calling him “a piece of trash who is no longer fit to be an athlete,” “he should retire as soon as possible,” and “don’t crush the dreams of other athletes.” From the post, we discovered that he is a restaurant owner in the Kansai region, and interviewed him by phone. At first, he refused to be interviewed, saying, “I don’t know,” but later, when he called back from his mobile phone, he seemed almost confused and begged, “Please let me apologize,” and explained as follows: “I just wrote down what I thought about various athletes and celebrities. I believe it’s freedom of speech, but if it’s a crime I’ll delete it, so please tell me which post it is. Because I am self-employed, if my family or business partners find out that I have made slanderous remarks, it would be the end of my life. Instead, they simply posted something and only a few hundred users saw the post. Why are you targeting me? “There are many other people who post terrible things,” said the man who made the slanderous remarks.
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2024.09.01 16:00.
If you doubt whether the words being hurled at players are really so bad that they can’t concentrate on playing, just take a look at social media during professional baseball games. Batters who strike out in a good opportunity, or pitchers who are hit in a pinch, have a number of insults such as “go die,” “you idiot,” and “quit baseball” hurled directly at them from anonymous social media accounts. During international soccer matches, players who accidentally commit a foul that causes an opponent to be injured and sent off are often called murderers and told to stop playing soccer. As I was checking the social media accounts of these slanderous people in real time, I noticed something. About half of all abusive posts tend to be deleted within a day or so of being posted. Perhaps they lost their temper and made the slanderous remark, but after some time they calmed down and quietly deleted it without apologizing or correcting the remark. [Omitted]
The author saved a post from a user who had made derogatory and slanderous remarks about a certain athlete who competed in the Paris Olympics, calling him “a piece of trash who is no longer fit to be an athlete,” “he should retire as soon as possible,” and “don’t crush the dreams of other athletes.” From the post, we discovered that he is a restaurant owner in the Kansai region, and interviewed him by phone. At first, he refused to be interviewed, saying, “I don’t know,” but later, when he called back from his mobile phone, he seemed almost confused and begged, “Please let me apologize,” and explained as follows: “I just wrote down what I thought about various athletes and celebrities. I believe it’s freedom of speech, but if it’s a crime I’ll delete it, so please tell me which post it is. Because I am self-employed, if my family or business partners find out that I have made slanderous remarks, it would be the end of my life. Instead, they simply posted something and only a few hundred users saw the post. Why are you targeting me? “There are many other people who post terrible things,” said the man who made the slanderous remarks.
Continued on News Post Seven
2024.09.01 16:00.
パリ五輪選手への誹謗中傷投稿を慌てて消した中年男性の弁明「思ったことを書いただけ」「他にもひどい投稿をしている人はたくさんいる」
パリ五輪の期間中、選手やその関係者に対するインターネットでの誹謗中傷は8500件超あったと、国際オリンピック委員会(IOC)選手委員会が発表した。日本でも、負けた選手へ心ない言葉を投稿…
0020Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 18:00:44.12ID:3+GwgdB20(1/6)
>>1
>There were over 8500 slanderous comments
I want to see all of these posts
If they were really slanderous, then they’d be out, but I think they also contain criticism of the gameplay and harsh critiques.
>There were over 8500 slanderous comments
I want to see all of these posts
If they were really slanderous, then they’d be out, but I think they also contain criticism of the gameplay and harsh critiques.
0087Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 18:51:03.04ID:MJH7dCZ80
>>1
Criticism or comments about a player’s play do not constitute slander.
Criticism or comments about a player’s play do not constitute slander.
0002Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 17:51:29.74ID:TgkLykKK0
I wish they’d hurry up and file a request for disclosure of information, identify the individual, and sue him for defamation.
0003Security Guard [lv.10] [Sprout].Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 17:52:22.40ID:AuklTGfX0
Don’t use social media, stick to 5ch.
0091Security Guard [lv.19].Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 18:54:57.62ID:nUAYVXtk0
>>3
There are risks here too. It can’t be helped that people who write in the same tone on social media as here are stupid.
There are risks here too. It can’t be helped that people who write in the same tone on social media as here are stupid.
0004Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 17:52:39.03ID:+EetUWes0(1/5)
What? A reporter tracked down the poster?
That’s scary how they did it.
That’s scary how they did it.
0008Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 17:54:47.19ID:lYhyseTJ0
>>4
Do you have any idea?
Sleep in fear.
Do you have any idea?
Sleep in fear.
0025Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 18:03:12.68ID:F4SAxpjn0(2/2)
>>4
The poor old man and woman are scared lol.
The poor old man and woman are scared lol.
0026Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 18:03:19.16ID:RO+I27nc0
>>4
People with a strong need for approval but few followers often slander celebrities to promote themselves and gain attention.
I guess they probably showed off their wealth on Instagram by showing off their business in the profile section and linking to Instagram.
People with a strong need for approval but few followers often slander celebrities to promote themselves and gain attention.
I guess they probably showed off their wealth on Instagram by showing off their business in the profile section and linking to Instagram.
0005Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 17:53:37.39ID:q9CjDrJs0(1/2)
As for the Olympics, I just watched videos of men’s breaking and men’s skateboarding. That was 10 minutes of my time at the Olympics.
0009Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 17:55:03.64ID:+wZzlFDK0
Thanks to Sekine, the annoying Hanshin fan x who posts slanderous comments about Hanshin has disappeared. He knows he might get sued.
0010Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 17:55:04.51ID:b61XZuGL0
You have dementia.
0011Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 17:56:25.81ID:ieR2+rJR0(1/15)
Entertainment, showbiz, and sports exist thanks to the low-class people who are unable to control themselves and act on their emotions, making excessive slander, so I think we should be lenient with this kind of slander. In the end, we’re dealing with ignorant people who are obsessed with begging on the riverbanks, a fake business that doesn’t affect anyone whether it exists or not, so it’s a mutual thing.
0108Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 19:10:54.62ID:L2rBrbOY0
>>11
You must be of a very high status to be able to speak out with such openly discriminatory views.
You must be of a very high status to be able to speak out with such openly discriminatory views.
0012Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 17:59:01.75ID:HGeD7NJn0
Back in the day, that would just end with people talking to themselves in front of the TV. I think it would be better to ban social media from this world.
0013Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 17:59:08.83ID:Xu4Phcy10
A poor old man and woman living in a one-room apartment.
0014Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 17:59:30.24ID:aSIqCrHZ0
It was reported as if only Japanese people were doing this, but it was done all over the world.
0015Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 17:59:35.69ID:ieR2+rJR0(2/15)
The root cause is the system that allows celebrities and unknown ordinary people to easily interact on SNS like X, but for celebrities who want to make a name for themselves and companies who want to sell things, they are faced with a dilemma: they can’t stop because it’s easier to deceive the stupid masses when they feel a sense of familiarity with celebrities by casually interacting with them. But trying to get the best of both worlds is a bit selfish.
0018Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 18:00:13.34ID:bWKZSDrG0
Not only did I write it, I also posted it.
0019Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 18:00:27.62ID:egVLSavU0
When I was a kid and my bad behaviour was discovered, my parents and teachers would often tell me, “Listen, excuses like ’I’m not the only one’ won’t work in society.”
0021Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 18:01:37.81ID:C4LZqww80
I’ll take all the stress off of you.
0022Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 18:02:04.27ID:ieR2+rJR0(3/15)
I don’t understand why someone would be so seriously hurt by a bunch of random people telling them to go die.
0032Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 18:06:00.76ID:s/Y4EDA30
>>22
You don’t have to worry about it being disclosed or going to court
I hope they keep suing.
You don’t have to worry about it being disclosed or going to court
I hope they keep suing.
0023Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 18:02:07.55ID:+T7S8YCl0
I feel that freedom of expression is in danger. They’re cracking down on slander more than necessary.
0027Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 18:03:19.79ID:snQNUS6a0
If you’re going to erase it then don’t write it in the first place lol.
0028Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 18:04:08.46ID:ieR2+rJR0(4/15)
Entertainers and athletes are in the business of appealing to the general public, saying “I’m amazing! Everyone, look at me!”, so if they get people’s hopes up and it turns out to be nothing special, I think they should be content to accept the reasonable response they get. If you don’t like that then just quietly do an honest job as an anonymous ordinary person.
0029Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 18:04:18.05ID:q9CjDrJs0(2/2)
Bored grandparents are scary, and boredom eats away at the soul.
0031Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 18:05:50.18ID:3+GwgdB20(2/6)
Was this a post making fun of his wife’s appearance?
0035Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 18:08:11.25ID:3+GwgdB20(3/6)
Is it okay for Hanshin to heckle? That was pretty bad though lol.
0041Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 18:10:48.19ID:HAv6ILoD0(2/2)
>>35
If you post it online, you’re pretty much out. Nohmi-san said she could put up with it because she was a paying customer.
If you post it online, you’re pretty much out. Nohmi-san said she could put up with it because she was a paying customer.
0036Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 18:08:48.87ID:pXZlQ4jc0
I think of athletes as having the mentality of tofu.
0040Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 18:09:53.54ID:REjlXMyI0
It’s like being stopped for a traffic violation and then claiming that there’s a car speeding past you right next to you.
0043Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 18:11:13.58ID:P4niWUs30
It’s not my fault lol.
0045Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 18:12:00.71ID:kdIVonxB0
The true nature of the abnormal way lawyers and relevant institutions are responding to slander these days is to start with athletes and celebrities, and eventually extend to cracking down on even minor criticism of politicians.
0052Anonymous @I’m sorry.Sep. 1, 2024 (Sun) 18:14:38.52ID:8+sCxa2S0
I don’t know what was written, but suppressing freedom of speech is not good.
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