The Japan Restoration Party’s proposal to limit expenses for “family drinking parties” to 5,000 yen per person has angered office workers.

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0001★50 years of part-time experience.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:36:49.42ID:qvG9NIig9
The Japan Restoration Party disclosed its policy activity expenses for the two months of November and December 2023, but has been criticized because much of the 6 million yen spent was on food and drink, and the destination of the expenditure was shaded in yellow so it could not be confirmed, and the cost of dining per person could not be confirmed. Regarding Hashimoto’s criticisms, Otokita denied the frequency of drinking parties and the high cost of them, but agreed that reforms were needed regarding dining out. So he proposed setting the following rules: “When meeting with party members, the limit is 5,000 yen per person,” and “When meeting with non-party members and private rooms or other arrangements are required, the limit is 15,000 yen per person.” And they prided themselves on these proposed limits being “rules (governance code) on par with or even better than those in the private sector.” (Political reporter)
However, there was a lot of criticism within X about the “5,000 yen per person” limit on spending at “family drinking parties” that Otokita proposed. 《In the private sector, having a meeting with food and drinks for 5,000 yen is unheard of.》
《In principle, when it’s between family members, the company pays for it (5,000 yen is the standard) once or twice a year for team-building social gatherings, but for regular friends, it’s normal to pay for everything out of your own pocket.》
《In my case, I usually pay for my own drinking parties at work… but the private sector and the political world are different…》
《In the majority of private companies, when employees go out drinking together, they pay for everything out of their own pocket. At best, you might get a little assistance for the end-of-year party. Do you know how many small and medium-sized businesses there are in Japan? Isn’t this a mistake with the vacancy code? 》
A veteran secretary of the Liberal Democratic Party said this. “Diet member dining expenses are often listed as “meetings” or “dining expenses” under “organizational activity expenses” included in the political activity expenses section of the expenditures section of the political funding report. On one occasion, a member of the House of Representatives who held a high-ranking position in the party posted on social media that he had gone out for meals and drinks at a Latin American restaurant with four or five staff members from a relevant department at the LDP headquarters. The lawmaker’s income and expenditure report included the date, the name and address of the Latin American restaurant to which the expenditure was made, and the amount. In the case of private companies, such drinking parties among friends may generally not be recognized as expenses, but in Nagatacho, drinking parties among friends are not considered a problem as long as they are listed as political activity expenses.

「民間企業じゃありえない」日本維新の会 “身内の飲み会”は「1人あたり5000円」案がサラリーマン感情を逆なで!(SmartFLASH) - Yahoo!ニュース
日本維新の会・音喜多駿政調会長が、9月16日に自身のXに投稿した “飲みニケーション” に関する内容に批判があがっている。  発端は、9月9日に橋下徹元大阪府知事が、9月9日にXに投稿した《政治
0050Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:58:52.54ID:l9ELsZsN0(1/6)
>>1
Policy activity expenses = personal drinking expenses
Are these guys some kind of youth group that gets their salary from tax money?
If that’s how they feel, then all lawmakers should just be honorary positions and get 0 salary.
0113Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 07:15:08.92ID:Yy5ZBLoB0
>>1
Alcohol is more harmful than good, and it’s the root cause of all kinds of diseases, so if you’re with family, you should drink carbonated water instead. You’re not unaware of the dangers of not only tobacco but also alcohol, so stop these bad habits and bad conservatism.
0002Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:38:05.69ID:DTnYlGWa0
The Restoration must be over already.
0003Security Guard [lv.4] [Sprout].Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:38:37.54ID:9xoc5FVl0(1/2)
He has no common sense, just like some governors.
0005Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:39:31.00ID:gxwKts8P0
I think it would be okay to spend that much.
0037Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:55:00.23ID:bSnGa5VE0
>>5
If it’s that much, just pay it yourself.
Thanks to Saito, the Ishin Party has become known as a beggar.
0006Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:39:39.91ID:2FEF1es50
> In the private sector, “having a meeting while eating and drinking for 5,000 yen” is unheard of. Yes, it is!
0017Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:43:18.56ID:ovQyBLos0
>>6
It’s nice that the company pays for family drinks.
0007Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:40:15.10ID:iA693Igw0(1/2)
The painful reforms were a complete lie.
0008Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:40:16.30ID:q9iSVbmd0
A completely stupid case.
0009Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:40:31.32ID:vfGh1f1p0
Everyone who becomes a manager does it. During the bubble era, even regular employees could write it off as an expense.
0025Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:46:11.31ID:UmEhYxkb0
>>9
Expenses aren’t free, and entertainment expenses are a target for the tax office.
0010Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:41:16.16ID:lIo6muxZ0
It’s not an expense so you have to pay for it yourself. If it were an expense, the company would pay for it. You have no idea how society works.
0011Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:41:49.86ID:C4G4eaBs0
For blue collar workers, there is usually no savings and the salary is usually paid for by the company.
0012Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:42:02.54ID:5S/biNEg0(1/5)
Stable restoration.
0013Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:42:07.57ID:2RKsJvhT0
I was surprised, it’s the Japan Innovation Party.
0015Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:42:47.81ID:zaaatdCZ0
✗Political group
◯Dining group.
0016Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:43:10.37ID:59sj0s1j0
The legal limit was 5,000 yen lol.
0062Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 07:01:54.58ID:eApZo98q0
>>16
The upper limit has been revised to 10,000.
0018Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:43:36.50ID:AVj3pDze0
In the end, the LDP’s secret funds were used for eating and drinking.
0019Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:44:05.38ID:4NJscH7x0
If we allow expenses to go as high as possible, the economy will recover. I bet the Ministry of Finance’s no-panties shabu-shabu was delicious.
0020Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:44:23.34ID:ifzcHP5l0
The only option left is for the Restoration Party to leave.
0021Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:44:26.85ID:9QHs517S0
The Restoration Party is finished. The Osaka Expo and the Kobe Governor issue (regardless of the internal situation, the public’s sentiment is that the Governor is in the wrong). They won’t be able to recover until the general election that is likely to be held soon.
0022Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:44:42.35ID:3qDTHzB80(1/7)
Yesterday I went drinking with some colleagues at an izakaya and three drinks and food came to about 6,000 yen per person (´・ω・`).
0024Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:45:39.81ID:+8N9V6AG0
The Ishin Party will suffer a major defeat in the general election, and their votes will probably go to the Constitutional Democratic Party. The LDP will not be able to disrupt the status quo with the Koizumi whirlwind. The Constitutional Democratic Party will not lose by much either.
0026Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:47:15.16ID:/GU3M3jH0
The after-party will be in the bath!
0028Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:49:04.41ID:09irp08d0
If you have the money, you can do anything.
0029Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:49:09.51ID:5S/biNEg0(2/5)
Belief leads to painful reform.
0031Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:49:56.08ID:Jhu5F4200
It’s a drinking party, not a meeting.
0033Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:51:47.44ID:1jSp1gEI0(1/17)
What an idiot comparing it to the private sector lol.
0039Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:56:15.85ID:ME8D5Lbg0(1/2)
>>33
Otokita: “Rules (governance code) on par with or even greater than those of private companies.”
Otokita is the one comparing it to the private sector.
0034Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:52:10.51ID:LmLpVFlo0
They’re likely to lose a lot of seats in the next election, so they’re probably desperate.
0035Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:52:53.01ID:eJeAukON0(1/2)
The Ishin Party has a party-like vibe to it.
0036Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:54:06.70ID:dFakL1zD0(1/10)
Our company’s regulations are 5,000 yen without alcohol and 10,000 yen with alcohol.
0040Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:56:34.03ID:6nZLf0vE0
Meal voucher.
0041Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:57:09.05ID:SIL7HNuY0
Expenses from 5000 yen…?
0042Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:57:12.36ID:J2whO6QA0
Since it couldn’t be expensed, I paid for it out of my own pocket and treated it as overtime.
0043Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:57:12.97ID:dTdOnyc/0
If it’s a white-collar company, drinking parties are covered…
But only twice a year, for the new graduate welcome party and the end-of-year party.
0044Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:57:19.45ID:pX2GFtZJ0
It’s the same in the private sector too.
0049Security Guard [lv.20][Seedling].Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 06:58:40.91ID:61E5ZYUF0(2/54)
I can see that only the bad ones are left.
0056Security Guard [lv.20][Seedling].Sep. 21, 2024 (Sat) 07:00:50.08ID:61E5ZYUF0(3/54)
I guess these guys are in office to eat and drink.
Reference: https://asahi.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/newsplus/1726868209

Other languages: 日本維新の会“身内の飲み会”は経費「1人あたり5000円」案がサラリーマン感情を逆なで, El plan de “fiesta familiar para beber” de la Sociedad Japonesa de Restauración, que costará “5.000 yenes por persona”, ha afectado negativamente los sentimientos de los trabajadores de oficina.

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