“Working at a cafe” – Cafes cry out in distress over the problem of people “staying too long” over a cup of coffee – the sad reality that “80% of people are cafe workers”

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0001Mr.Shoko★.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 20:57:50.19ID:6ZnB2UcK9
“Working at a cafe” Shops scream over “overstaying” over a cup of coffee – the sad reality of “80% of cafe workers” | aera dot.
2024/09/24/ 16:00 Ayumu Koyama
Table of Contents
Page 1
– “Get out of the way” – “10 hours for a cup of coffee and cake”
Page 2
– Half a day for a cup of coffee… Cafes struggle with turnover
– Should we raise prices or set time limits?
Page 3
– 80% of stores are cafe workers
– “This place was a bad location”
It’s no longer unusual for people to work in cafes. The number of cafes equipped with power outlets is also increasing. Although the COVID-19 pandemic has ended and the number of customers should have increased, the number of cafes going bankrupt in 2023 reached a record high. Is it okay to work in a cafe? [Actual photo] Cafe workers “occupy”… The cafe screams at people for staying too long for a cup of coffee, and signs are also posted
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“Get out of here” – they click their tongues
A small cafe in Tokyo on a certain day in September. I can hear the hectic sound of keyboard tapping. “On days when I work remotely, I can’t concentrate at home, so I go to a cafe,” said a 28-year-old man who works for an IT company and was working on a computer. “When I’m at the office, I’m asked to do odd jobs and end up not being able to do my own work. At a café, you can concentrate just the right amount, and once you’ve ordered a cup of coffee, you can stay there forever.”
A cup of coffee at this shop costs 420 yen. He said he spent about four hours at the cafe. However, he feels out of place. One time, he was working at a Starbucks in Shibuya for about two hours when “a lot of people glared at him.” Some young people who seemed to be looking for a seat clicked their tongues and told us to move quickly. Since then, he says, “I try to choose cafes in places where there are as few people as possible,” but even in this case, “I didn’t get direct permission from the staff.” 10 hours for a cup of coffee and a cake
Workers and students alike feel the “strong winds” in cafes. A post on x in June this year stating that “studying in cafes is facing strong opposition” became a hot topic, garnering 13,000 likes to date. Web designer Kumi Watanabe (40) is also a heavy cafe worker. On average, they stay at the same cafe for 3 to 4 hours, but sometimes they stay for more than 10 hours. “I can’t come up with any ideas if I stay at home, so I do it outside.”

Do you feel guilty after being out there for more than 10 hours?
“I feel a little guilty, so sometimes I add a cake. However, if you add a cup of coffee for 500 yen and a cake, the total comes to less than 1,000 yen. This creates an environment where I can concentrate, so I can’t quit.”
A source from a magazine specializing in restaurant management points out the change in demand for cafes. At one cafe, 80% of the employees became cafe workers. Regular customers who came for coffee said they felt uncomfortable staying there = September 2012, photo by Koyama Ayumu
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「カフェでお仕事」コーヒー1杯で“長居”問題に店が悲鳴 「8割がカフェワーカー」の切ない現実 [少考さん★]
「カフェでお仕事」コーヒー1杯で“長居”問題に店が悲鳴 「8割がカフェワーカー」の切ない現実 | AERA dot. (アエラドット) | AERA dot. (アエラドット)
カフェで仕事をする人はすっかり珍しくなくなった。電源完備のカフェも増えた。コロナ禍は明け、利用者は増えたはずなのに、2023年はカフェの倒産数が過去最多を更新した。カフェで仕事は、ありかなしか。
「カフェでお仕事」コーヒー1杯で“長居”問題に店が悲鳴 「8割がカフェワーカー」の切ない現実 | AERA dot. (アエラドット)
カフェで仕事をする人はすっかり珍しくなくなった。電源完備のカフェも増えた。コロナ禍は明け、利用者は増えたはずなのに、2023年はカフェの倒産数が過去最多を更新した。カフェで仕事は、ありかなしか。
写真・図版(1枚目)| 「カフェでお仕事」コーヒー1杯で“長居”問題に店が悲鳴 「8割がカフェワーカー」の切ない現実 | AERA dot. (アエラドット)
カフェで仕事をする人はすっかり珍しくなくなった。電源完備のカフェも増えた。コロナ禍は明け、利用者は増えたはずなのに、2023年はカフェの倒産数が過去最多を更新した。カフェで仕事は、ありかなしか。
0006Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 20:58:52.84ID:Tv+oSchS0(1/4)
>>1
I was surprised to see people from Osaka eating takoyaki they brought with them to Starbucks.
0004Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 20:58:38.57ID:PhZ/Bg2d0(1/2)
No, study at home.
0007Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 20:59:00.51ID:XB2ysasG0
That’s definitely unreasonable.
0008Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 20:59:11.25ID:OzQdTLSE0
Will the ramen shop owner respond with excitement?
lol.
0009Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 20:59:21.10ID:0HdZTvkv0(1/17)
A common sight in cafes and family restaurants: a group of people talking about pyramid schemes, religion, insurance, and questionable investments.
0010Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 20:59:56.48ID:0HdZTvkv0(2/17)
I’d like to work as a cafe worker at a ramen shop.
0011Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:00:01.59ID:clcH7DYX0(1/11)
Other than that, cafes aren’t worth anything lol.
0012Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:00:03.32ID:B+ESiX9j0
Beggars who are messing around with their PCs are allowed to leave the store.
0013Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:00:45.97ID:BOTRQTBZ0(1/5)
Why would you work in such a noisy place? It’s just for the sake of appearance.
0014Anonymous recruiting.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:00:56.03ID:+B2Idoz30
Stores like this should raise their prices.
0015Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:01:17.53ID:8VugmNnu0(1/3)
The cafe is not profitable.
0016Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:01:21.24ID:EC8Q9n450
Just turn off the wifi.
0017Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:01:31.06ID:H0RHg0Ln0(1/21)
Charge for the appetizer, and if that’s not possible, then just do take-out.
0018Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:01:36.67ID:RAx4/ob10(1/6)
I don’t understand the nerve of people to stay there for a short time just to order a cup of coffee. It’s the same with other restaurants, but if there’s nothing left to eat or drink, I feel bad and leave.
0019Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:01:44.40ID:AtD6etJd0
I do it in the spacious rest area of ​​a super public bath. If you lose concentration, you can refresh yourself by taking a bath, so I recommend it.
0117Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:14:41.59ID:6h+871JE0
>>19
There are places like Raku Spa that offer weekday daytime plans for 1000 yen, so go there.
0020Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:01:44.44ID:DyK0aGtu0
Clack, clack, bang!!!
0021Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:01:46.03ID:mzqCgtcZ0
Let’s get a job at a sushi restaurant.
0022Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:01:56.84ID:5Fs4NskY0
Let’s have a 30-minute shift system.
0023Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:01:58.43ID:KFDhZuuu0
It would be best to line up the chairs so that the space is narrow enough that you can’t even place a PC there.
0024Security Guard [lv.29].Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:02:03.89ID:r6VKt8Fd0
All they have to do is charge for anything over an hour. The problem is that the rule is to let people stay as long as they like.
0025Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:02:03.93ID:T6+8/SYu0(1/3)
I’d like it to be time-based.
0027Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:02:14.00ID:PhZ/Bg2d0(2/2)
People who work at Starbucks have to close their laptops and take their belongings and glasses to the bathroom when they need to pee, and when they come back they put the glasses on the table to show they’re a private customer. Isn’t that inefficient?
0039Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:04:20.34ID:lcmYiD280(1/6)
>>27 Maybe some people leave their computers there just for a little while. It’s possible because Japan has good public safety, but if the computer gets stolen, customer information and other things would be leaked everywhere.
0028Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:02:17.71ID:V7sxEmbW0(1/2)
If it’s banned, who will come?
0037Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:04:00.72ID:clcH7DYX0(2/11)
>>28
This is it lol. It will collapse immediately.
0030Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:02:47.92ID:H0RHg0Ln0(2/21)
Start over as a stand-up coffee shop.
0031Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:02:55.46ID:RqTRLjb70
This is no longer the time to rely on morals.
0032Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:03:08.37ID:Xm6pLsJd0
Whenever I want to take a break it’s always full, so I’m in favor of the hourly rate.
0033Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:03:25.37ID:jdz/xTZh0(1/5)
I can’t go to a cafe because it’s expensive, but there are a lot of gig workers who can afford it.
0089Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:11:15.34ID:lcmYiD280(2/6)
>>33 In some places, teleworking is still the norm

I think people want a place where they can work cheaply to save on utility bills, such as air conditioning at home, and to avoid accidentally watching TV or taking naps
There are people who steal toilet paper from commercial facilities, so stingy people are stingy to the max.

0034Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:03:37.84ID:NkWS3C090
Just go to a karaoke box.
0035Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:03:43.37ID:sYMekjIo0
poverty.
0036Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:03:52.44ID:7HDoAYAi0(1/2)
Old writers and self-help books often brag about working in cafes, so what is their actual work efficiency like?
0038Security guard [lv.33].Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:04:11.65ID:OfZab1Qh0
The problem can be solved by banning PCs.
0040Security Guard [lv.4] [Sprout].Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:04:20.90ID:kLWZmwL20
10 hours for 1000 yen (´・ω・`).
0041Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:04:22.28ID:I+P2DtuK0
I don’t understand the point of going out of your way to show off that you’re working in such a crowded place.
0042Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:04:30.67ID:1wW9gs0c0
“Excuse me, I’d like to charge my phone. Can I borrow an outlet?”
0043Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:04:36.90ID:ZtXBmV/E0
Tokyo residents live in rabbit hutches, so they probably hate working remotely from home.
0046Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:04:44.18ID:T6+8/SYu0(2/3)
Those poor creatures must have really no choice because their rooms are so miserable.
0048Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:05:10.80ID:F4x5jZSU0
It’s too much for me, as I feel guilty after just one cup of coffee and an hour of reading.
0066Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:07:59.03ID:eR3U5rBo0(1/3)
>>48
I don’t think you should stay long enough to feel guilty, but common sense would dictate that an hour is the limit for staying for just one cup of coffee.
0056Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:06:45.68ID:jdz/xTZh0(2/5)
For now, why not just go and take orders every 30 minutes?
If you don’t get your order, go back 15 minutes later.
0059Anonymous Donburako.Sep. 24, 2024 (Tue) 21:07:12.69ID:eiHwo5q50
They should charge by the hour like internet cafes.
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