The ruling party plans to include a 1.23 million yen barrier in next year’s tax reform, following a break with the Democratic Party for the People.
1Boom★.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:18:55.43ID:y/CmOtU+9
Discussions between the ruling coalition and the Democratic Party for the People have been terminated regarding raising the so-called “1.03 million yen” barrier. Amid this situation, it has been learned that the government and ruling parties are making adjustments to include an increase of 1.23 million yen in the ruling party’s proposal for next year’s tax reform, which is due to be decided as early as the 20th. According to sources, the government and ruling parties are making final adjustments with the aim of finalizing their policy for next year’s tax reform as early as the 20th. In this context, it has been revealed that the ruling party’s proposal includes an adjustment to the amount of the increase in the so-called “1.03 million yen barrier” by including “1.23 million yen.” The ruling party has previously proposed to the Democratic Party for the People that the amount be raised to 1.23 million yen, but the Democratic Party for the People has rejected this and remains in the position of having “terminated negotiations.” However, in order for the Cabinet to decide on next year’s budget by the end of the year, the policy for tax reform must first be decided, so the ruling party is expected to include the 1.23 million yen figure without obtaining the agreement of the Democratic Party for the People. Discussions between the chairmen of the three parties’ Tax Commissions were concluded on the 17th, and there are voices within the government that say, “We should hold revision discussions toward the new year.” NTV
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The ruling party will include a 1.23 million yen wall after a break with the Democratic Party for the People over the 1.03 million yen wall ★2 [Dodon★].
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88Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:38:42.22ID:VQGKpG8x0
>>1
Lol
If the people and other opposition parties don’t agree with this, it will look like they’re against tax cuts
Well, there’s the employee pension system, so it’s effectively a tax increase lol.
2Security Guard [lv.14] [Sprout].Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:20:03.35ID:xFaqH6Ji0
So, will the Constitutional Democratic Party agree to this and the budget pass? It seems that the Ishin Party is considering making it free of charge.
3Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:20:16.18ID:BBCiHc4C0
The coalition is dissolved.
4Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:20:43.60ID:HtqqFROx0
It’s time to cut ties with the Kuomintang and team up with the Japan Innovation Party.
6Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:21:21.04ID:lRGwrOLB0
Miyazawa Tax Commission is the worst of the worst.
7Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:21:21.74ID:y8n1bDjJ0
It seems like they want to lose the House of Councillors election badly too. They are all slaves to the Ministry of Finance and can only be described as stupid.
9Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:21:38.68ID:KPhfvNOk0
That’s probably a reasonable amount. Prices have only risen by about 20% in the last 30 years. The basic deduction is raised in line with the rate of inflation, so a 20% increase to 1.23 million yen would be the right level.
13Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:22:32.97ID:BipGPqHG0
>>9
It’s surprising, since the national burden rate has doubled.
It’s surprising, since the national burden rate has doubled.
14Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:22:33.16ID:CvXuLFnx0
>>9
It’s more about income than prices lol.
It’s more about income than prices lol.
16Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:23:20.83ID:/fM/lfek0
>>9
By the way, how much have social insurance rates changed in the last 30 years?
By the way, how much have social insurance rates changed in the last 30 years?
40Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:29:52.93ID:3ej4Qqy20
>>9
They have the same intelligence as the LDP.
They have the same intelligence as the LDP.
42Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:30:13.00ID:zUV4mGpj0
>>9
The basic deduction only goes up by 100,000 yen.
The basic deduction only goes up by 100,000 yen.
52Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:32:47.14ID:bkI7Z4/W0
>>9
It should be raised according to real wages, not inflation.
Totally wrong.
It should be raised according to real wages, not inflation.
Totally wrong.
83Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:38:22.47ID:MBvRxyHF0
>>9
If that’s the case, then the salaries of lawmakers should be increased by 20% from what they were 30 years ago.
Come on, cut their salaries now.
If that’s the case, then the salaries of lawmakers should be increased by 20% from what they were 30 years ago.
Come on, cut their salaries now.
11Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:22:10.18ID:I1h0SqtX0
With Kishida’s tax increase and increased social insurance burdens waiting for us, an income of around 1.23 million yen will actually result in a negative take-home pay.
12Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:22:19.71ID:hXTuh1LP0
It looks like if you earn 3 million yen a year you’ll get a tax cut of 10,000 yen lol that’s seriously garbage lol.
15Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:23:17.00ID:BipGPqHG0
Next year it’s 56%.
17Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:24:08.64ID:5B8DTiKM0
There’s less.
18Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:24:17.27ID:5B8DTiKM0
Low wages and power harassment.
21Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:25:43.06ID:vgQccwvi0
>>18
This country has always been a state of power harassment by the upper classes.
This country has always been a state of power harassment by the upper classes.
20Security Guard [lv.13] [Sprout].Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:25:09.70ID:TtWh3Foe0
I wonder why there is criticism, but it’s the LDP that you all elected, right?
23Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:25:54.03ID:CvXuLFnx0
>>20
What? Most of them are non-partisan.
What? Most of them are non-partisan.
97Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:40:20.17ID:VQGKpG8x0
>>20
Elections are a process of elimination
You didn’t choose someone because you liked them lol.
Elections are a process of elimination
You didn’t choose someone because you liked them lol.
22Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:25:50.54ID:MYm2iUfS0
I’ve never been so excited about an election before, and I even voted in the recent House of Representatives election for the first time in decades. Finally, there’s a political party that’s supported by ordinary Japanese workers.
25Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:26:25.13ID:WcuZqip80
Tamaki worked at the Ministry of Finance and Furukawa at the Ministry of Finance under the LDP government.
They understand the meaning of the words and documents used by politicians, political parties and bureaucrats.
They also understand the actions and compromises of the LDP and each ministry, especially the Ministry of Finance.
On top of that, they act dishonestly and deceive and incite the ignorant public with their monkey business.
They’re a frightening political party.
The LDP has done the same thing lol.
26Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:26:38.62ID:HFY5/gZf0
If we remove the deduction and have a graduated tax system, there will be no need to hold back on work. Let’s consider that.
28Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:27:00.90ID:fnydMS/I0
Voters are stupid and forgetful anyway, so they’ll vote for the LDP, right? This lucky guy from the Democratic Party for the People will be gone next time, so just ignore him… that’s what the LDP is like. If you don’t like it, then vote for the Democratic Party for the People next time and make sure the LDP loses.
29Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:27:09.11ID:0+ujwzv90
Well, the ruling party’s negotiating partners aren’t just Minmin, so there’s still a long way to go.
30Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:27:21.83ID:zHCphwZu0
Pass a motion of no confidence in the cabinet.
31Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:27:35.80ID:tfrfHYCm0
“I cannot accept the proposal of the Democratic Party for the People. If they said, “We’ll raise the wall to 2 million,” the LDP’s stock prices would skyrocket.
72Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:36:15.53ID:1iYAN6Z20
>>31
It would be nice if Ishiba, an opposition figure within the ruling party, could overturn the situation with a single word, but I doubt that will happen.
It would be nice if Ishiba, an opposition figure within the ruling party, could overturn the situation with a single word, but I doubt that will happen.
33Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:27:53.11ID:QZdUnTvD0
Ah, the only option now is to dissolve the Diet and hold a general election.
34Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:28:12.92ID:EMsLFdB20
Now we know, the LDP won’t regret its decision just because the LDP and Komeito lost their majority, and we must force them out of the ruling coalition.
36Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:28:53.85ID:yYwZUL6B0
Osawa had been told that if he wanted to realize his policies he should become prime minister, but he should have bowed down to the Constitutional Democratic Party and become Prime Minister Tamaki.
37Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:29:07.91ID:0VZHMBTs0
Yuichiro Tamaki (Democratic Party for the People)
@tamakiyuichiro
Why is the increase from 1.03 million yen to 1.23 million yen, as proposed by Chairman Miyazawa of the Tax Commission, “unacceptable”? This is because the effect of tax cuts is extremely small. It’s long so please follow the link for the rest.
@tamakiyuichiro
Why is the increase from 1.03 million yen to 1.23 million yen, as proposed by Chairman Miyazawa of the Tax Commission, “unacceptable”? This is because the effect of tax cuts is extremely small. It’s long so please follow the link for the rest.
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38Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:29:16.21ID:MbQwfvZU0
Adulterer Tamaki vs. SM Miyazawa. Miyazawa wins by a landslide in both political experience and perversion.
41Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:29:58.31ID:gV5u4S9q0
Have you made a deal with the Restoration Party?
43Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:30:26.50ID:PVMjqiyP0
Well, I think 1.23 million is a bit too stingy.
45Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:31:14.74ID:2T3Y+BHq0
I thought this policy was not a tax cut to stimulate the economy, but a policy to solve the labor shortage, but is that wrong? 1.23 million yen seems like a good figure to solve the labor shortage, so why is it being discussed mainly as a tax cut?
46Security Guard [lv.1] [Sprout].Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:31:17.46ID:fXkTQZOX0
The 1.3 million yen wall is gone, but how does it compare to before? Has it gotten worse?
47Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:31:22.83ID:QZdUnTvD0
If we make the annual salary of Diet members 1.23 million yen, that would be enough to live a basic life.
58Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:34:27.40ID:2T3Y+BHq0
>>47
Don’t equate deductions with annual income.
If the discussion is too low-level and too emotional, tax cut policies will become less viable.
Don’t equate deductions with annual income.
If the discussion is too low-level and too emotional, tax cut policies will become less viable.
60Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:34:43.86ID:BipGPqHG0
>>47
It’s based on calories, so it’s just food, clothing, and shelter.
Add in the naked homeless lifestyle.
It’s based on calories, so it’s just food, clothing, and shelter.
Add in the naked homeless lifestyle.
49Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 18, 2024 (Wed) 19:31:32.86ID:Wyql2Qt30
Well, I guess it’s better than doing nothing…
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