FY2025 budget requests defense spending in the 8 trillion yen range for the first time, the largest ever...includes costs for acquiring attack drones.

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0001Defendant on the sidelines ★.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:25:40.01ID:R3FoNLtt9
The Ministry of Defense has decided to include in its fiscal 2025 budget request, which will be compiled at the end of August, the largest defense budget ever, exceeding 8 trillion yen for the first time. In order to strengthen island defense, the government has budgeted funds for the acquisition of attack unmanned aerial vehicles (drones) capable of eliminating invading enemies, and is making arrangements to fully introduce them into the Self-Defense Forces. Multiple sources revealed this on the 16th. In order to drastically strengthen its defense capabilities, the government plans to spend a total of approximately 43 trillion yen over the five years from fiscal 2023 to 2027. The request for 8 trillion yen for fiscal 2013 is in line with this, and would represent a rapid increase following the increase from approximately 5.4 trillion yen at the beginning of fiscal 2022 to approximately 6.8 trillion yen in fiscal 2023 and over 7.9 trillion yen in fiscal 2024. However, it was discovered that a large amount of money was left unspent in fiscal 2011, and the decision on the start date of the tax increase that will cover part of the funds has been postponed. The appropriateness of the increase is likely to be debated. Regarding drones, the government is promoting their use as “unmanned asset defense capability,” one of the seven pillars of strengthening defense capabilities. Because it can reduce human casualties in combat, it is positioned as a “game changer” that will completely transform the face of modern warfare, and there are also plans to deploy it at sea and on land. Kyodo News, August 17, 2024, 6:06 a.m.

防衛費初の8兆円台要求へ 25年度予算、過去最大
防衛省は8月末にまとめる2025年度予算概算要求に、初めて8兆円台に乗る過去最大の防衛費を計上する方針を固めた。島しょ防衛を強化するため、侵攻してきた敵を排除する攻撃型無人機(ドローン)の取得費を計 ...
0032Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:44:08.49ID:kxKpIaTq0
>>1
Considering the flight distance of drones, it’s unclear whether they can be used for island defense. If we extend the drone’s flight distance, it will become too expensive to be disposable. Support systems such as unmanned underwater drone carriers will also be necessary to carry the drones to effective range.
0085Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 07:05:33.92ID:4J7TFSIt0
>>1
Who will operate it?
Even if we just have a drone.
0104Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 07:20:03.18ID:I8UYMIn40
>>1 I agree with increasing defense spending, but first we need to make sure that each of them is in ruins. Start by renovating and maintaining the defense base. How long do you intend to use it in this dilapidated state?
0003Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:28:18.74ID:mXogPoG00
Well, if you think of it as a replacement for human life, it’s a necessary expense.
0004Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:28:42.47ID:m1fhxYgy0
Who will you attack with a drone that has a short range?
0058Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:55:43.77ID:Pj61HjLS0
>>4
The mq-9 is an attack drone with a long range.
0109Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 07:25:36.40ID:DUnABhRw0
>>4
They’ll chase and kill the damn Koreans and Chinese who land there, like the Russians in Ukraine.
0005Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:30:02.43ID:PADNSXpv0
Finally drones?
It feels like it’s too late to realize the importance of drones now.
Is that also because of Abe, who was afraid of drones and banned them?
Even though he was so afraid, he was assassinated.
0008Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:31:48.06ID:rajU2Fsh0
japanese kamikaze.
0009Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:31:55.73ID:kOwLKPh10
They lie about not being able to buy toilet paper, they create secret funds, they have budget surpluses, the defense budget is full of fraud.
0010Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:32:11.04ID:9Yxd/RuW0
Instead of buying unnecessarily expensive weapons from the US, why don’t you treat the Self-Defense Forces better?
0011Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:33:49.49ID:7gTW9l9N0
Will they be able to catch up with Chinese drone technology?
0012Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:34:46.73ID:bQeQUt1t0
If they’re aiming for conscription they’ll have to provide government housing and equipment, so they should demand around 10 trillion.
0013Security guard [lv.7].Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:34:50.45ID:g4aRd8zC0
What I learned from this experience is that drones are useful because they are cheap, but they would be useless if they were high-performance and expensive.
0027Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:42:16.88ID:nzHQJPR80(1/2)
>>13
Expensive American drones are apparently very unpopular
Expensive and fragile
Ukraine is building its own drones using 3D printers.
0014Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:36:26.77ID:lxCP54Vx0
Battles are all about numbers, bro.
0015Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:37:04.14ID:6FhEu+SG0
Similarly, please prepare something to shoot down the drones the Chinese send at the base.
0016Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:37:12.49ID:jyNsx/xJ0
First, raise the salaries of your soldiers.
0017Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:37:28.63ID:l6EfU4JY0
How to deal with China’s 10,000 drones?
0018Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:37:51.03ID:TPlNL3QQ0(1/4)
What Japan needs is an armed UCAV like the Bayraktar TB2. Baikal is already testing a subsonic version equipped with a jet engine.
0019Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:38:00.63ID:qiMq2FmC0
This is the road I’ve been on before.
0021Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:38:42.11ID:TQ2KsfPO0
American made is too expensive so let’s get Chinese made.
0022Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:39:44.60ID:tougRdVu0
Isn’t Korea’s around 10 trillion yen?
It seems like they’re desperately trying to catch up,
but they don’t need to catch up anymore.
0023Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:39:54.24ID:op9vW9z20(1/2)
That’s good.
0024Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:40:22.90ID:lXchKVF/0(1/2)
We also need to introduce jammers.
0025Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:41:47.25ID:7GAAtXA30
In a country like Japan where defense is the main focus, jammers take priority.
0026Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:41:55.65ID:YHVxXEp40
This tax increase will only accelerate the declining birthrate.
0028Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:42:22.32ID:WQia0AXM0
We need to focus on defense to protect lawmakers and their associates from low-income Japanese people.
0029Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:43:00.75ID:TPlNL3QQ0(2/4)
In terms of defense, now that the Gepard is being reevaluated, the Type 87 should be revived.
0030Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:43:13.70ID:CQ7A77120
Kishida’s inheritance is not a debt, no matter how much tax we pay it’s never enough.
0031Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:43:44.64ID:op9vW9z20(2/2)
Well, if inflation is occurring, that’s normal.
0033Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:44:26.17ID:bTfmUqiJ0
It’s still not enough.
0034Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:45:31.56ID:zXhuoxnl0(1/3)
No matter how much you work and pay a lot of taxes,
you won’t be able to live a good life lol
The world is full of tax beggars lol.
0036Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:47:56.27ID:zXhuoxnl0(2/3)
If you work and pay taxes you lose big time. If you consume and pay taxes you lose big time. We’re a beggarly nation where only medical and defense workers benefit lol.
0039Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:48:33.37ID:VXLMkuLU0
If the economy grows, defense spending will increase automatically, but it’s a percentage of GDP, so the LDP doesn’t seem interested in growing the economy.
0044Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:49:29.31ID:RzndeBnk0(2/5)
>>39
It was North Korea that raised military spending
Japanese people really love North Korea.
0040Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:48:52.35ID:RzndeBnk0(1/5)
Are you ready for a tax increase?
You guys who helped the LDP win should work like hell and pay your taxes.
0041Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:48:53.22ID:jUN7MIap0(1/2)
Looking at Ukraine, we need drones.
0042Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:49:19.30ID:6PGrBTN40(1/2)
Check out China’s Ali Express. You can buy a drone with a camera for 600 yen lol. Just hurry up and get nuclear weapons. Ukraine’s uprising is a shitty coincidence lol.
0047Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:50:37.13ID:YkwdDkbb0
Develop the defense industry and fill the gap with exports.
0050Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:51:46.36ID:t19GA7x70
I want this and that, it’s endless.
0055Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:54:43.29ID:961pY72n0
Wouldn’t missiles be better for island nations?
0057Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 17, 2024 (Sat) 06:54:46.01ID:CDxvyKx60(2/2)
I wonder if it’s right to rely on imported weapons when the yen is so weak.
Reference: https://asahi.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1723843540

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