DPJ Walks Out in Fury Over $6,800 Income Barrier Talks with LDP

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The Democratic Party of Japan storms out after just 10 minutes of talks with LDP on raising the $6,800 income tax threshold.

1Boom★.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:16:02.33ID:BdS0p9KJ9
On the 17th, Furukawa Motohisa, Chairman of the Tax Commission of the Democratic Party for the People, attended discussions with the Liberal Democratic Party and Komeito along with Hamaguchi Makoto, Chairman of the Policy Research Council, regarding the raising of the “1.03 million yen annual income threshold” at which income tax is triggered, which the party is calling for. However, within 10 minutes, he left the room and told reporters waiting in the hallway, “It’s been canceled” and “It’s over,” before leaving the room in an angry voice. The meeting was originally scheduled for an hour and was to be attended by the policy chiefs of the Liberal Democratic Party, Komeito, and Democratic Party for the People, as well as senior members of the Tax Commission. Regarding this issue, the secretaries-general of the Liberal Democratic Party, Komeito, and Democratic Party for the People agreed on December 11 to raise the “1.03 million yen annual income barrier” to 1.78 million yen starting next year. In response, LDP Chairman of the Tax Commission Miyazawa Yoichi stated that he was “unsatisfied,” and at a meeting of Tax Commission executives from the ruling party and the three Democratic Party for the People parties held on the 13th, the ruling party proposed an amount of 1.23 million yen to the Democratic Party for the People, far short of the 1.78 million yen. The Democratic Party for the People rejected the idea, and further negotiations were scheduled to take place on the same day. Miyazawa also commented on the 1.23 million yen amount, saying he “wanted to show sincerity,” which caused a huge outrage on social media, as many people are calling for the “1.03 million yen barrier” to be raised. Nikkan Sports
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The Democratic Party for the People is furious! He walks out after 10 minutes of discussion with the LDP’s Miyazawa, chairman of the Tax Commission, regarding the increase in the “1.03 million yen wall” [Dodon★].

国民民主激怒!「103万円の壁」引き上げめぐる自民・宮沢税調会長らとの協議10分で席を立つ [どどん★]
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国民民主党の古川元久税調会長は17日、同党が求めている、所得税が生じる「年収103万円の壁」の引き上げに関する自民、公明両党との協議に浜口誠政調会長とともに出席した。しかし、10分もたたないうちに
15Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:19:23.37ID:pXpmL/mg0
>>1
In the national financial statements for fiscal year 2021,
tax and stamp revenues were about 64 trillion yen
and social security-related expenses were about 55 trillion yen
In other words, 86% of tax and stamp revenues were used for social security-related expenses. In Japan, one third of the population is over 65 years old and their livelihoods are supported by social security, and two people, including people with disabilities and minors, support the lives of one elderly person, so the burden on the working generation is increasing. We can’t cut taxes without making big cuts to social security spending. Even if we force tax cuts, taxes will eventually increase at some point, and the burden on the people will not be reduced. The Democratic Party for the People, which only calls for tax cuts and no mention of cutting social security spending, is just trying to deceive the people.
63Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:24:50.46ID:Q2saHbjD0
>>1
Were you deceived by the LDP politicians? lol.
4Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:17:12.95ID:s4/gYXGU0
Stop throwing a tantrum. Let’s have a proper discussion to make Japan a better place. You’re just like a customer who commits customer harassment.
5Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:17:18.74ID:RNlD+hnQ0
I’ve been fooled lol.
6[Boys who look like girls]Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:17:30.86ID:mgaMgxfZ0
I got tricked by someone before.
7Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:18:18.16ID:zgN7Bv+p0
I’m looking forward to summer lol.
8Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:18:39.22ID:uxh0h95A0
That’s what you get for being an Anon.
9Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:18:58.00ID:gEFC0+Kf0
It’s a motion of no confidence in the cabinet!
11Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:19:11.19ID:jmN+2bkL0
In other words, 1.23 million people are bankrupt. So Tamakin wins, right? His stock should be going up in the Ministry of Finance. Social security costs will only go up lol.
12Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:19:13.40ID:btYkkPnZ0
You’re getting too cocky, Tamaki.
13Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:19:13.44ID:LplKrlGz0
Quickly remove the Soka Party from the ruling party.
16Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:19:29.65ID:RPVXeKyU0
There’s no problem with just submitting a motion of no confidence. It’s not like there’s nothing else they want to pass except the budget, so that’s stupid.
17Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:19:38.37ID:C/wFl+ua0
This appears to mean that they have concluded that they will not be removed from the ruling party.
18Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:19:39.94ID:8/0XlTeG0
The Ministry of Finance is a cancer to Japan.
19Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:19:51.35ID:vy/51glQ0
The Democratic Party is incompetent.
20Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:19:57.24ID:ZG4QlDti0
I will not vote for no confidence because coordination between the Constitutional Democratic Party and the Japan Innovation Party candidates has not been completed.
61Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:24:44.37ID:LVY+u0Mi0
>>20
In the first place, only the Constitutional Democratic Party can issue a vote of no confidence.
24Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:20:51.61ID:5LzjW8UD0
With King Bonbi Maehara now in the party, the Ishin Party is on a course to hell no matter what choice they make. If they cooperate with the LDP and Komeito, they will be dragged down the road, but if they cooperate with the Democratic Party for the People, they will only get the credit.
39Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:22:31.30ID:zgN7Bv+p0
>>24
Maehara’s prediction was way off lol.
69Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:25:35.26ID:LVY+u0Mi0
>>24
We were lucky the next election was the House of Councillors election.
If it had been the House of Representatives election, it would have been terrible.
27Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:21:00.86ID:gzowvwf40
The Liberal Democratic Party (Constitutional Democratic Party), which wants to make workers suffer, will lose in the House of Councillors elections.
60Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:24:44.37ID:kI36YQ3V0
>>27
First, please give us a general overview of Abenomics.
30Anonymous donburako rolling around.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:21:43.19ID:VFVF5NZm0
I wonder how many times this has happened

I think it was at least the fourth time lol
I don’t know if Tamaki is an idiot or just a wrestler
Is he really an idiot?

31Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:21:48.58ID:wZJTFWSp0
I wonder how Ishihara will perform. Will he be able to show his manliness here?
35Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:22:08.46ID:73CMOb4O0
The Prime Minister should just shout, “Go with the agreement!” and tell anyone who has a problem to leave the Cabinet. But the Prime Minister can’t do that, so nothing will come together.
89Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:28:12.84ID:i2bj1Y2x0
>>35
Miyazawa isn’t a cabinet member, so he can’t leave 😂.
36Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:22:08.51ID:l4BTaIzm0
Miyazawa-san protected Japan. Japan would have been in trouble if 8 trillion yen had been wasted on policies with vague policy objectives to serve Tamaki’s ambitions as prime minister. I’m grateful to Miyazawa-san for preventing the Tamaki Shock. He’s a modern-day Takahashi Korekiyo.
46Anonymous donburako rolling around.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:23:08.93ID:kSNklS120
>>36
This is gross in its own way.
92Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:28:21.97ID:brusNjFk0
>>36
This is the Reiwa 226 incident lol.
38Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:22:30.02ID:h8g5FsN50
A summary of what the Democratic Party for the People has done: Once again, they were taken advantage of by the Liberal Democratic Party and ended up deserting before the enemy.
48Anonymous donburako rolling around.Dec. 17, 2024 (Tue) 15:23:16.49ID:fHbjNCCt0
It’s because the Democratic Party for the People rushed into performance without thinking about the source of funds for the tax cuts. They’ve inherited the worst aspects of the old Democratic Party.
Reference: https://asahi.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1734416162

Other languages: 国民民主激怒!「103万円の壁」引き上げめぐる自民・宮沢税調会長らとの協議10分で席を立つ, ¡El Partido Democrático Popular está furioso! Se retira después de 10 minutos de discusión con el presidente del Partido Liberal Democrático, Miyazawa, y otros, sobre el aumento de la ”barrera de los 1.030.000 yenes”.

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