The debate over visiting Yasukuni Shrine intensifies amid Japan-South Korea tensions over the Sado Island Gold Mine memorial ceremony.
1@Masked Unider ★.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 12:38:10.18ID:IYx1VDcj
No matter how much we discuss it, it will be a waste of time. That is what a debate between two parties with different basic understandings and goals looks like. A controversy between Japan and South Korea (not limited to diplomatic channels) over the memorial ceremony for the World Heritage Site “Sado Island Gold Mine,” held in Sado City, Niigata Prefecture. Finally, the memorial ceremonies held separately by both Japan and South Korea have come to an end, but what remains is the manipulation of public opinion that “visiting Yasukuni Shrine is a bad thing.” ・The “impression manipulation” left by the Sado Island Gold Mine Memorial Ceremony
A Korean worker who worked at the Sado Island Gold Mine brought his wife over from the peninsula and had two children in Sado. Korean workers who worked for Japanese companies received the same wages as Japanese workers and were enrolled in the national pension system. Korean comfort women on the Japanese mainland earned more than an army general, and they diligently saved it in postal savings accounts… “There’s no way Korean workers were forcibly taken away,” or “It’s inconceivable that they were forcibly taken away as sex slaves,” would be the cry of the “honor students of the Japan Teachers Union.” However, there is physical evidence of these events on the Japanese side. There have been cases where South Korean newspapers have reported things in tear-jerking articles without realizing that they were contradicting themselves. Yet, the general public opinion in South Korea remains stuck on the false idea that comfort women were “forcibly taken away” (the view that comfort women were “sex slaves” has weakened considerably). Regarding the Sado memorial service, the Korean side demanded a response from the Japanese side based on what it called a “rigid and false theory.” Is it international common sense to interfere in the content of the “eulogy” read by the Japanese side? Because their basic understanding is different, they will never agree. Furthermore, Kyodo News made a huge mistake by reporting that Parliamentary Vice-Minister for Foreign Affairs Akiko Ikuina, who attended the memorial service as a government representative, had “visited Yasukuni Shrine.” The Korean media jumped on it. President Yoon Seok-yeol is a lame duck with an approval rating of just 20%, having been abandoned by conservative newspapers due to his concern over his wife Kim Kun-hee. I had no choice but to decide, “Yes, I’m not going to attend a memorial service with such a parliamentary official in attendance.” It doesn’t matter whether he attends the memorial service that South Korea itself requested to be held or not. The problem is that Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshimasa Hayashi insisted that “Mr. Ikuina has not visited Yasukuni Shrine.” This is nothing more than an explanation that falls into South Korea’s assumption that Yasukuni Shrine is evil. Why can’t we say, “What’s wrong with Japanese politicians visiting Yasukuni Shrine?” The memorial ceremony controversy left behind a joint attempt by the Japanese and South Korean governments to “manipulate the impression” that “visiting Yasukuni Shrine is a bad thing.” (Journalist Muroya Katsumi)
2024.11/29 06:30
※Related thread
[Yomiuri Shimbun] Kyodo News President apologizes to Akiko Ikuina for false reporting of “Yasukuni Shrine visit”…Ikuina says, “I myself am deeply hurt” [11/29] [Masked Unida★]
“I feel something is wrong with the old media desperately trying to convey this to China and Korea”…Former Defense Minister Kihara and others raise questions about Yasukuni Shrine visit reporting [11/27] [Bird★].
A Korean worker who worked at the Sado Island Gold Mine brought his wife over from the peninsula and had two children in Sado. Korean workers who worked for Japanese companies received the same wages as Japanese workers and were enrolled in the national pension system. Korean comfort women on the Japanese mainland earned more than an army general, and they diligently saved it in postal savings accounts… “There’s no way Korean workers were forcibly taken away,” or “It’s inconceivable that they were forcibly taken away as sex slaves,” would be the cry of the “honor students of the Japan Teachers Union.” However, there is physical evidence of these events on the Japanese side. There have been cases where South Korean newspapers have reported things in tear-jerking articles without realizing that they were contradicting themselves. Yet, the general public opinion in South Korea remains stuck on the false idea that comfort women were “forcibly taken away” (the view that comfort women were “sex slaves” has weakened considerably). Regarding the Sado memorial service, the Korean side demanded a response from the Japanese side based on what it called a “rigid and false theory.” Is it international common sense to interfere in the content of the “eulogy” read by the Japanese side? Because their basic understanding is different, they will never agree. Furthermore, Kyodo News made a huge mistake by reporting that Parliamentary Vice-Minister for Foreign Affairs Akiko Ikuina, who attended the memorial service as a government representative, had “visited Yasukuni Shrine.” The Korean media jumped on it. President Yoon Seok-yeol is a lame duck with an approval rating of just 20%, having been abandoned by conservative newspapers due to his concern over his wife Kim Kun-hee. I had no choice but to decide, “Yes, I’m not going to attend a memorial service with such a parliamentary official in attendance.” It doesn’t matter whether he attends the memorial service that South Korea itself requested to be held or not. The problem is that Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshimasa Hayashi insisted that “Mr. Ikuina has not visited Yasukuni Shrine.” This is nothing more than an explanation that falls into South Korea’s assumption that Yasukuni Shrine is evil. Why can’t we say, “What’s wrong with Japanese politicians visiting Yasukuni Shrine?” The memorial ceremony controversy left behind a joint attempt by the Japanese and South Korean governments to “manipulate the impression” that “visiting Yasukuni Shrine is a bad thing.” (Journalist Muroya Katsumi)
2024.11/29 06:30
※Related thread
[Yomiuri Shimbun] Kyodo News President apologizes to Akiko Ikuina for false reporting of “Yasukuni Shrine visit”…Ikuina says, “I myself am deeply hurt” [11/29] [Masked Unida★]
“I feel something is wrong with the old media desperately trying to convey this to China and Korea”…Former Defense Minister Kihara and others raise questions about Yasukuni Shrine visit reporting [11/27] [Bird★].
【室谷克実 深層韓国】「靖国参拝してどこが悪い」林官房長官は言えないのか 生稲晃子氏めぐる共同通信の大誤報 韓国の「靖国神社=悪」に嵌った日本政府(2/2ページ)
どれほど話し合ったところで徒労でしかない。基礎認識と目的が違う二者の論争とは、そういうものだ。
【読売新聞】 共同通信社長が生稲晃子氏に「靖国参拝」誤報を謝罪…生稲氏「私自身、心を痛めている」 [11/29] [仮面ウニダー★]
5ちゃんねるの東アジアニュース速報+@5ch掲示板での議論に参加しましょう:「【読売新聞】 共同通信社長が生稲晃子氏に「靖国参拝」誤報を謝罪…生稲氏「私自身、心を痛めている」 [11/29] 」。
「中韓に必死で伝えるオールドメディアに異常性を感じる」…木原前防衛相ら、靖国参拝報道に相次ぐ疑問の声 [11/27] [ばーど★]
5ちゃんねるの東アジアニュース速報+@5ch掲示板での議論に参加しましょう:「「中韓に必死で伝えるオールドメディアに異常性を感じる」…木原前防衛相ら、靖国参拝報道に相次ぐ疑問の声 」。
65<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:24:37.84ID:QfBW2VcP
>>1
It’s so reasonable I can’t say a word.
It’s so reasonable I can’t say a word.
73<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:41:32.39ID:Rsi0THOf
>>1
How dare you get so angry, even though you’re a criminal?
Yasukuni is a war criminal shrine, and the Japanese are a nation of war criminals. That’s the reality. Know your place.
How dare you get so angry, even though you’re a criminal?
Yasukuni is a war criminal shrine, and the Japanese are a nation of war criminals. That’s the reality. Know your place.
81<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:55:59.98ID:HD/Q01sF
>>1
“Sexy yoga during work = bad”?
“Sexy yoga during work = bad”?
2<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 12:39:21.35ID:IYx1VDcj
<丶`∀´>As was the case in the morning thread, there is some strange manipulation of the impression of Yasukuni Shrine.
3<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 12:40:35.37ID:XMOlkmjJ
<丶`∀´>On the other hand, I thought that. The Japanese government also needs to say, “Don’t interfere in Korea’s internal affairs every time.”
23Now Kongming.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 12:49:05.10ID:Yh0CU6mq
>>14
Of course it’s related.
30 million Chinese were killed by the Japanese army.
Of course it’s related.
30 million Chinese were killed by the Japanese army.
18Kyoppopyo Update Team @Tiger ◆mbtgqnrejgjz.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 12:47:46.31ID:6bUbPkUN
>>15
And they’re even more resilient.
And they’re even more resilient.
16<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 12:47:08.83ID:iU559nxy
This doesn’t mean the Japanese government has apologized to the Korean government, so it’s fine.
17<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 12:47:26.71ID:+CS0O3by
Wouldn’t it be better to build Yasukuni 2.0?
War criminals were enshrined there (laughs).
War criminals were enshrined there (laughs).
20<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 12:48:29.06ID:+/ofjKfU
>>17
How many times do I have to tell you that subshrines increase the number of places to worship?
How many times do I have to tell you that subshrines increase the number of places to worship?
56<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:14:02.85ID:yvJTK97e
>>20
If the ban on women entering shrines is lifted, then things like that can be changed as much as you want depending on how you interpret them.
If the ban on women entering shrines is lifted, then things like that can be changed as much as you want depending on how you interpret them.
22<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 12:49:02.40ID:hskvsd4B
From a Japanese religious perspective, neglecting to visit Yasukuni Shrine would mean hoping to anger the war dead and cause them to go on a rampage. Do China and Korea want Japan to be invincible again? This time, Japan and the US will join forces to be invincible?
26<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 12:51:41.25ID:spJFux22
>>23
Nanjing is only 1%.
Nanjing is only 1%.
29<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 12:52:41.54ID:V5zf6Uap
>>27
Don’t introduce yourself. Garbage.
Don’t introduce yourself. Garbage.
28Kyoppopyo Update Team @Tiger ◆mbtgqnrejgjz.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 12:52:23.38ID:6bUbPkUN
>> 27
You want to make this a debt thread? LOL
Stupid Korean lol.
You want to make this a debt thread? LOL
Stupid Korean lol.
31Now Kongming.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 12:53:10.32ID:Yh0CU6mq
>>28
Debt???
Debt???
35<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 12:56:28.40ID:T18aFpmO
>>32
The mass media is at the forefront of this.
The mass media is at the forefront of this.
33<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 12:55:23.37ID:9sGXHbPP
Isn’t it because they enshrine war criminals after their deaths?
Aum is probably the only religious corporation that does this.
Aum is probably the only religious corporation that does this.
39Now Kongming.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 12:57:59.97ID:Yh0CU6mq
>>34
The facts were also established at the Tokyo Trials.
The facts were also established at the Tokyo Trials.
37Kyoppopyo Update Team @Tiger ◆mbtgqnrejgjz.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 12:57:42.55ID:6bUbPkUN
>> 31
I owe you 100 million yen. Give it back now. Do you really want to make this a joke thread that badly, you stupid Korean lol?
I owe you 100 million yen. Give it back now. Do you really want to make this a joke thread that badly, you stupid Korean lol?
44Now Kongming.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:00:26.55ID:Yh0CU6mq
>>37
Can you tell me your account number?
Can you tell me your account number?
38<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 12:57:50.81ID:wieO2YgP
“It’s only natural for a country to worship those who sacrificed their lives for the country,” said Navy Lieutenant Tsutomu Iwai. “When I think about the conflict that my war comrades went through when they died, I think it’s ridiculous to ask whether it’s right or wrong to go to Yasukuni Shrine. I think politicians say stupid things when it comes to individuals and public figures,” said Navy Lieutenant Harada Kaname.
42Now Kongming.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 12:59:51.01ID:Yh0CU6mq
>>38
Is it really for the good of the country?
Is it really for the good of the country?
40Kyoppopyo Update Team @Tiger ◆mbtgqnrejgjz.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 12:58:04.42ID:6bUbPkUN
>> 33
Blind belief lol.
Blind belief lol.
41Kyoppopyo Update Team @Tiger ◆mbtgqnrejgjz.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 12:58:52.85ID:6bUbPkUN
>> 39
Is that the level of intelligence? As expected from the con man Chosenjin lol.
Is that the level of intelligence? As expected from the con man Chosenjin lol.
43<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 12:59:53.22ID:iYnQnpjW
This woman is nothing but trash too.
46<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:00:56.61ID:pGX9qEBn
The Tokyo Trials were faked, as confessed by the Indian representative at the time.
47Kyoppopyo Update Team @Tiger ◆mbtgqnrejgjz.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:01:07.92ID:6bUbPkUN
>> 44
What, you’re an idiot who believes something without evidence LOL.
What, you’re an idiot who believes something without evidence LOL.
48<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:02:01.18ID:ZpG1D24w
A Kyodo News reporter who spends the whole day in front of Yasukuni Shrine watching over who is going to pay their respects.
50Kyoppopyo Update Team @Tiger ◆mbtgqnrejgjz.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:04:44.40ID:6bUbPkUN
>> 49
Proof of acquisition lol.
Proof of acquisition lol.
51<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:04:46.00ID:pGX9qEBn
In the first place, China betrayed Asia and joined the West. The reward for pretending to be the victorious nation and for betraying it was being made a permanent member of the UN Security Council. Japan liberated Southeast Asia and other areas from invasion by Europe and the United States and supported their independence.
53<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:07:32.73ID:pGX9qEBn
There is another reward for betraying Asia. This involves economic domination in Southeast Asia and other places, and the upper class with vested interests in this area are the overseas Chinese.
54Now Kongming.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:10:04.30ID:Yh0CU6mq
It’s over for Japan. Perish along with Yasukuni Shrine.
58Now Kongming.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:14:54.44ID:Yh0CU6mq
>>55
If Yasukuni Shrine disappeared, everything would be solved.
If Yasukuni Shrine disappeared, everything would be solved.
57<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:14:21.59ID:1qggo2gG
A stinky dog🐕 from the vicious terrorist state of North Korea🇰🇵
Defecating Communist Reiwa is not a liberal, it’s a lunatic
In the minds of recent liberals
North Korea’s local branch is not the General Association of Korean Residents in Japan but the Unification Church, because the Unification Church is one of the support groups for the LDP, and the General Association of Korean Residents in Japan supports the Constitutional Democratic Party, the Communist Party, and the Reiwa Shinsengumi
A foolish Reiwa supporter confessed
Let’s destroy the General Association of Korean Residents in Japan and the defecating Communist Reiwa
Six years ago, a South Korean naval vessel shone a radar on a Self-Defense Force patrol aircraft. It has been revealed that President Moon Jae-in gave orders to the South Korean Navy at the direction of General Secretary Kim Jong-un. South Korea was completely absorbed into North Korea. Let’s wipe out the Chinese Communist Party and North Korean spies within the Liberal Democratic Party.
Defecating Communist Reiwa is not a liberal, it’s a lunatic
In the minds of recent liberals
North Korea’s local branch is not the General Association of Korean Residents in Japan but the Unification Church, because the Unification Church is one of the support groups for the LDP, and the General Association of Korean Residents in Japan supports the Constitutional Democratic Party, the Communist Party, and the Reiwa Shinsengumi
A foolish Reiwa supporter confessed
Let’s destroy the General Association of Korean Residents in Japan and the defecating Communist Reiwa
Six years ago, a South Korean naval vessel shone a radar on a Self-Defense Force patrol aircraft. It has been revealed that President Moon Jae-in gave orders to the South Korean Navy at the direction of General Secretary Kim Jong-un. South Korea was completely absorbed into North Korea. Let’s wipe out the Chinese Communist Party and North Korean spies within the Liberal Democratic Party.
60<丶`∀´>(´・ω・`)(`Ha´ )san.Nov. 29, 2024 (Fri) 13:17:44.93ID:lx+WBYEJ
Lin Hosey is a Chinese tycoon so he keeps quiet. He’s a vicious Chinese tycoon who caused an accident while drunk driving and pressured the police, turning the victim into the perpetrator.
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