Is the stock price “Ishiba shock” a backlash to the “high market expectations”? Some say that “the evaluation of being anti-Abenomics is not bad.”

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0001Flea market ★.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:25:07.40ID:v0XZzD+29
On September 30th, the first trading day since Shigeru Ishiba was elected as the new president of the Liberal Democratic Party, the Tokyo Stock Exchange plummeted, dropping by more than 2,000 yen at one point. The decline is said to be due to a backlash from the previous week’s rise in stock prices and Ishihara’s positive stance on strengthening taxation on financial income, but many in the stock market are of the view that “the impact will be limited” (economist). ◆ Financial income tax “strengthening” stance
The closing price was 1,910.01 yen lower than the previous weekend at 37,919.55 yen. Last week in the stock market, the view that Sanae Takaichi, who has advocated monetary easing and increased fiscal spending, was in the lead in the LDP presidential election spread, leading to a weakening of the yen and rising stock prices. Regarding the stock market decline on the 30th, which some called the “Ishiba shock,” Toru Suehiro of Daiwa Securities explained that “this has been reversed.” Nomura Research Institute’s Takahide Kiuchi also predicts that the sharp decline will be temporary. While Takaichi has called for the revival of the Abe administration’s economic policy, “Abenomics,” Ishihara has emphasized the need to correct inequality and has advocated policies that would be a headwind for stock prices. Regarding strengthening taxation on financial income, he said in early September, “I would like to see this realized.” However, after being criticized by other LDP presidential candidates, Ishihara also responded, “I would like to further accelerate small-scale investments such as the NISA (tax-free small investment system).” Regarding strengthening taxation on financial income, Prime Minister Kishida Fumio proposed this during the 2021 LDP presidential election, but was unable to implement it due to the sudden fall in stock prices. Can a growth strategy be put forward under the strong yen? Ishiba also made other remarks that could be perceived as negative for the stock market. Regarding corporate taxes and income taxes for the wealthy, he has hinted at tax increases, saying, “Those who are able to bear the burden would like to pay more.” Suehiro believes that the stock market and public opinion are not equal, and that “Ishihara, who is anti-Abenomics, is not badly evaluated.” It is expected that the trend of a strong yen will become established in the future, creating an environment in which real wages are more likely to rise. “What’s important is whether they can come up with a long-term growth strategy (in the meantime),” he points out. (Kiyomi Ishii, Izumi Hakusan)
Tokyo Shimbun, October 1, 2024, 6:00 a.m.

株価「石破ショック」は「高市期待相場」の反動? 「反アベノミクスの評価は悪くない」との見方も:東京新聞 TOKYO Web
自民党の新総裁に石破茂氏が当選して初の取引となった9月30日の東京株式市場は急落し、下げ幅は一時2000円を超えた。前週に株高が進んだ...
0004Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:27:22.12ID:rzYO23Pz0
>>1
>Many economists believe that the impact on the stock market will be limited. The stock prices of Sash Maker and Wanwan-o’s lives plummet.
0005Security guard [lv.6].Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:27:36.61ID:YVOZYa2c0
>>1
How many people are subject to inheritance tax?
9.6% of the deceased were subject to inheritance tax. The number of deaths in 2022 (Reiwa 4) was 1,569,050,
and 9.6% of them, or 150,858 people, were subject to inheritance tax. In other words, the number of deceased persons who were actually taxed was approximately 1 in 10.
0021Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:34:13.32ID:CQolIMOG0(1/5)
>>1
>Tokyo Shimbun October 1, 2024 06:00
Yes, yes.
0037Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:39:07.34ID:hsSKH3R40
>>1
The Crazy Newspaper desperately defends Ishiba Sageru lol
Ishiba is totally in the wrong. By the way, an economist who was invited by Ishiba to give a lecture wrote an article saying, “Ishiba isn’t so bad,” but are the mass media all stepping up to protect Ishiba, who has been completely rejected by the financial markets? From somewhere across the ocean.
0053Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:42:15.61ID:va3rqFLP0
>>1
“The drop temporarily exceeded 2,000 yen. “
Normally I would write that it was over minus 2,000 yen. I thought it was written by an idiot who was trying to mislead people, but it turns out it was the Tokyo Shimbun lol.
0103Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:51:44.58ID:jBIVN0Bn0
>>1
The Tokyo Shimbun desperately defends itself. I bet they did the same thing when the Democratic Party was in power.
0003Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:26:50.23ID:KtAZaUEQ0
The amount that increased on Thursday and Friday was simply returned.
0026Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:36:02.64ID:89/4Mwmg0(2/3)
>>3
So true.
0006Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:27:53.61ID:OLJoiVgs0(1/4)
Is the Tokyo Shimbun trying to make excuses?
0007Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:28:02.86ID:WJ0gYMHv0(1/2)
Stock prices have nothing to do with the economy.
0008Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:29:24.31ID:DWL5UoJj0
TV Tokyo and TV Asahi did specials on the Ishiba shock
NHK didn’t use the term Ishiba shock.
0009Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:29:56.07ID:bCOhgONM0
US stocks seem to have peaked.
0010Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:30:21.09ID:QgYbRJFw0
The only 8 prefectures in Japan where the minimum wage exceeds 1050 yen per hour are Tokyo, Kanagawa, Chiba, Saitama, Osaka, Hyogo, Kyoto, and Aichi. Even in Tokyo, where the minimum wage is the highest, it is a low 1163 yen per hour. Compared to other developed countries, wages in Japan are far too low.
0011Security Guard [lv.3] [bud].Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:31:22.16ID:4XyLx6Gi0
The world has gone awry since 1998.
0022Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:34:27.19ID:bgVTLvHV0
>>11
That was when Komeito became the ruling party.
0024Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:35:34.76ID:rB9EP1c30
>>11
No. It started around the time of the previous Socialist Party administration. 1998 was the year things went absolutely wrong.
0012Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:31:45.86ID:qcq0XgTL0(1/21)
It’s not an Ishiba shock, it’s a Takaichi shock. The people were just hoping that Takaichi might become prime minister.
0020Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:33:52.31ID:fLqqoQ0T0
>>12
That’s it.
Takaichi, who clearly stated his opposition to interest rate hikes, would have been able to continue the yen carry trade for a while, which would have led to a weaker yen and higher stock prices.
0014Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:32:26.24ID:1ZfscDxq0(1/7)
Abenomics is fiscal financing, but it is like forcing a balloon to inflate.
0015Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:32:42.71ID:Yb6E2fIX0
It just went down from up to down. It’s a normal Monday, so why is this a shock for Ishihara?
0016Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:32:52.81ID:uprbPKId0(1/6)
I think it was the market that caused this. Gel, seriously?
0017Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:32:57.42ID:mMsP04Ar0(1/4)
The real Ishiba shock is yet to come. No plan in place until the election, and things will only get worse after the election.
0018Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:33:04.22ID:N6MiiFs/0(1/6)
To begin with, I don’t think the economy will improve under the Ishiba Cabinet.
0019Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:33:28.13ID:exsZ4HKs0(1/2)
Takaichi is shocked because he said raising interest rates is stupid lol.
0023Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:34:36.47ID:cFpKe0Zz0
It’s stopped falling already lol.
0025Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:35:45.81ID:89/4Mwmg0(1/3)
It’s already in the 143 yen range.
0046Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:40:44.37ID:LFUDksbI0
>>25
The US policy interest rate is still at 5%
If it goes back to normal at 0.25%, it will go back to 105 yen.
0027Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:36:24.81ID:5ANakfdK0
It would have ended with the interest rate hike and the market crash.
0028Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:36:40.90ID:GECCStoZ0(1/5)
Japanese stocks are basically linked to American stocks, so the only people making a fuss were idiots.
0052Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:42:12.01ID:Jt8yrsyx0(3/12)
>>28
Yesterday, the Tokyo market crashed and the Shanghai index surged. Money fled to China because people are worried about the Ishiba administration.
0029Security Guard [lv.9] [Sprout].Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:36:46.54ID:/py3et0l0
All that happened was that the right-wing biz money who were hoping to revive Abenomics under Takaichi fled.
0038Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:39:11.46ID:Jt8yrsyx0(2/12)
>>29
Huh? In the opinion of the lefties, aren’t the true identity of the netouyo a group of poor NEETs?
People who have enough money to invest large sums?
0033Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:37:40.32ID:ku832gnJ0
If it wasn’t bad it wouldn’t have crashed. The market is honest.
0034Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:38:03.02ID:kbZchHAt0
Japan is not growing \(^o^)/
The strong yen and deflation are for the common people
Stocks have nothing to do with the common people
There are idiots who say this with the same mouth.
0048Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:41:36.17ID:CQolIMOG0(2/5)
>>34
Those kind of “common people” are retired old people who live off their savings and pensions.
And among the old people, they’re the ones who have no interest in employing young people. If the yen appreciates during deflation, the value of one’s savings and pension will increase.
0035Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:38:09.06ID:HvRX6hr40
Gelnomics.
0040Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:39:34.86ID:4Z16vkue0(1/5)
The LDP falls from power due to a flat-rate tax increase on financial income. Goodbye to vested interests.
0042Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:40:06.57ID:CFw25GbE0
Tokyo Shimbun lol.
0043Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:40:09.25ID:jK/ZtUjJ0
If the market had crashed under Takaichi, the insults would have been a hundred times more severe.
0044Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:40:30.62ID:3HUin6cI0(1/2)
NISA 30 million yen, anything above that will be subject to progressive taxation.
0047Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:41:22.69ID:2yBQhg4+0
Well, I guess I put it too high.
0050Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:41:53.40ID:uprbPKId0(2/6)
He said that gel-type politicians might work well when Japan was on an upward trend, but now that Japan’s GDP per capita is falling, they are not appropriate.
0060Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:43:46.25ID:Jt8yrsyx0(4/12)
>>50
Ishiba’s economic policies are absurd, so it’s impossible to implement them at any time.
0064Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 1, 2024 (Tue) 07:45:43.21ID:4cSJwFqx0(2/6)
What people are expecting from Ishihara is to purge the lawmakers who are united in their secret funds.
Reference: https://asahi.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1727735107

Other languages: 株価「石破ショック」は「高市期待相場」の反動?「反アベノミクスの評価は悪くない」との見方も, ¿Es el “shock de Ishiba” del precio de las acciones una reacción a las “altas expectativas del mercado”? Algunos dicen que “la evaluación anti-Abenomics no es mala”.

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