A commotion in Minato Ward exposes guardians withholding real estate and savings details from heirs, sparking concerns over elderly rights.
1@Old Man Friends Club ★.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:09:30.36ID:mFHkKka09
On June 17th of this year, a small commotion occurred in front of Takanawa Police Station of the Metropolitan Police Department in Minato Ward, Tokyo. An elderly woman with white hair yelled out as she desperately grabbed the handle of a senior citizen cart with both hands. “Just because you’re a guardian doesn’t mean you can do whatever you want!”
The anger is directed at the female lawyer standing on the right. The lawyer is the guardian of an elderly woman. Adult guardians are responsible for managing assets and providing daily living support on behalf of people who have significantly lost the ability to make decisions due to dementia or other reasons. It can handle all aspects of daily life, from withdrawing cash from a bank account to signing up for nursing care services. For this reason, there must be a strong relationship of trust between the ward receiving the service and the adult guardian. However, there seemed to be no trust between the two, and the atmosphere was tense from the outside. What on earth happened in front of the police station? The second part of the series investigating the “abduction of elderly people by local governments” is set in Minato Ward, Tokyo, following the previous part. This is a different incident from the one reported initially. The incident in front of Takanawa Police Station occurred four days before the rainy season began, and Tokyo had been under light clouds since the morning. The commotion happened this afternoon. When Harue Yamano (not her real name), an elderly woman in her 70s, began shouting at her lawyer, who was her legal guardian, she was surrounded by around 20 police officers and the area in front of the police station was temporarily thrown into chaos. [Omitted]
The guardian’s lawyer grabbed Harue by the shoulders, who was yelling and resisting, and tried to take her away somewhere else. In response, Harue and Suzuki protested, saying, “Don’t do that!”, but the guardian’s lawyer coldly replied without changing his expression: “I’m the guardian.”
The commotion in front of the police station reportedly lasted for nearly an hour. Eventually, the police officers forced Harue into a car belonging to the elderly care facility and forcibly took her to the facility. The incident was captured on video. Looking back, the last words Harue shouted as she was being pushed into the car, mustering all the strength from her small body, were “Stop it! Seriously!” Her niece, Suzuki, can never forget that scene. [Omitted]
● Guardian obsessed with real estate owned by elderly people
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2024/11/28 11:45.
The anger is directed at the female lawyer standing on the right. The lawyer is the guardian of an elderly woman. Adult guardians are responsible for managing assets and providing daily living support on behalf of people who have significantly lost the ability to make decisions due to dementia or other reasons. It can handle all aspects of daily life, from withdrawing cash from a bank account to signing up for nursing care services. For this reason, there must be a strong relationship of trust between the ward receiving the service and the adult guardian. However, there seemed to be no trust between the two, and the atmosphere was tense from the outside. What on earth happened in front of the police station? The second part of the series investigating the “abduction of elderly people by local governments” is set in Minato Ward, Tokyo, following the previous part. This is a different incident from the one reported initially. The incident in front of Takanawa Police Station occurred four days before the rainy season began, and Tokyo had been under light clouds since the morning. The commotion happened this afternoon. When Harue Yamano (not her real name), an elderly woman in her 70s, began shouting at her lawyer, who was her legal guardian, she was surrounded by around 20 police officers and the area in front of the police station was temporarily thrown into chaos. [Omitted]
The guardian’s lawyer grabbed Harue by the shoulders, who was yelling and resisting, and tried to take her away somewhere else. In response, Harue and Suzuki protested, saying, “Don’t do that!”, but the guardian’s lawyer coldly replied without changing his expression: “I’m the guardian.”
The commotion in front of the police station reportedly lasted for nearly an hour. Eventually, the police officers forced Harue into a car belonging to the elderly care facility and forcibly took her to the facility. The incident was captured on video. Looking back, the last words Harue shouted as she was being pushed into the car, mustering all the strength from her small body, were “Stop it! Seriously!” Her niece, Suzuki, can never forget that scene. [Omitted]
● Guardian obsessed with real estate owned by elderly people
Continue reading slow news
2024/11/28 11:45.
突然、警察官に連行される高齢者!面会を認めず、相続人に不動産の評価や貯金さえ明かさない後見人…港区で起きている「高齢者連れ去り」の実態とは(SlowNews/スローニュース) - Yahoo!ニュース
今年6月17日、東京都港区の警視庁高輪警察署の前で、ちょっとした騒ぎがおきた。白髪の高齢女性が、高齢者向けキャリーカートのハンドルを両手で必死につかみながら、大声を張り上げた。「後見人だから(何
26Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:21:38.51ID:CBzK86oR0
>>1
The guardianship system is a law based on the assumption that lawyers are good people,
but lawyers are just good at the law and represent people in court, they’re not good people at all. If there are legal heirs, the law should be changed to allow them to become guardians. The lawyer’s role should be to monitor the guardian.
The guardianship system is a law based on the assumption that lawyers are good people,
but lawyers are just good at the law and represent people in court, they’re not good people at all. If there are legal heirs, the law should be changed to allow them to become guardians. The lawyer’s role should be to monitor the guardian.
4Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:12:30.34ID:IUOf8B6E0
Inheritance disputes are bloody affairs, so this is what happens. It feels like it’s just begun.
6Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:12:48.92ID:qulbet4A0
You don’t have to tell your heirs about your assets.
7Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:13:28.36ID:KYh9l9A/0
I just came from Minato Ward Office.
9Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:13:46.26ID:1AUj13LD0
So there’s a criminal group using the name of guardianship? There aren’t many good lawyers, and you can’t trust them just because they’re professionals.
18Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:18:00.80ID:m6HsqSKl0
>>9
However, it’s often the relatives who are the guardians of the senile person who do these kinds of bad things. Amateurs will inevitably succumb to the temptation of money in the wallet of a senile person and be unable to distinguish it from their own. It’s not impossible for a professional like a judicial scrivener to do it, but even if they do that, they’ll inevitably get found out in the end and their life will be ruined \(^o^)/, so I don’t do it unless I’m in debt or something.
However, it’s often the relatives who are the guardians of the senile person who do these kinds of bad things. Amateurs will inevitably succumb to the temptation of money in the wallet of a senile person and be unable to distinguish it from their own. It’s not impossible for a professional like a judicial scrivener to do it, but even if they do that, they’ll inevitably get found out in the end and their life will be ruined \(^o^)/, so I don’t do it unless I’m in debt or something.
19Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:18:40.36ID:IUOf8B6E0
>>9
Isn’t the second most common occupation for psychopaths lawyers?
First place is business owners.
Third place is TV media.
Isn’t the second most common occupation for psychopaths lawyers?
First place is business owners.
Third place is TV media.
27Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:23:17.97ID:zUfDDxMD0
>>9
Something like that happened in a public hospital in the backstreets of Japan a while back.
An elderly man who was hospitalized with dementia had his assets donated to the hospital for some reason.
Something like that happened in a public hospital in the backstreets of Japan a while back.
An elderly man who was hospitalized with dementia had his assets donated to the hospital for some reason.
10Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:13:48.45ID:IrvUpeVC0
Then we went to Obasuteyama.
11Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:14:28.72ID:FOwh/8It0
Koreans and Chinese have a strong presence in the guardianship business. The police are turning a blind eye, and there are collaborators within the government, so there’s nothing that can be done about this.
12Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:14:57.76ID:7CQoHLL80
If you don’t die before you get too stunned, things are going to get pretty bad.
14Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:16:23.94ID:2dwI732i0
I don’t think you can pay the inheritance tax unless you sell the land.
15Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:16:38.14ID:x9YXJay80
Whether it’s the local government, lawyers, or caregivers, there are people who do this in every industry.
16Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:16:51.33ID:1fXIRd4C0
I don’t want to become senile. If that’s the case, do we have no choice but to choose the fear of dying from cancer or heart failure? I don’t want to get old.
23Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:20:06.79ID:IrvUpeVC0
>>16
If you’re senile, even if someone does something mean to you, you’ll forget about it the next day.
If you’re senile, even if someone does something mean to you, you’ll forget about it the next day.
17Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:16:56.04ID:TZRXnKiJ0
The adult guardianship system has already been exposed as a nefarious system, and those who fall victim to it will have to put up with it until the problem gets bigger and it is reformed.
29Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:24:54.53ID:m6HsqSKl0
>>17
> The adult guardianship system is already known to be a terrible system
There are people who make assumptions based on online reputations like this, but it’s a case-by-case basis. If you want to have it managed by relatives, you can choose voluntary guardianship rather than using the adult guardianship system.
> The adult guardianship system is already known to be a terrible system
There are people who make assumptions based on online reputations like this, but it’s a case-by-case basis. If you want to have it managed by relatives, you can choose voluntary guardianship rather than using the adult guardianship system.
20Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:19:00.14ID:zUfDDxMD0
Just as bad as this was the dramatic change in the law that meant that third-party management of condominium management associations meant that owners could no longer do anything.
24Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:20:10.23ID:0HurWmKb0
>>20
Because they require third-party management.
Because they require third-party management.
21Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:19:27.74ID:0HurWmKb0
No, no, legal guardians are just volunteers, right?
22Security guard [lv.18].Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:19:34.80ID:vpAJdDjD0
Another JFBA?
25Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:21:21.09ID:9OdM1BV80
If you don’t make various arrangements before you develop dementia, it could become a dangerous business in some ways.
28Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:23:32.09ID:jvccbtjz0
From what I can see, Harue still seems to be in good shape.
35Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:30:32.20ID:m6HsqSKl0
>>28
The adult guardianship system requires a diagnosis to be submitted to the family court proving that the person is senile, so there’s no doubt that he is senile. If the ward is doing it, there’s no way the diagnosis results would be fabricated.
The adult guardianship system requires a diagnosis to be submitted to the family court proving that the person is senile, so there’s no doubt that he is senile. If the ward is doing it, there’s no way the diagnosis results would be fabricated.
31Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:25:28.63ID:LqQyVimV0
The real estate bubble is back: Chinese people are desperately trying to take land inheritance from elderly Japanese people.
33Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:29:31.92ID:tx/kFzXO0
If you don’t sort it out properly while your legs and feet are still intact, it’s not like you can take it with you to the next world.
36Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:31:10.47ID:lKGKEBTj0
Don’t trust people in Minato Ward or Chiyoda Ward because they’re all Generation Z.
38Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:33:52.61ID:1ZYsqNGh0
Would you be willing to be a guardian for an elderly person with no assets and nowhere to go?
I’m okay with taking my grandfather with me because he has nothing but debts, but…I’m having trouble with debt collectors coming to my house.
40Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:35:43.78ID:FRZL1dXB0
This successor system is not well known, but I read an article about a man who had multiple successors who were arrested for embezzling money shortly after it started. It’s a system full of holes, but it’s mandatory.
41Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:35:46.68ID:6I7v3aVG0
Lawyers have no qualms about helping criminals, and it has recently been revealed that although there has been evidence for the past 20 years of Kurdish migrant workers, the Japan Federation of Bar Associations has silenced them, citing discrimination.
45Security Guard [lv.1] [Sprout].Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:40:52.11ID:78YkD2H10
What if it was made compulsory to write a will when you turn 65?
It should also be made compulsory to renew it every five years.
It should also be made compulsory to renew it every five years.
52Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:47:32.46ID:G3l1QPLR0
>>45
People who don’t know how to write a will
will turn to self-proclaimed experts and have their assets stolen.
If you transfer it to this account, you won’t have to pay inheritance tax.
When you need the money in the future, you can transfer it back to your original account with just one phone call.
(grins).
People who don’t know how to write a will
will turn to self-proclaimed experts and have their assets stolen.
If you transfer it to this account, you won’t have to pay inheritance tax.
When you need the money in the future, you can transfer it back to your original account with just one phone call.
(grins).
47Anonymous Donburako.Nov. 28, 2024 (Thu) 20:43:15.74ID:MQ6lmKRR0
There was also a case where a home care worker stole money.
Other languages: 【自治体による高齢者の連れ去り】相続人に不動産の評価や貯金さえ明かさない後見人…港区で起きている「高齢者連れ去り」, [Remoción de personas mayores por parte de los gobiernos locales] Guardianes que ni siquiera revelan valoraciones de bienes raíces o ahorros a los herederos… La “remoción de personas mayores’’ está ocurriendo en el distrito de Minato.
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