Kiyoshi Nakahata Questions Japanese Baseball’s Treatment of Legends Like Tanaka

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Kiyoshi Nakahata criticizes Japanese baseball on “Sunday Morning” for not valuing legends after Masahiro Tanaka becomes a free agent.

1ailuropoda melanoleuca★.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:40:29.13ID:e7Wsalli9
Former Chunichi Dragons manager Hiromitsu Ochiai and former DeNA manager Kiyoshi Nakahata appeared live on TBS’s “Sunday Morning” (Sunday, 8:00 a.m.) on the 15th. The program reported that pitcher Masahiro Tanaka, who became a free agent from Rakuten, participated in Mizuno’s “Ma-kun Lab 2024 supported by Mizuno,” an event held in Tokyo on the 8th, with which he is under contract. The program reported that he revealed that there has been no progress regarding his current situation. In addition, the broadcast aired a clip of Tanaka being asked by reporters, “What does baseball mean to you?” in which he responded, “Baseball has always been at the center of my life, and I think it is no exaggeration to say that baseball is my life itself.” Nakahata expressed his outrage, saying, “Why do so many players, all legends, have to have this kind of conversation?…It makes me think that Japanese baseball has a culture of not valuing legends.” He continued, “I think that if Rakuten had responded a little better before it got to this point, they could have found a way forward among themselves and said, ‘Let’s proceed in this way,’ so that things wouldn’t have had to get this bad. In that sense there is no consideration. In Japan’s case, the response is poor.”

中畑清氏、「サンモニ」で田中将大「自由契約」に憤慨「日本の野球はレジェンドを大事にしない体質があるのか」 - スポーツ報知
元中日監督の落合博満氏と元DeNA監督の中畑清氏が15日、TBS系「サンデーモーニング」(日曜・午前8時)に生出演した。
56Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:49:54.23ID:vIAaxtMA0
>>1
Can you take responsibility if other players’ livelihoods are threatened because of some so-called legend?
Outsiders are so noisy even though they can’t take responsibility.
4Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:41:44.45ID:at+F0dpo0
Rakuten priced it higher than it could really offer.
5Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:41:49.45ID:yCfnC66g0
Rakuten showed sincerity because they are legends, but Tanaka only left because he was selfish.
100Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:55:52.55ID:jOr4CNUy0
>>5
That’s right
It’s just the result of getting too cocky
I feel like it’s what you got.
6Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:42:05.05ID:W4psfB600
You’ve already been well taken care of.
7Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:42:09.60ID:Q09eQIaO0
He has the nerve to say that, even though he was the one who gave Nakamura Nori a cold shoulder when he was the manager.
12Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:42:48.38ID:PsaijFCk0
>>7
Yeah, that did happen.
19Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:44:12.86ID:x9PYKnPl0
>>7
Yokohama wasn’t the only place Nori messed up.
24Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:44:52.33ID:A+eWyfu70
>>7
Didn’t you just ignore the instructions?
8Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:42:18.06ID:ukMzJxJP0
Don’t use foreign words like “legend”.
10Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:42:32.09ID:JqLRaIqy0
Rakuten was trying to show kindness by giving him a contract, but Tanaka was the one who threw sand in the sand.
11Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:42:43.56ID:bAlZfdUK0
What is a professional?
13Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:43:22.20ID:p7eiqoQN0
Tanaka was angry and criticized the front office, but it was Rakuten that protected him when he was at ease.
16Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:43:57.99ID:HiSwd3h+0
Nakahata-san is so kind.
17Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:44:04.71ID:GP7gwV5p0
Nakahata was also furious when Manager Oh was fired in the past.
18Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:44:04.75ID:xb+yz+Hb0
I’ll support you with your own pocket money. Win the remaining three games in amateur baseball.
20Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:44:24.16ID:UCmTWK4+0
Then you take care of it.
21Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:44:33.81ID:oOvfxpWX0
You don’t need what you don’t need.
27Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:45:37.22ID:mT/s489m0
Who would have thought that Masahiro Tanaka would become the Kamiya Akira of baseball?
28Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:45:52.07ID:HC1mRPCO0
A way of thinking that Ryu Murakami would dislike: He said things like, “Don’t bring obligation or human feelings into sports.”
29Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:46:01.60ID:xK/pzL2u0
A legend is something you call a player who has been with Rakuten his whole life.
30Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:46:04.68ID:dIgoRf4U0
He’s a professional.
31Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:46:23.72ID:jm//ivOl0
It’s just not useful anymore.
32Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:46:30.55ID:3Zo8MDqC0
Mexico is good enough now.
34Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:46:47.27ID:VBTyb1ZK0
His pride has become too inflated.
35Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:46:48.67ID:P3msQADv0
The reality is that if Ochiai can pitch, there’s a chance we’ll get it.
36Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:46:54.11ID:NA0t8PYc0
It’s a world of skill so legends don’t matter. It’s always been like this.
39Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:47:31.18ID:9r8vxfeS0
It’s wrong to force the word “legend” on someone.
41Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:47:51.72ID:VB5/lL6X0
There were players like Masahiro Yamamoto and Hiroyasu Kudo who continued to play even though they were quite elderly.
43Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:48:13.72ID:6SrO2WMG0
If it were me, I’d take Tanaka Masahiro and have him play with Sakamoto Hayato!
Abe: “An old man and a nuisance.”
44Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:48:14.04ID:3jjwt/Ot0
We don’t need legends who can’t pitch.
45Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:48:19.62ID:W2WmGCyv0
Looking at this, it seems Matsuzaka was well taken care of.
93Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:54:55.23ID:CyiTbaPf0
>>45
Matsuzaka doesn’t like people who bully their juniors,
so he was loved by them and would give them gifts.
48Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:48:43.56ID:zwBcWS+F0
There’s a problem with both ability and personality.
50Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:48:50.01ID:3IH8p0EG0
The legend is over.
57Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:50:04.68ID:ah4Em5mA0
It’s the ability that makes it so appealing, you idiot. It’s the same in the majors.
60Anonymous @I’m sorry.Dec. 15, 2024 (Sun) 10:50:32.19ID:1apTwtcz0
In fact, Japan is the only country that can survive on its past glory alone…
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Other languages: 【野球】中畑清氏、「サンモニ」で田中将大「自由契約」に憤慨「日本の野球はレジェンドを大事にしない体質があるのか」, [Béisbol] Kiyoshi Nakahata está enojado por el ”contrato gratuito” de Masahiro Tanaka en San Moni y dice: ”¿Tiene el béisbol japonés una tendencia a no valorar a las leyendas?”

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