0001Mr.Shoko★.Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 15:58:26.00ID:t+sz8QaH9
Regarding the “minimum wage increase to 1,500 yen,” Keidanren Chairman Tokura says, “Unattainable targets will only invite confusion” (NTV News NNN) – Yahoo!News
10/22 (Tue) 15:51
Regarding the increase in the minimum wage to 1,500 yen, which many political parties have pledged to do in the House of Representatives election, Keidanren Chairman Tokura has sounded the alarm, saying, “A completely unattainable target will only invite confusion.” Chairman Tokura stated that the minimum wage is a law, and once it is set, failure to abide by it will result in punishment. He went on to say that while it is fine for the target amount to be challenging, it is not appropriate for it to be a goal that is too difficult to achieve, and that it should be decided through thorough discussion between government, labor and management. The heads of two other economic organizations have also voiced their opinions regarding raising the minimum wage. (Omitted)
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10/22 (Tue) 15:51
Regarding the increase in the minimum wage to 1,500 yen, which many political parties have pledged to do in the House of Representatives election, Keidanren Chairman Tokura has sounded the alarm, saying, “A completely unattainable target will only invite confusion.” Chairman Tokura stated that the minimum wage is a law, and once it is set, failure to abide by it will result in punishment. He went on to say that while it is fine for the target amount to be challenging, it is not appropriate for it to be a goal that is too difficult to achieve, and that it should be decided through thorough discussion between government, labor and management. The heads of two other economic organizations have also voiced their opinions regarding raising the minimum wage. (Omitted)
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“最低賃金1500円引き上げ”めぐり 経団連十倉会長「達成不可能な目標は混乱招くだけ」(日テレNEWS NNN) - Yahoo!ニュース
衆議院選挙で多くの政党が公約にしている最低賃金を1500円に引き上げることについて、経団連の十倉会長は「とうてい達成不可能な目標は混乱を招くだけ」と警鐘を鳴らしました。 十倉会長は、最低賃金は法律
0010Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:00:40.95ID:510/Nzds0
>>1
The reason real wages in Japan aren’t rising is because Japan is in deflation. And the reason Japan is in deflation is because more people are becoming dependent on social security (taxes) for their livelihood. Even if money is distributed to people who rely on social security, such as pensioners and those on welfare, and whose incomes do not increase through economic activity, they will try to maximize the effect of that money by purchasing cheaper products. Trading companies trying to meet that demand then import cheaper substitutes from third countries,
filling the Japanese market with cheaper goods. Manufacturing industries that cater to domestic demand respond to deflation by reducing employee wages in order to combat rising import prices of raw materials. For Japan to overcome deflation and raise real wages, it has no choice but to either use exports and inbound tourism to absorb overseas inflation into the country or cut social security spending. The ones who are leading Japan into decline are the Democratic Party, which destroyed the export industry with its policy of an extremely strong yen, and those who are broadly interpreting Article 25 of the Constitution and making social security a sanctuary. id:t+sz8qah9.
The reason real wages in Japan aren’t rising is because Japan is in deflation. And the reason Japan is in deflation is because more people are becoming dependent on social security (taxes) for their livelihood. Even if money is distributed to people who rely on social security, such as pensioners and those on welfare, and whose incomes do not increase through economic activity, they will try to maximize the effect of that money by purchasing cheaper products. Trading companies trying to meet that demand then import cheaper substitutes from third countries,
filling the Japanese market with cheaper goods. Manufacturing industries that cater to domestic demand respond to deflation by reducing employee wages in order to combat rising import prices of raw materials. For Japan to overcome deflation and raise real wages, it has no choice but to either use exports and inbound tourism to absorb overseas inflation into the country or cut social security spending. The ones who are leading Japan into decline are the Democratic Party, which destroyed the export industry with its policy of an extremely strong yen, and those who are broadly interpreting Article 25 of the Constitution and making social security a sanctuary. id:t+sz8qah9.
0060Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:11:15.25ID:SnlTiLmW0
>>1
That’s right.
Japan has too many business models that use a lot of low-wage slaves, so it’s very difficult to raise them.
Well, if we leave the regions alone and raise the hourly wage only in the Tokyo and Kinki regions,
the weighted average would be 1,500 yen.
But when calculating the average minimum wage,
I wish they’d stop cheating with the weighted average.
It would be fine if they only raised the minimum wage in the regions and achieved the target, but
they’re only raising the minimum wage a little in the more populous areas and achieving the target.
That’s right.
Japan has too many business models that use a lot of low-wage slaves, so it’s very difficult to raise them.
Well, if we leave the regions alone and raise the hourly wage only in the Tokyo and Kinki regions,
the weighted average would be 1,500 yen.
But when calculating the average minimum wage,
I wish they’d stop cheating with the weighted average.
It would be fine if they only raised the minimum wage in the regions and achieved the target, but
they’re only raising the minimum wage a little in the more populous areas and achieving the target.
0002Security Guard [lv.25] [Seedling].Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 15:59:26.11ID:EfS2x3S90
The LDP is a cancer in Japan. It’s been 30 years, or maybe 40 years, of the LDP listening to what Keidanren has to say.
0005Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 15:59:58.44ID:zttvI8OX0
That’s true
It’ll only cause confusion
It’s just idiots trying too hard lol
It’s impossible in reality, especially in rural areas, it will be devastating
It might be fine if prices were double what they are now, though.
It’ll only cause confusion
It’s just idiots trying too hard lol
It’s impossible in reality, especially in rural areas, it will be devastating
It might be fine if prices were double what they are now, though.
0008Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:00:37.18ID:gAxBg5Rn0(1/2)
They’re making money, right?
0009Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:00:37.33ID:yQO7bLMT0(1/3)
Apparently there are opposition parties that are trying to make the yen 1,500 yen through deflationary policies.
0011Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:00:42.17ID:jV7rRyo40
This guy is really old hag.
0012Security Guard [lv.5] [Sprout].Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:00:56.27ID:zEUYu0Ut0
How many years have they been saying that? Why doesn’t Keidanren make an effort?
They will simply ask of companies what they have asked of workers up until now.
They will simply ask of companies what they have asked of workers up until now.
0013Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:01:00.65ID:jEYPVbrQ0
??? “It becomes impossible if you give up midway.”
0014Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:01:53.09ID:0bEFS7DN0(1/8)
Ruthless total denial. Japan is finished lol.
0016Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:02:00.97ID:gAxBg5Rn0(2/2)
It’s ridiculous inflation, but we’re not raising wages.
0018Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:02:35.62ID:LDLsucOe0(1/6)
Netuyos were saying the same thing about Korea, but Japan is in a miserable state because it keeps things as they are lol.
0019Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:03:14.54ID:mN8G07sa0
Don’t be so spoiled.
0021Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:03:41.80ID:9Wl5KTcZ0(1/2)
This is possible if you prohibit cutting out the middle part.
0024Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:04:31.00ID:nZ0fvsG40(2/2)
What’s needed is someone who says, “Enough already! I’ll do it!”
0026Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:05:02.43ID:OQWIvokX0
If you don’t want to raise wages then just raise corporate taxes.
0027Security Guard [lv.8] [Sprout].Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:05:22.90ID:w/2wtb0F0
1,500 yen an hour is too expensive for an incompetent, poor, bored, old, useless leftist.
0028Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:05:24.10ID:iANtMjbW0
The Liberal Democratic Party can’t even do math.
0030Security Guard [lv.1] [Sprout].Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:05:41.83ID:FzZiEuEz0(1/3)
Even 1500 yen doesn’t attract many people anymore. It’s not a goal, it just happens naturally.
0031Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:05:42.37ID:P4Y7Ni+H0
What has the insane Abenomics stock price supremacy, which didn’t care what happened as long as stock prices rose, ultimately brought to Japan?
0036Security Guard [lv.4] [Sprout].Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:06:53.27ID:0v0PftDE0(4/16)
>>31
Stock prices have nothing to do with the economy.
Stock prices have nothing to do with the economy.
0033Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:06:06.29ID:BNQZtzXa0(2/13)
For now, I think it would be good to try making it 1500 yen just for Tokyo. If it’s really tough, maybe the work will be moved to other areas where labor costs are lower.
0035Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:06:21.51ID:CFJ+0BRB0(1/2)
Companies that can’t keep up with wage increases are companies that society doesn’t need. Expose the worthless, incompetent managers.
0054Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:09:43.91ID:c2TtQzFE0
>>35
Exactly.
Additionally, incompetent workers who can’t even do work worth 1500 yen an hour should be fired.
Exactly.
Additionally, incompetent workers who can’t even do work worth 1500 yen an hour should be fired.
0037Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:07:03.93ID:0bEFS7DN0(2/8)
Japanese companies simply don’t have the financial strength to keep the country’s economy going.
0038Security Guard [lv.1] [Sprout].Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:07:06.02ID:BN/OsX7R0
If we cut your wages just a little, we could raise the wages of a lot of other workers. Although, most small businesses would go out of business.
0040Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:07:38.16ID:Za34YkMU0
If the minimum wage is raised, labor costs will increase further and prices will rise, and people working in jobs where wages cannot be raised will die.
0042Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:07:50.95ID:VWhuCtLT0
We can raise the annual salary threshold. If you’re going to make statements like this, you incompetent Keidanren should also come up with a plan to solve the labor shortage.
0044Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:08:22.77ID:0LR/9sJN0
That’s why I’m saying the government should cut taxes first to increase disposable income and bring corporate tax back to what it was before.
0046Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:08:43.03ID:ilxDiMZQ0(1/4)
This is happening because you guys in the business world don’t give anything back to the Japanese people.
0047Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:08:47.87ID:1fmif1pD0(1/4)
Keidanren is the worst kind of organization, a disgrace to Japan, for abstaining from voting in a global initiative to eradicate power harassment.
0056Anonymous Donburako.Oct. 22, 2024 (Tue) 16:09:52.11ID:Yy/gk7a40
There are too many crappy temp agencies in Japan.
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