Sapporo’s Senior Pass Review Faces Backlash from Seniors, Concerns from Youth

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Sapporo’s Senior Citizen Pass review sparks senior backlash over changes, while younger residents voice concerns about financial burden.

1Killer whale ★.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 02:37:38.87ID:EcY0rKRt9
11/30 (Sat) 21:45 Asahi Shimbun Digital On November 30th, a meeting was held in the city to exchange opinions between Mayor Akimoto Katsuhiro and citizens regarding the review of the Sapporo City Senior Citizen Pass (senior citizen discount pass) system, which allows citizens aged 70 and over to use the subway, tram, and buses at a discount. This fall, the city decided to maintain the system for the time being, citing its financial situation and changes in population structure, but proposed revisions that would raise the eligibility age to 75 from fiscal 2026 and increase the self-pay portion of the system. The rally was attended by 169 people, with over 85% of them being over 60 years old at the time of application. “Are you in favor?” When one of the speakers asked a question, roughly three people raised their hands. Many of those in attendance were elderly people who were thought to be opposed to the system, and they repeatedly expressed opinions such as, “It will have a major impact on daily life and volunteer activities,” and “We want the current system to be maintained.” Mayor Akimoto, keeping in mind the increasing burden on the working generation, asked for understanding for the review, saying, “We would like to ask the elderly to also bear a certain share of the burden.” The overwhelming majority of the attendees were against the plan, but the city explained that after analyzing the opinions of 486 people collected in advance using an AI-based system, some of the opinions included “a review is necessary” and “the current system is unfair.” However, there were critical voices from the audience, such as “Don’t create a divide between generations.” At the application stage, only 0.8% of people in their 20s expressed a desire to participate in the rally. A 28-year-old man said he attended the event because he wanted people to know about the burden young people feel and the current situation, and expressed his support for the event, but was heckled. After the event ended, he said, “The atmosphere in the room was that of an away game.” Attorney Tetsuya Okawa, who participated as a commentator, pointed out that “when reforming a system that involves changes in rights, it is necessary to provide careful explanations to those who will be disadvantaged and to take measures to mitigate the sudden changes.” “I would like to ask (the city) to be flexible in its response and not have a predetermined conclusion,” he said. (Hara Chieko)
The Asahi Shimbun Company.

敬老パス見直し、高齢者から反発続出 若者からは「負担感」の訴えも(朝日新聞デジタル) - Yahoo!ニュース
70歳以上の市民が地下鉄・市電・バスを格安で利用できる札幌市の敬老パス(敬老優待乗車証)制度の見直しを巡り11月30日、市内で秋元克広市長と市民が意見交換をする集会があった。 市は今秋、財政状
3Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 02:40:53.80ID:+X3Rz/7H0
>>1
There’s no point in asking for opinions, since only people who disagree are here. Conduct a survey of the young people who will be shouldering the burden and then decide.
4Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 02:43:13.46ID:ueaxq0So0
This is sure to piss off the young generation. They’re already living a poor life while having to pay high pensions, so why should they have to pay for bus fares for their pension-receiving grandparents?
5Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 02:43:54.50ID:91leZ7oE0
Wouldn’t it be better to abolish it rather than revise it?
6Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 02:45:10.18ID:19czhjEy0
Make it available in exchange for a driver’s license

Only for those who pay full pension contributions
This is the bare minimum we should do.

7Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 02:45:45.76ID:Gx8rciHY0
If you don’t keep your old-man bashing to a minimum, you’ll end up with a hellish old age lol.
31Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 03:05:21.27ID:iCA+O+XO0
>>7
Even if you don’t wait until retirement, your parents will pester you if they don’t have money.
36Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 03:10:41.77ID:ms87SaWq0
>>7
Young people today are being hurt, and it’s impossible for them to have a happy retirement if the old folks are eating up all the tax money.
8Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 02:45:52.42ID:5ljvHffg0
It’s these old fools that are destroying Japan. I can understand being against it, but I wish these damn old fools who even heckle would leave this world immediately.
9Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 02:46:02.50ID:FhZ3uv4f0
But when I become old, I want comprehensive insurance 😭.
10Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 02:47:22.31ID:orn+GML90
If we’re looking at driver’s license surrenders as a reference, the Senior Citizen Pass would be for people aged 80 and up, but for ordinary elderly people it’s a matter of life and death.
11Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 02:48:12.08ID:mU0ZGjbp0
Hokkaido is a cold place for those with limited mobility. Outsiders don’t need public transportation, just bring your rental car. It’s not just a depopulated area, Yubari is already at this level. Sapporo is still blessed with the ability to pay.
12Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 02:48:46.22ID:V+v82j4+0
Since the population is decreasing, we should raise salaries for essential workers and collect taxes from the entertainment flu.
14Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 02:49:27.85ID:gaIq9LZm0
I feel like there might be some embezzlement of transportation expenses due to re-employment.
15Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 02:50:19.95ID:Ni77MV3e0
It’s a shame that they’re taking away the driver’s license from old people and making the Senior Citizen Pass worse.
17Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 02:51:08.70ID:Fc6zwNMe0
Why is it cheaper only for the elderly?
22Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 02:53:08.33ID:QCdQ+K8k0
>>17
Because politicians want the votes of the elderly, who number in large numbers.
23Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 02:54:28.08ID:Fc6zwNMe0
>>22
That’s seriously shit.
34Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 03:09:11.59ID:3bpj9diH0
>>23
If there weren’t preferential treatment for older people, the number of suicides in a country like this would increase.
24Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 02:56:00.45ID:orn+GML90
It’s hilarious that idiots who don’t even know the meaning of respect for the elderly are bashing the
42Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 03:24:32.12ID:DRqo/Uff0
>>24
It’s a misconception that just being old is enough to earn you respect.
Proper elderly people are normally respected.
It’s just wrong to give that name to a government service in the first place.
25Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 02:56:10.51ID:Ki+XYEdZ0
Don’t worry, by the time Zett and the others become old, they won’t have senior citizen passes or pensions anymore.
28Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 02:59:36.44ID:ukChHB0a0
Stubborn elderly people.
29Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 03:03:26.12ID:EcY0rKRt0
On the 29th, Sapporo City held an explanatory meeting at Asti 45 in Chuo Ward regarding proposed revisions to the Senior Citizen Pass system, which allows elderly people to travel on subways, buses, etc. at reduced rates. The city has proposed gradually lowering the upper limit on usage from the current 70,000 yen per year to 40,000 yen, citing the large financial burden, but there are voices of opposition from residents.
The plan is to reduce the monthly fee for unlimited use of public transport from around 5,800 yen to around 3,300 yen.

理解進むか 利用額上限引き下げで反対の声 敬老パス制度見直し案の説明会 市長との意見交換会も 札幌市(HTB北海道ニュース) - Yahoo!ニュース
札幌市が発表した敬老パスの見直し案について市民むけの説明会が開かれています。29日に札幌市が中央区のアスティ45で開催したのは、高齢者が地下鉄やバスなどを安く利用できる敬老パス制度の見直し案につ
30Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 03:03:47.54ID:iCA+O+XO0
What was the original price and how much of a discount is it?
32Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 03:07:12.25ID:RB9eYpmc0
What is a tram?
75Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 05:09:37.70ID:8KlExgGM0
>>32
These are streetcars that remain in rural areas.
I did some research and it seems that Sapporo, Hakodate, Kumamoto and Kagoshima are the only places that call them shiden.
They’re not called shiden, but streetcars remain in various places, and Tokyo has the Toden, and the convenience of streetcars as urban transportation is being reconsidered, so the fact that the lines remain would be extremely beneficial for autonomous driving.
97Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 06:20:45.22ID:GRzoQD4s0
>>32
It’s a streetcar.
It used to run in Kyoto too.
37Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 03:13:14.43ID:tgyGbEv10
In Osaka city, Toru Hashimoto called for a major review of the Senior Citizen Pass, which was opposed by the Communist and Constitutional Liberal Democratic Party, but the proposal passed due to strong public opinion.
38Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 03:16:41.70ID:Fc6zwNMe0
The bubble generation is now in old age. They’re the generation that got money by simply working for a company and getting lifetime employment.
39Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 03:22:15.26ID:DRqo/Uff0
Just do it as a subscription. It’s not possible unless they make people pay a little.
40Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 03:23:36.83ID:rlSYEAxW0
First of all, the elderly are the ones with the most money of all generations, so it’s only natural that they should shoulder the burden.
43Security Guard [lv.6] [bud].Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 03:26:45.73ID:z/RXZmDn0
Know when to quit…
44Security Guard [lv.64].Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 03:27:53.99ID:cTy03vFl0
We keep making unnecessary boxes and maintenance costs are rising.
49Security Guard [lv.9] [Sprout].Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 03:43:15.96ID:YK3RSSMw0
I think there should be a discount for seniors.
60% off for those who have returned their license or don’t have one.
30% off for those who have a license.
That’s about it.
52Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 03:43:58.71ID:6/DBRaeJ0
In America, when news like this is reported, donations start pouring in immediately and wealthy elderly people chip in with money, but in Japan, elderly people don’t help each other. It’s up to the elderly with money to help out.
53Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 1, 2024 (Sun) 03:44:13.59ID:0X9F1QP/0
Who would have thought that a place with such tight finances would try to host the Olympics?
Reference: https://asahi.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1732988258

Other languages: 【札幌】敬老パス見直し、高齢者から反発続出若者からは「負担感」の訴えも, [Sapporo] La revisión del Pase de Respeto a las Personas Mayores sigue provocando la oposición de las personas mayores, y algunos jóvenes se quejan de un ”sentimiento de carga”.

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