LDP’s Onodera Urges Tax Solutions Amid $11 Billion Gap in Tax Base Proposal

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LDP’s Onodera asks the Democratic Party to address the $11 billion tax gap in their proposal to raise the tax-free income threshold.

1No thanks★.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 15:58:58.80ID:+00YgJvt9
On an NHK program on the 22nd, LDP Policy Research Council Chairman Onodera called on the Democratic Party for the People to “propose ways to fill the tax base gap” in a review of the “1.03 million yen annual income barrier.” In response to the Democratic Party for the People’s demand to raise the income tax exemption limit to 1.78 million yen, he said that if the limit were raised, “there would be a huge budget deficit of 7 to 8 trillion yen, so I would like them to propose how to fill the gap.” For details, see the source Yomiuri 2024/12/22 (Sun) 12:39
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「103万円の壁」見直し、自民・小野寺政調会長が国民民主に「税源穴埋めの提案を」(読売新聞オンライン) - Yahoo!ニュース
自民党の小野寺政調会長は22日のNHK番組で、「年収103万円の壁」の見直しを巡り、所得税の非課税枠を178万円まで引き上げるよう求めている国民民主党に対し、引き上げた場合に「7兆~8兆円という大
178万円まで引き上げで、自民・小野寺氏「何で税源穴埋めするか提案して欲しい」国民民主に要請 ★2 [お断り★]
5ちゃんねるのニュース速報+@5ch掲示板での議論に参加しましょう:「178万円まで引き上げで、自民・小野寺氏「何で税源穴埋めするか提案して欲しい」国民民主に要請 ★2 」。
11Security guard [lv.19].Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:00:42.22ID:7+e2vFvs0
>>1
I believe this person said something along the lines of, “60% of people in Japan don’t pay income tax, and the LDP is implementing policies for them, so they won’t do anything in particular for the working generation.”
16Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:01:07.73ID:DsptER1y0
>>1
Just say something, even if it’s just issuing government bonds.
They probably won’t say anything because it would split their supporters when it comes to funding,
but the media and public opinion are starting to say it’s cowardly to apply pressure without showing anything.
37Security Guard [lv.9] [Sprout].Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:02:56.23ID:sDnHI+6l0
>>1
Get rid of the Child and Family Agency.
42Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:03:09.23ID:JJB6Z1ES0
>>1

Tamaki has said that the ruling party should think about how to deal with the reduced revenue, and has not proposed any concrete measures.
Just like a former finance bureaucrat, give a blunt response!

63Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:04:57.82ID:5RuHYehg0
>>1
“I’m willing to accept a decline in local government services if it means I can increase my take-home pay,” says more than 50% in opinion poll. Raising the “1.03 million yen annual income barrier” reduces tax revenues, 3 stars.
66Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:05:12.00ID:z1mmCMbF0
>>1
The consumption tax would have to be raised by 3%.
92Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:07:18.42ID:DEzqQtVq0
We should eliminate employment subsidies for young people and seniors to make it equal
>>1.
2Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 15:59:29.70ID:VRtC5pdS0
Enemy of the people.
5Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:00:18.86ID:+uXjsJno0
It is estimated that demand will increase by up to 9.6 trillion yen and the total labor force will increase by 2.1%.
Well, it’s hard to find a reason not to do it.
6Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:00:26.92ID:rBV1aq2t0
Where does the money come from to raise civil servant salaries?
7Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:00:31.65ID:Vy5Qx+nN0
We could agree to gradually raise the rate while watching how things go lol.
9Kuromon ◆irmwjhgpjm.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:00:37.92ID:rQy16HhB0
The source of funds can be yen-denominated government bonds. And just refinance it like other countries and don’t have to pay it off.
10Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:00:40.52ID:UN7v/Fcu0
It’s already too much hassle. Let’s raise the consumption tax to 30%, eliminate tobacco tax and NHK fees, and just cover it with a 30% consumption tax.
20Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:01:32.07ID:8LWrjDkT0
>>10
High-income earners who pay 40% income tax must rejoice.
27Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:02:20.64ID:BiirNlnY0
>>10
The consumption tax is a tax that the rich are happy about.
13Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:00:49.70ID:BiirNlnY0
Onodera really only thinks about squeezing the people dry.
14Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:00:50.94ID:B9gbB8hv0
Maybe you should reconsider your spending?
17Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:01:15.86ID:itENf0XZ0
Why can’t they afford to raise the salaries of civil servants? It’s strange.
29Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:02:26.88ID:Gy3cAhJW0
>>17
That’s subversion of the state.
22Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:01:48.44ID:45kvyQYX0
What have you been up to now?
48Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:03:54.47ID:/2byO2cq0
>>22
They haven’t even examined the impact of national politics so far in comparison with other countries (Diet proposal).
23Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:02:03.27ID:LmNXSwIE0
Tax religious corporations.
84Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:06:35.65ID:QDIbCGSY0
>>23
Only the Communist Party can do that.
24Security guard [lv.27].Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:02:04.59ID:6+gZotxK0
Why are you talking like that about financial resources when you’ve been stagnating Japan for 30 years with nothing but contradictory policies to secure vested interests? You can say that after you’ve abolished the special accounts.
25Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:02:15.38ID:KQEVSjKa0
The salaries of civil servants have increased.
26Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:02:15.98ID:9lBOAu/l0
Fire the scandal-prone lawmakers. Fire the lawmakers who fell asleep in parliament. This will make up for it.
32Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:02:38.22ID:nhhTjSIP0
Reduce the number of lawmakers.
33Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:02:40.58ID:lc+z1s3t0
The enemy of the people: “Don’t get too cocky, Democratic Party for the People.”
The people: “In that case, I’ll vote for the Democratic Party for the People.”

国民民主、協議継続引き出した自民とのチキンレース 予算反対で揺さぶり
国民民主党は20日の自民、公明両党との3党幹事長会談で、所得税が生じる「年収103万円の壁」に関する継続協議を引き出した。自民は国民民主と引き上げ幅で折り合え…
34Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:02:43.25ID:um5ttF3l0
Retained earnings of large corporations.
35Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:02:46.38ID:GrCnnNZp0
The LDP is about to step down. Don’t underestimate the people.
36Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:02:52.17ID:BsIToVyn0
If the tax rate is raised to 1.78 million yen, household income will increase, people will buy more things and increase consumption, which will lead to increased tax revenues such as consumption tax, and this will be more than enough to cover expenses. The ruling party and the Ministry of Finance are so incompetent, they can’t even understand such simple things and can only do desk calculations lol.
38Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:02:56.72ID:4UEuDJ+K0
Will anything change unless the LDP suffers a major defeat in the next election?
39Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:03:01.41ID:OTIxs4kd0
A simple income tax would be nice.
41Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:03:08.39ID:Hj7SSMag0
I’ll vote for someone other than the LDP, Komeito, or Nippon Ishin no Kabushiki Kaigi in the next election.
45Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:03:26.32ID:+uXjsJno0
Under inflation, debt decreases in value.
So it’s better to have mild inflation.
To have mild inflation, it’s better to increase demand.
To increase demand, it’s better to cut taxes.
To cut taxes, it’s better to cut wasteful expenses.
The first thing the LDP should do is cut expenses.
Not increase taxes.
80Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:06:12.74ID:Hj7SSMag0
>>45
There’s no way the LDP, who hate Japanese people, would do something like that.
46Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:03:39.55ID:HLurHOnI0
If we cut wasteful organizations like the Agency for Children and Families, we can do it right away.
56Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:04:23.86ID:8LWrjDkT0
>>46
Even though his supporters are coming up with concrete proposals like this,
Tamaki is silent.
The representative is more dishonest than his supporters.
47Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:03:49.39ID:2JjUymR80
It’s so gross how these people always start talking about funding when it comes to tax cuts.
50Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:03:59.98ID:BJkOXSPQ0
I’ve been missing this for a long time.
52Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 22, 2024 (Sun) 16:04:02.20ID:/zOc//Ab0
Reduce the number of members of parliament.
Reference: https://asahi.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1734850738

Other languages: 178万円まで引き上げで、自民・小野寺氏「何で税源穴埋めするか提案して欲しい」国民民主に要請, La cantidad se elevará a 1,78 millones de yenes, y el Sr. Onodera, del Partido Liberal Democrático, pidió al Partido Democrático Popular Democrático que propusiera formas de llenar el vacío en los ingresos fiscales.

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