A $4,620 expense by Governor Saito faces scrutiny for alleged election law violations. Investigation ongoing, future unclear.
1Kei-chan at night★.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:30:47.21ID:gI218g9A9
12/2 (Mon) 20:26 Sankei Shimbun
On the 2nd, it was revealed that a complaint against Hyogo Prefectural Police and others for violating the Public Offices Election Act in connection with the November gubernatorial election in which Hyogo Governor Saito Motohiko was re-elected has been sent to Saito and others. The indictment claims that the approximately 700,000 yen spent on a PR company involved in Saito’s social networking site strategy was “remuneration for election campaigning, which should have been free of charge,” but Saito’s side denies any illegality, saying it was “payment for poster production and the like.” The investigative authorities are expected to make a careful decision on whether to accept the complaint. ■ Election campaign? On November 20, the representative of the PR company posted on an online posting platform that he had been “in charge of all PR for Saito’s camp” and that “as the supervisor, I was responsible for drawing up the election strategy, setting up the account, planning the content, etc.” He also described the SNS operation strategy as being in stages, such as “sowing seeds” and “nurturing,” but later deleted this. Based on the content of the posts, the indictment points out that the PR company’s use of social media “constitutes election campaigning using the Internet.” At a press conference on November 27, Mr. Saito’s lawyer also stated, “If (the representative personally) were to upload a video during an election period, for example, it would be seen as election campaigning,” but claimed that employees other than the representative “are not involved (in election campaigning).” The purpose of the reward The biggest focus of attention in determining whether this allegation constitutes a violation of the Public Offices Election Act is the purpose of the reward. Mr. Saito’s agent explained that based on an invoice sent by the PR company, he paid a total of 715,000 yen for five items, including the production of posters and campaign slides. “Payment of compensation (for posters, etc.) as part of political activities or preparatory acts for candidacy is permitted by law,” he said, emphasizing that the activities of the leader aside from the five items are “unpaid volunteer work by individuals.” In response, the indictment stated that while Saito’s representative showed an invoice at the press conference, the estimate had not been made public, making it unclear whether the payment was commensurate with the work. On the other hand, citing social media exchanges between key members of Saito’s camp and the representative of the PR company, he pointed out that the representative was in charge of the social media strategy. They claim that the payment includes social media services and is therefore illegal. This is a long post, so here is the source.
On the 2nd, it was revealed that a complaint against Hyogo Prefectural Police and others for violating the Public Offices Election Act in connection with the November gubernatorial election in which Hyogo Governor Saito Motohiko was re-elected has been sent to Saito and others. The indictment claims that the approximately 700,000 yen spent on a PR company involved in Saito’s social networking site strategy was “remuneration for election campaigning, which should have been free of charge,” but Saito’s side denies any illegality, saying it was “payment for poster production and the like.” The investigative authorities are expected to make a careful decision on whether to accept the complaint. ■ Election campaign? On November 20, the representative of the PR company posted on an online posting platform that he had been “in charge of all PR for Saito’s camp” and that “as the supervisor, I was responsible for drawing up the election strategy, setting up the account, planning the content, etc.” He also described the SNS operation strategy as being in stages, such as “sowing seeds” and “nurturing,” but later deleted this. Based on the content of the posts, the indictment points out that the PR company’s use of social media “constitutes election campaigning using the Internet.” At a press conference on November 27, Mr. Saito’s lawyer also stated, “If (the representative personally) were to upload a video during an election period, for example, it would be seen as election campaigning,” but claimed that employees other than the representative “are not involved (in election campaigning).” The purpose of the reward The biggest focus of attention in determining whether this allegation constitutes a violation of the Public Offices Election Act is the purpose of the reward. Mr. Saito’s agent explained that based on an invoice sent by the PR company, he paid a total of 715,000 yen for five items, including the production of posters and campaign slides. “Payment of compensation (for posters, etc.) as part of political activities or preparatory acts for candidacy is permitted by law,” he said, emphasizing that the activities of the leader aside from the five items are “unpaid volunteer work by individuals.” In response, the indictment stated that while Saito’s representative showed an invoice at the press conference, the estimate had not been made public, making it unclear whether the payment was commensurate with the work. On the other hand, citing social media exchanges between key members of Saito’s camp and the representative of the PR company, he pointed out that the representative was in charge of the social media strategy. They claim that the payment includes social media services and is therefore illegal. This is a long post, so here is the source.
Date and time of posting: 2024/12/02 (Mon) 21:04:46.22
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What did Governor Saito pay 700,000 yen to? No sign of indictment, no prospect of filing, senior investigator says “it will take time.”
斎藤知事は何に70万円払ったか 告発状提出も見えぬ先行き、捜査幹部は「時間がかかる」 [夜のけいちゃん★]
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兵庫県の斎藤元彦知事が再選した11月の知事選を巡り、斎藤氏らに対する公選法違反罪での告発状が兵庫県警などに送付されたことが2日、明らかになった。告発状は斎藤氏側の交流サイト(SNS)戦略に関わったP
37Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:47:38.59ID:gLIGVOH90
>>1
If this creates a front-row line for arrests, a lot of politicians will be arrested in the future.
If this creates a front-row line for arrests, a lot of politicians will be arrested in the future.
2Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:32:31.60ID:cWTg0I910
>First, when we asked former Tokyo District Public Prosecutors Office Special Investigation Division lawyer Wakasa whether the complaint would be accepted, he said “there is a high possibility.” It has been pointed out that in some cases it could take anywhere from six months to nearly a year to make a decision on whether to prosecute. >Even if the governor is indicted, it will take 3 to 4 years for him to be found guilty, so generally speaking, he will be able to continue in his position as governor. [Commentary] Will the criminal complaint “indictment” against Governor Saito Motohiko and the head of the PR company be accepted? What will be the decision on whether to indict or not? Is there a possibility that they will lose their jobs?
//news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/13740a8ae56175ffab0de0e450ded205a2d44272.
//news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/13740a8ae56175ffab0de0e450ded205a2d44272.
3Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:32:40.67ID:TYAU/YEt0
Even though so much has been exposed on social media…
5Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:35:22.95ID:wP6yiEJ00
Police: “It will take time (tsk, that’s a pain).”
6Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:35:35.43ID:XE4OCRYE0
Recently, journalist Shinohara exposed the fraudulent receipt of survivor’s pension by KK’s mother, but her claim was rejected and returned. It seems that it will only be accepted if the situation is extremely bad.
7Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:36:19.58ID:gAnocp/m0
I just want the governor’s safety to be well protected. This is the most entertaining theater ever. The prosecutors’ office’s special investigation unit must be really motivated.
8Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:37:20.40ID:xwTqDkY90
It’s hilarious how the old media is running around in confusion, saying things like whether volunteering is cheap or expensive and whether volunteering is a crime.
9Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:37:23.00ID:n6y/tQ/Z0
Well, try doing all the activities that the president mentioned for just 700,000 yen. It’s a huge loss. An acquisition won’t work unless the other party benefits from it.
10Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:38:47.45ID:V0oH4cac0
Horie doesn’t look that bad at first glance, so I told him not to keep poking around.
18Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:40:53.76ID:ghaeRx4y0
>>10
That’s what he said when he was arrested.
That’s what he said when he was arrested.
11Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:39:07.18ID:6jYc6bIc0
This is all tax money.
13Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:39:31.12ID:1MhFmYw/0
Wouldn’t it be okay to indict him two years later to avoid criticism from the prefecture for the cost of the re-election? Politically, he’s already a dead man, so that would be politically enough rather than arresting him right away.
14Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:39:31.84ID:Tt1gh+j80
Let me see the results of the decision made by the people of Hyogo Prefecture.
15Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:39:39.93ID:ghaeRx4y0
It usually takes a few months.
16Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:39:45.41ID:ghaeRx4y0
Candidate arrested for violating the Public Offices Election Act after his campaign worker was seen half-naked [643485443]
17Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:39:53.11ID:VuASOTs90
It’s the cost of putting up a poster.
20Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:41:53.40ID:Yi4nwW420
Will he continue as governor and by the end of his term be found to have committed an election violation?
25Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:43:15.28ID:gek3/TE60
>>20
If he is indicted, it will be a vote of no confidence.
If he is indicted, it will be a vote of no confidence.
21Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:42:03.00ID:V0oH4cac0
If simply carrying out an election without violating election law is so complicated and difficult, doesn’t this system only favor the LDP?
22Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:42:38.15ID:55BvF1cW0
What does it mean to “send” the indictment letter?
Wouldn’t you normally carry something this important by hand?
I don’t know.
Wouldn’t you normally carry something this important by hand?
I don’t know.
23Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:42:49.72ID:+oZpgMOK0
Is that PR company a volunteer company?
24Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:43:07.77ID:/M7QAb7w0
Go ahead and accuse everyone else too.
26Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:43:18.13ID:F39DVXTD0
If the police say it will take time, it means they won’t turn away any complaints.
27Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:43:48.09ID:A7LX4XuH0
Sankei, you too?
28Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:44:56.87ID:6CVFxlhk0
In the first place, it would be reckless to run for governor as an independent and without any support.
30Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:45:31.25ID:LroB4rvy0
Raid them quickly before the evidence is destroyed.
31Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:45:51.81ID:KJpmnDVW0
Former Tokyo District Public Prosecutor’s Office employee Wakasa apparently told the media that if the governor’s side was prepared to fight the case in court, he would be able to complete his term, so trials in Japan take a long time.
32Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:46:06.60ID:xwTqDkY90
I wish the old media would cover violations of the Public Offices Election Act in other elections as well as they did with Governor Saito.
33Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:46:06.97ID:swSjazrj0
It won’t be ready in time for the gubernatorial election four years from now, so it’ll be shelved.
34Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:46:08.75ID:gAnocp/m0
Yomiuri is leading the way when it comes to Saito, and Sankei is relentless. I don’t know, but maybe Mainichi is being a little cautious.
35Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:46:16.98ID:mTeQTBg30
Will a case that makes you wonder whether it should even be accepted ever go all the way to prosecution?
46Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:49:57.16ID:gek3/TE60
>>35
If he is indicted, he will most likely be found guilty.
If he is indicted, he will most likely be found guilty.
36Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:47:15.35ID:4nfnCtcd0
Make a poster?
39Security Guard [lv.4] [Sprout].Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:48:02.15ID:57QyI62e0
It seems like the prosecutors want to focus on prosecuting Tokuryuu rather than this violation of the Public Offices Election Act 🤣.
40Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:48:25.01ID:+LiUvX1M0
I don’t think the courts would consider them volunteers.
41Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:48:38.89ID:YOasHwoM0
You won’t be caught for election violations unless the person who received the money comes forward with some kind of evidence.
42Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:49:06.04ID:Y+bfonh+0
If 700,000 is enough to get you out, then all politicians are out lol.
44Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:49:25.18ID:vPnSceRH0
Is this what Kanno was suspicious of? The 700,000 yen was actually for SNS management fees, and the posters were outsourced to someone else.
65Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 3, 2024 (Tue) 00:00:10.02ID:e0DJiuKa0
>>44
Isn’t 700,000 yen for SNS really cheap?
700,000 yen was just for the poster, and SNS probably promised to pay separately behind the scenes.
Isn’t 700,000 yen for SNS really cheap?
700,000 yen was just for the poster, and SNS probably promised to pay separately behind the scenes.
50Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:51:55.63ID:gR/IqMlK0
I was going to write something like “The police should hurry up and do their jobs,” but
I’ve seen articles about people dying from overwork…
I’ve seen articles about people dying from overwork…
57Anonymous Donburako.Dec. 2, 2024 (Mon) 23:56:43.42ID:STQ4qImG0
I might have already smashed my computer and thrown it away.
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