The era of politics-free investing in China is coming to an end as Japan Inc.’s enthusiasm for investing in China cools.

Politics
0001Aroma roasted ★.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 09:40:07.59ID:5KVWkIbP9
Japanese companies are abandoning an approach to business in China that was once seen as apolitical. This marks a major shift from its time as the largest investor in China. (Read more below)
Bloomberg
September 9, 2024 12:20 JST.

「日本株式会社」の中国投資熱冷める-政治と無縁の時代終焉
日本企業は、かつて政治とは無縁と見られていた中国ビジネスへのアプローチを放棄するようになっている。中国への最大の投資家だった時代からの大きな転換となる。
0014Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 09:52:09.16ID:Wz+SoekL0
>>1
Japan’s economic level has simply reversed with China’s, and the country has become the recipient of investment.
0046Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 10:34:48.49ID:2+4iQTIa0
>>1
Investing in a country where everything can be confiscated at the command of the authorities lol.
0061Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 11:01:47.68ID:BymypFGj0
>>1

While the scale is small, they are happy to turn a blind eye to some of the drawbacks.
As the scale grows, the drawbacks become impossible to ignore and it becomes a target for regulation.
Investors feel like they have had their backs turned.
This is something that happens at any time and place, not just in China.
These risks have become apparent for both Japan and China.
You can overcome it, or you can withdraw, it doesn’t matter.

0084Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 11:29:13.49ID:B8Rcviil0(1/3)
>>1
No, it’s not over.
It’s just that the real estate bubble has burst and things aren’t going well.
A shrinking of the global economy is inevitable.
Now just happens to be the time when that happens.
0002Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 09:41:41.63ID:hhUEahF/0
Well, of course you would avoid associating with him since he was arrested so easily without even knowing why.
0053Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 10:42:32.64ID:XfbsP/F30
>>2
I don’t want to travel.
0003Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 09:42:09.92ID:qj8KDbq60
It’s not a political issue,
it’s just that Japan doesn’t have the money to invest.
0004Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 09:43:43.27ID:4YR3Z+u60
It’s nothing. It’s just something the financial world and the media have been hyping up. If it turns out that the risks outweigh the benefits, it’s only natural to stop.
0005Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 09:44:59.13ID:cfhwYXIp0(1/3)
I think they realized that investing in China isn’t profitable.
0050Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 10:37:51.70ID:Q42auXua0
>>5
Now lol.
0006Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 09:45:31.68ID:s58CBmo+0
They’ll partner up and have everything copied and sold cheaply.
0007Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 09:45:36.75ID:Wb5mtd6u0
A huge, aggressive nation was born because of the Liberal Democratic Party, which continued to provide financial support to those who invested in China, fuelled by the Nikkei.
0008Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 09:45:44.36ID:TYInKeyr0
Sudden arrests, control riots, and lots of risk.
0009Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 09:50:51.44ID:Bjnv/Xa10
There have been political risks in the past.
0010Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 09:50:56.14ID:8ksK+N8a0
You’ll be seen as a spy.
0012Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 09:51:29.65ID:h4C1Cmys0
I bet they’ll find fault with him, detain him, and then offer to let him go if he reveals company secrets.
0013Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 09:52:01.71ID:mtKXhISk0
The anti-espionage law is a shitty law that can be easily managed, and the technical know-how should be handed over to China. No one will stay. On top of that, labor costs are rising and people are leaving. It’s just a trash can.
0019Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 09:54:39.78ID:4F9iPSmO0
>>13
Since Japan is no longer nearby,
it would be better for humanity if we gave useful technology to China.
0016Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 09:53:13.36ID:SgdaWKsI0
In the case of automobiles, local expansion was only permitted as a joint venture with a local automobile company. Even if they built a development center and trained local employees, they were sent back to the parent company from where they had been trained, and all their know-how was absorbed, so this should have been predictable. It would have been better to withdraw quickly while they were still in the black with NPV.
0017Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 09:53:15.58ID:AXKG1W7/0
With the economy in a bad state and visa restrictions, it’s a total disaster.
0018Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 09:53:52.21ID:cfhwYXIp0(2/3)
I thought maybe they were a little late in realizing this, but maybe it’s because the powerful pro-China politicians are gone and the guidance from them is gone too.
0107Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 11:51:15.71ID:kJm97tyA0
>>19
After the plagiarism, it’s robbery.
0020Security Guard [lv.10] [Sprout].Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 09:55:03.53ID:6q/vDL/n0
Even though they were targeted in anti-Japanese riots, they didn’t retreat, but now China is less profitable.
0026Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 10:03:08.32ID:4ZURQf5S0
>>20
Withdrawing because they lost the competition
Japan is no longer needed.
0021Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 09:57:33.64ID:edhKHZcB0
War is near…
0022Security guard [lv.17].Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 09:58:11.21ID:zBJK5poE0
They’ll steal your technology and repay your kindness with evil lol.
0023Security Guard [lv.4] [Sprout].Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 10:00:34.70ID:Kt7teg0I0
>>22
Are you talking about Sabae?
0024Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 10:01:14.34ID:R+iwlTrQ0(1/2)
Japan’s international competitiveness is on the decline. It’s just that we can no longer make competitive products.
0025Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 10:02:38.38ID:YRg39F9y0
It’s too late lol It’s too late to retreat after everything has been stolen.
0028Security Guard [lv.4] [Sprout].Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 10:10:10.51ID:9jvJDi500
What a joke to say China has nothing to do with politics.
0029Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 10:13:01.35ID:MiegpTVk0
The Chinese Communist Party politicizes everything.
0030Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 10:15:03.95ID:TTUcXdI80
Investing in a deflationary country is just a punishment game.
0031Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 10:19:20.52ID:s5rC0cUE0
Japan has always had a trade deficit with China. They intended to enter the Chinese market, but Japan ended up becoming their market.
0032Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 10:21:06.36ID:1SG11y4H0
The investment bubble has just taken a breather. Japan has been losing and destroying for 30 years, but they’re still managing to get by.
0033Security Guard [lv.11] [Sprout].Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 10:21:12.77ID:GxVRKXAe0(1/2)
China’s economic growth is due to foreign investment and a real estate bubble, so in short, it’s empty inside.
0057Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 10:47:42.89ID:R+iwlTrQ0(2/2)
>>33
China is number one in the world in both the quality and quantity of scientific and technical papers. It also has the largest number of items with the world’s largest share. China is supported by the world’s best scientific and technological capabilities. The fall in real estate prices will actually give the Chinese people more spare capacity, further strengthening the Chinese economy. Europe is an empty shell with no industry, but they pretend to be developed countries.
0067Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 11:09:51.31ID:uVvgNRk30(1/8)
>>33
Moreover, the real estate problem, such as the collapse of local financing platforms and mega-developers, will continue to decay the longer it is left unchecked, and will become a caries-like condition that will not be resolved unless the source of the problem is removed.
0034Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 10:21:44.30ID:ZUI+P8nQ0(1/2)
The mass media doesn’t report on China’s problems, so it’s inevitable that awareness will be delayed.
0035Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 10:24:55.61ID:SMHiyRDa0
A scumbag company that invested in an enemy country.
0036Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 10:25:16.10ID:oRwq84XN0(1/3)
Oh no! They’ve already grown up. A monster.
0038Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 10:26:09.60ID:ZUI+P8nQ0(2/2)
>>36
It just seems like it got rotten too early lol.
0044Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 10:30:25.32ID:oRwq84XN0(2/3)
>>38
It’s inevitable that it will rot, but if there’s nowhere else to go, where will it go? You can imagine, there have already been stabbing incidents. Do you really think you can deal with a country that is several dozen times stronger than you? Look at South Korea lol, and it’s a neighboring country.
0039Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 10:26:28.15ID:djQB2p5H0
Even before Chinese politics, China is currently in a deflationary recession due to the collapse of its bubble. No wonder people aren’t investing.
0040Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 10:26:50.85ID:cfhwYXIp0(3/3)
I’m worried that Japanese companies will change their mindset and say, “We’ll stop investing in China, but we’ll let Chinese people come and work in Japan.”
0041Security Guard [lv.11] [Sprout].Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 10:27:28.07ID:GxVRKXAe0(2/2)
It’s funny because the bubble burst before they were able to make high-value-added products in their own country. And they’re investing in real estate in Japan again lol. When the prices get too high for Japanese people to buy, the Chinese will just play Old Maid again lol.
0042Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 10:27:50.41ID:FFf3P9Cz0
They’ve thoroughly studied the collapse of the Japanese bubble, so it’s certain they won’t follow the same path as Japan.
0043Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 10:29:21.63ID:U5XW/1p60
Panasonic “will move headquarters to China”
That was a close call…
0049Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 10, 2024 (Tue) 10:37:45.77ID:20uxDQIE0
The responsibility for having invested so much in China is heavy.
Reference: https://asahi.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1725928807

Other languages: 「日本株式会社」の中国投資熱冷める政治と無縁の時代終焉, La era de las “corporaciones japonesas” ajenas a la política se está enfriando en lo que respecta a las inversiones en China.

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