Cabinet Office Policy contest... “Overtime work should be outsourced” wins.

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0001Mr.Shoko★.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:07:25.24ID:Wg94Iu5N9
Policy contest criticized for encouraging evasion of the law: “Overtime work is outsourced” wins (Kyodo News) – Yahoo!News

8/3 (Sat) 19:02

The winning idea in the policy proposal contest on wage increases posted on the Cabinet Office’s website

The policy proposal contest on “wage increases” held by the Cabinet Office has been criticized by labor unions and labor law experts for “encouraging evasion of the law.” The winning idea regarding overtime work was to reduce the burden of social insurance premiums and other costs by switching to a contract for services, leading to some criticism that the government’s stance is now being called into question. In June, the Cabinet Office published on its website the results of a “Policy Ideas Contest for Achieving Widespread Wage Increases,” which was held among prefectural employees. The winning idea was to ban overtime work for company employees and outsource work after regular hours to self-employed individuals, which was said to have benefits for both labor and management, such as reduced social insurance premiums and increased take-home pay. (Omitted)
The federation released a statement from its secretary-general saying, “It is regrettable that the Cabinet Office, which is responsible for planning and drafting important national policies, has awarded and publicized a proposal that encourages evasion of the law.” *See source for full text.

政策コンテスト、脱法推奨と批判 「残業は業務委託」が優勝(共同通信) - Yahoo!ニュース
内閣府が実施した「賃上げ」に関する政策案コンテストに対し、労働組合や労働法の専門家から「脱法行為の推奨だ」などとの批判が相次いでいる。時間外労働(残業)に関して、業務委託契約に切り替えることで社会
0011Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:12:42.59ID:2sBOCv6p0
>>1
Like
The information is going to be leaked.
0014Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:16:08.64ID:mAXCdiWF0(1/3)
>>1
This is exactly what the Alliance said.
0035Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:34:24.53ID:3rRNHg730
>>1
What’s so bad about this is that it wasn’t made by some smart but naive new graduate, but by an assistant section chief
And Yoshitaka Shindo, Minister of State for Economic Revitalization, who read the contents and decided that it was the winner, is the most badass.
0098Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 03:54:42.22ID:DdmbgtOL0
>>1
It’s not a wage increase, it’s a replacement. Social security contributions are declining. They just cut back on the benefits that employees should be entitled to.
0109Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 04:00:32.43ID:dY00HXpP0(1/54)
>>1
The Labor Standards Act simply prescribes overtime pay as a penalty, so any contract to avoid that would have to be illegal.
It completely defeats the purpose of the law.
We shouldn’t let this guy win, lol, as the government lol.
0003Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:08:58.78ID:PKXhNWc80
If it’s a consignment, you don’t have to accept the order, right?
0093Security guard [lv.19].Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 03:50:17.94ID:kSCFku1d0(1/13)
>>3
If you don’t mind being fired, go ahead.
Since it’s a contract job, it doesn’t matter if you’re on a minimum wage or the 36-hour work agreement, so you can order 500 hours of work for 1 yen, right?
0005Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:10:19.01ID:mhPTtvTx0(2/5)
For now, it’s clear that the Cabinet Office is either incompetent at Japanese or made up of non-Japanese people.
0007Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:10:56.78ID:3u/TvW/X0
Cheating is always first-rate
Japanese
>The winning idea was to ban overtime work for company employees and outsource work after regular hours to self-employed individuals.
0008Security guard [lv.32].Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:11:51.35ID:qz6Z46150
It would be 100,000,000 times better to outsource the Prime Minister’s work.
0010Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:12:31.03ID:mhPTtvTx0(3/5)
>>8
So true lol.
0024Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:23:24.28ID:PsNyQtgh0
>>8
I agree.
0030Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:28:56.43ID:WoXd9HLe0
>>8
Should we outsource it to America?
0009Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:12:20.86ID:qx21O/Tj0
Everyone at the core of the country has become hedonistic. They live a lavish life until they die using stolen tax money. If all Japanese people became politicians or government officials, everyone would live happily. There would be nowhere to steal tax money from, but I don’t care. I don’t care.
0012Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:13:48.49ID:UXucbFni0
The government of this country has been taken over by the Unification Church.
0103Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 03:56:50.24ID:oiQmjTa20(1/6)
>>12
In fact, I think Japan is already under the control of the pot, and politicians and bureaucrats are only working to destroy Japan lol
The LDP government is that bad lol.
0013Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:14:11.08ID:gAwgjrFu0
People will die.
0015Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:16:17.60ID:6lDptuq20
It doesn’t matter, as long as the client has the ability to make realistic estimates for the work without leaving it all to others, we would definitely like them to entrust us with the work.
0021Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:20:17.43ID:mhPTtvTx0(5/5)
>>15
Proper source wife
That’s not what I’m talking about
I’m threatening you that if you work overtime, you’ll be treated as an independent contractor no matter how much overtime you work
Because you’re an independent contractor, even if you work 200 hours overtime and end up in the hospital, it won’t be considered a work-related injury lol.
0016Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:16:59.57ID:mhPTtvTx0(4/5)
Let’s outsource excessive work to reduce overtime! ← This makes sense

The ones who work overtime will be switched to outsourcing contracts!! ← This is just plain crazy

And this method is a wage increase!! ← Human trash who thinks they can get away with anything by calling it a wage increase.

0018Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:17:34.31ID:DDAPVlKU0
>>16
If I had read only the title of the thread, I would have thought it was above.
0066Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 03:05:37.16ID:hZ1V/X4n0
>>16
This guy seems stupid.
0017Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:17:02.55ID:rHbcAt0z0
Relaxing dismissal regulations would make it cheaper to make everyone non-regular.
0019Security guard [lv.28].Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:18:07.24ID:UDKIj/a10(2/2)
If you are treated as an independent contractor, you won’t be forced to work 24 hours a day.
0034Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:34:08.49ID:QJHOjmRp0(2/2)
>>19
That’s it.
0020Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:18:23.53ID:v2yn04KZ0
No matter how you look at it, it’s illegal. It’s really too shady. Well, the illegal act of pachinko has been overlooked for so many years, so it’s a bit late to talk about it now.
0023Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:22:05.21ID:jXhfLxQc0(1/2)
If a worker is made to work overtime, will his or her death not be considered an industrial accident?
0025Security guard [lv.19].Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:23:47.99ID:eX0Pwc0s0
This shows the nature of the Liberal Democratic Party well: making money first.
0026Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:26:27.57ID:C30JWIGw0
I can’t go home until this work is finished, so I’ll have to stay up all night.
0028Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:28:02.73ID:q0A5V/2H0
If it’s a commission, just refuse.
0029Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:28:16.17ID:D2AQqlnN0
If you quit your full-time job and outsource all your work, you’ll be free from overtime, social security, and everything else. Plus, you’ll save on consumption tax.
0101Security guard [lv.19].Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 03:55:34.91ID:oV8Ls8HW0(1/2)
>>29
In the future, there will be a lot of people on welfare.
0032Security guard [lv.28].Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:32:18.59ID:Xz9wxQF10(2/5)
Starting this month, overtime work will be outsourced


Unfortunately, the conditions didn’t suit me so I didn’t get the job

I’ll be leaving on time every day.

0036Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:36:07.74ID:wYPYo2wI0
By the way, since it’s a “contracted business,” you absolutely cannot manage working hours (forcing employees to come to work or not allowing them to leave work), and as a supervisor you cannot scold or instruct them about their work.

For some reason, this is conveniently still considered “employment.”

This type of contracted business format has been around in the real estate sales industry for a while, but the basic premise is that it must be “completely separate from employment.” Companies that can’t even do this bare minimum should never do it.

0039Security guard [lv.28].Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:38:03.38ID:Xz9wxQF10(3/5)
>>36
The worst
>>32
I still can’t complain about this.
0043Anonymous donburako rolling around.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:39:41.65ID:lJo5ZjBz0(2/4)
>>36
The real estate business is mostly commission-based. We have to weed out the ones that don’t sell. If the bill is rejected, bureaucrats will also be required to work zero overtime and with no salary guarantees.
0062Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 03:01:09.76ID:mAXCdiWF0(3/3)
>>36
It’s disguised contracting.
0087Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 03:38:07.14ID:jXhfLxQc0(2/2)
>>36
It’s the same as disguised subcontracting for temporary employment.
0037Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:36:59.49ID:lJo5ZjBz0(1/4)
Why not try an experiment with bureaucrats at the Cabinet Office?
0042Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:38:52.75ID:UIQvVUNn0
>>37
There’s no way around it, since civil servants are prohibited from having a second job and can’t be self-employed.
0045Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:40:53.50ID:+JTyAyUe0
No, they’re slaves now.
0048Anonymous Donburako.Aug. 4, 2024 (Sun) 02:41:29.38ID:2Bq65Xu40
The next policy has been decided.
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